There is no need to invade Taiwan

[syed putra]

When will lawrence and takaichi go meet Xi?

 

[eatshitndie]

if tw reunifies with tiongcock, kmt leader will be asked to lead tw but must becum a ccp politburo member running tw like a province or sez. kmt will disappear in tw and becum kan-ma-te. 姦媽的。

 

[superpower]

 

[404]

The Iran War Opened a Window — And China Is Moving & Building A Strategic Bridge To Taiwan
Zhang visit coincides simultaneously with the US delegate visit to Taiwan
Purpose of the visit, 1) The goal is to establish that the KMT, despite being an opposition party, can serve as a legitimate political voice for Taiwan in Cross-Strait dialogues. By utilizing a second parallel channel for negotiation, this approach explores whether parties other than the ruling administration can effectively represent national interests in such discussions.
2) The opposition party is leveraging its majority in the House to block a NT$1.2 trillion defense budget, leading to a legislative deadlock. Zhang has asserted that Taiwan is not an "ATM," insisting on limiting the defense budget to only NT$380 billion for arm purchasing from the US instead
3) Beijing has demonstrated a non-military path to Taiwan, one that runs directly through the opposition party.

 

[syed putra]

if tw reunifies with tiongcock, kmt leader will be asked to lead tw but must becum a ccp politburo member running tw like a province or sez. kmt will disappear in tw and becum kan-ma-te. 姦媽的。

It can work both ways. KMT may spread its wings onto the mainland.
Whatever it is, must be done rationally and peacefully. No need to get overly excited and destroy a country due to difference of ideology.

 

[eatshitndie]

It can work both ways. KMT may spread its wings onto the mainland.
Whatever it is, must be done rationally and peacefully. No need to get overly excited and destroy a country due to difference of ideology.

ccp will never relinquish power without murdering and obliterating any opponent or alternate ideology. just look at the internal strife going on in ccp. they imprison for life bo xilai, assassinate their ex pm li keqiang, obliterate their top generals, etc. kmt will becum like falungong, kena persecuted and sexecuted until all are sexterminated.

 

[jsctan]

Nonsense. The current system allowed to continue.
Hong kong wanted independence. Or parts of it. UK never gave them democracy. Suddenly Under Chinese rule, wants democracy. Dumb ass.

I see nothing wrong with HKgers wanting democracy and Independence over Communism. UK never gave them democracy, but they gave them prosperity and opportunities. SG is lucky, got our independent. Of course, UK if possible to give them independence like SG got from Sultan but UK kept their agreement to return. Did Russia return to China 海参威taken after wwii?

 

[404]

if tw reunifies with tiongcock, kmt leader will be asked to lead tw but must becum a ccp politburo member running tw like a province or sez. kmt will disappear in tw and becum kan-ma-te. 姦媽的。

Can take the Hong Kong as a sexample, it did not immediately become a CCP-administered region; instead, it preserved many British-style institutions for a 50-year period, although significant structural changes were implemented to shift control to the CCP. Taiwan maybe allowed to take more than 50 years to make the structural changes to take its present system to the CCP or may remains as it is with minimum changes, nobody knows

 

[jsctan]

CCP more trustworthy than freaking US.

And I have got bad news for you. CCP is the less trustworthy together with Russia as ppl have no mean to change a greedy or evil leader when it happens.
But US citizens can.

 

[syed putra]

Can take the Hong Kong as a sexample, it did not immediately become a CCP-administered region; instead, it preserved many British-style institutions for a 50-year period, although significant structural changes were implemented to shift control to the CCP. Taiwan maybe allowed to take more than 50 years to make the structural changes to take its present system to the CCP or may remains as it is with minimum changes, nobody knows

CCP will Never flourish in taiwan after reunification.
Macao is a better gauge on China's commitment as the west did not instigate the masses to revolt like they tried in hong kong.

 

[syed putra]

ccp will never relinquish power without murdering and obliterating any opponent or alternate ideology. just look at the internal strife going on in ccp. they imprison for life bo xilai, assassinate their ex pm li keqiang, obliterate their top generals, etc. kmt will becum like falungong, kena persecuted and sexecuted until all are sexterminated.

By right, i believe, Bo Xilai would have been a excellent leadership choice but communists xi jinping sabotaged his ascendency and took the post instead. If xi jinping had followed the rule, he should have given way to new leaders by now as since he took Over, China's economy slowed down by a lot.

 

[eatshitndie]

Can take the Hong Kong as a sexample, it did not immediately become a CCP-administered region; instead, it preserved many British-style institutions for a 50-year period, although significant structural changes were implemented to shift control to the CCP. Taiwan maybe allowed to take more than 50 years to make the structural changes to take its present system to the CCP or may remains as it is with minimum changes, nobody knows

aiyah. 50 years 100 years ccp can always renege and change after takeover. barely 26.9 years into 50 years ccp has already change the hk framework. don’t be daft and naive. hk as a british “preserved institution” is practically gone with changes to its security and domestic laws. that freehold mansion sitting on victoria will not be freehold anymore.

 

[syed putra]

And I have got bad news for you. CCP is the less trustworthy together with Russia as ppl have no mean to change a greedy or evil leader when it happens.
But US citizens can.

US citizens see different faces after elections but they have no control over the few that controls the country. What was promised before elections are blatantly ignored. International agreements and deeds broken unilaterally. No discussions.
CCP before xi jinping spoiled it members elected their leaders.
And russia hold elections too. Putin wins no matter what. If you are Russian , would you want to risk voting for somebody else? Russia's experiment with democracy nearly broke the nation, which was what the west wanted

 

[syed putra]

aiyah. 50 years 100 years ccp can always renege and change after takeover. barely 26.9 years into 50 years ccp has already change the hk framework. don’t be daft and naive. hk as a british “preserved institution” is practically gone with changes to its security and domestic laws. that freehold mansion sitting on victoria will not be freehold anymore.

I believe property laws will not be touched by ccp. Security laws were needed to keep the peace. Same as in the west. If i say i support hamas, straight to Guantanamo i go.

 

[eatshitndie]

I believe property laws will not be touched by ccp. Security laws were needed to keep the peace. Same as in the west. If i say i support hamas, straight to Guantanamo i go.

no such thing as “freehold” land in ccp laws and principles. all lands belong to the state. if the court in hk cannot protect a freehold land owner from being falsely imprisoned and land confiscated by security concerns via new security law who can argue? i think you lack depth and cunning in game theory.

 

[jsctan]

US citizens see different faces after elections but they have no control over the few that controls the country. What was promised before elections are blatantly ignored. International agreements and deeds broken unilaterally. No discussions.
CCP before xi jinping spoiled it members elected their leaders.
And russia hold elections too. Putin wins no matter what. If you are Russian , would you want to risk voting for somebody else? Russia's experiment with democracy nearly broke the nation, which was what the west wanted

Well, at least you the people have the chance to continue to change. Can the people in China and Russia change the greedy leaders?


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50097221
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Ziyang

Speech to students​

Shortly before 5 am on 19 May, Zhao appeared in Tiananmen Square and wandered among the crowd of protesters. Using a megaphone, he delivered a now-famous speech to the students gathered at the square. It was first broadcast through China Central Television nationwide, and reported on by the Xinhua News Agency.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Ziyang#cite_note-43"><span>[</span>42<span>]</span></a> Below is a translated version:

Students, we came too late. We are sorry. You talk about us, criticize us, it is all necessary. The reason that I came here is not to ask for your forgiveness. What I want to say is that you are all getting weak, it has been seven days since you went on a hunger strike, you can't continue like this. As time goes on, your body will be damaged beyond repair, it could be very life-threatening. Now the most important thing is to end this strike. I know, your hunger strike is to hope that the Party and the government will give you a satisfying answer. I feel that our communication is open. Some of these problems can only be solved through certain procedures. For example, you have mentioned the nature of the incident, the question of responsibility; I feel that those problems can be resolved eventually, we can reach a mutual agreement in the end. However, you should also know that the situation is very complicated, it is going to be a long process. You can't continue the hunger strike longer than seven days, and still insist on receiving a satisfying answer before ending the hunger strike.

You are still young, we are old, you must live healthy, and see the day when China accomplishes the Four Modernizations. Unlike you, we are already old, and do not matter. It is not easy for this nation and your parents to support your college studies. Now you are all about 20, and about to sacrifice your lives so easily. Students, can't you think rationally? Now the situation is very serious, you all know, the Party and the nation is very anxious, and our society is very worried. Besides, Beijing is the capital, the situation is getting worse and worse everywhere, this cannot continue. Students, you all have good will, and are for the good of our nation, but if this situation continues, loses control, it will have serious consequences elsewhere.

In conclusion, I have only one wish. If you stop this hunger strike, the government won't close the door for dialogue, never! The questions that you have raised, we can continue to discuss. Although it is a little slow, we are reaching some agreement on some problems. Today I just want to see the students, and express our feelings. I hope students could think about these issues calmly. This situation cannot be sorted out clearly under illogical circumstances. You all have that strength, you are young, after all. We were also young once, we protested, laid our bodies on the rail tracks; we never thought about what will happen in the future back then. Finally, I beg the students, once again, to think about the future calmly. There are many things that can be solved. I hope that you will all end the hunger strike soon, thank you.

— Zhao Ziyang<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Ziyang#cite_note-44"><span>[</span>43<span>]</span></a>
After a bow, people began to applaud and some students burst into tears. That was Zhao's last public appearance, for Zhao had been ousted by party elders just before coming to the square.



I also heard the interview with Alexei on BBC before he died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Navalny

 

[superpower]

aiyah. 50 years 100 years ccp can always renege and change after takeover. barely 26.9 years into 50 years ccp has already change the hk framework. don’t be daft and naive. hk as a british “preserved institution” is practically gone with changes to its security and domestic laws. that freehold mansion sitting on victoria will not be freehold anymore.

Please lah. Your crystal ball tells you the CCP will still be around in 50-100 years' time? China will still be around for sure, but how the political system will morph in 4-5 generations is just all guesswork. Xi won't even survive the next 10 years as he's already 72.

We can only hope for a peaceful solution to the Taiwan problem in the short and medium term. In a way Ukraine and Iran are an eye-opener to Taiwanese agitating for independence under Western instigation. I daresay the majority of Taiwanese today don't want independence; most opt for status quo or reunification under terms acceptable to them.

 

[404]

Just take the recent sexample, approximately 93 Taiwanese citizens who were stranded in the Gulf and Turkey due to flight cancellations were facilitated in their return to Taiwan by the Chinese government, according to reports.

 

[eatshitndie]

Please lah. Your crystal ball tells you the CCP will still be around in 50-100 years' time? China will still be around for sure, but how the political system will morph in 4-5 generations is just all guesswork. Xi won't even survive the next 10 years as he's already 72.

We can only hope for a peaceful solution to the Taiwan problem in the short and medium term. In a way Ukraine and Iran are an eye-opener to Taiwanese agitating for independence under Western instigation. I daresay the majority of Taiwanese today don't want independence; most opt for status quo or reunification under terms acceptable to them.

ccp as a political institution will survive like a 6.9-headed hydra. no matter how many heads are chopped new heads will arise. xi dies, yi assumes power, zi stages a coup and takes over. you can change the facade but you can never change the evil immortal heart deep in its carcass. russia for sexample. a “soft” leader gorbachev helped usher perestroika and the fall of berlin wall, a lousy yeltzin took over and everything went south including dissolution of the ussr, and now putin is running it like the ussr. the ussr is never dead, just a change of name. same with cccp and ccp. the moment tiongcock is democratic like the west there will be violent civil war. tiongcock can never be united with either a weakling or strongman without absolute power and ruthlessness. tiongs only kowtow to ruthless power and limitless wealth. good workers horrible bosses. such is the chinese fate.

 

[syed putra]

ccp as a political institution will survive like a 6.9-headed hydra. no matter how many heads are chopped new heads will arise. xi dies, yi assumes power, zi stages a coup and takes over. you can change the facade but you can never change the evil immortal heart deep in its carcass. russia for sexample. a “soft” leader gorbachev helped usher perestroika and the fall of berlin wall, a lousy yeltzin took over and everything went south including dissolution of the ussr, and now putin is running it like the ussr. the ussr is never dead, just a change of name. same with cccp and ccp. the moment tiongcock is democratic like the west there will be violent civil war. tiongcock can never be united with either a weakling or strongman without absolute power and ruthlessness. tiongs only kowtow to ruthless power and limitless wealth. good workers horrible bosses. such is the chinese fate.

It is not so bad to live under ccp rule. Before Xi, it was free market mayhem, pollution, wastage. Lots of money leaving china.
Under Xi, clean air, cheap power, dominate in renewable. Challenge US in AI and semiconductor and.... Just like iran, only retaliate against US provocation.