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Chitchat The winds of war is blowing: Trump to recall 1000 combat pilots to active service!

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Air Force could recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to address serious shortage

WASHINGTON — President Trump signed an executive order Friday allowing the Air Force to recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to active duty to address a shortage in combat fliers, the White House and Pentagon announced.

By law, only 25 retired officers can be brought back to serve in any one branch. Trump's order removes those caps by expanding a state of national emergency declared by President George W. Bush after 9/11, signaling what could be a significant escalation in the 16-year-old global war on terror.

"We anticipate that the Secretary of Defense will delegate the authority to the Secretary of the Air Force to recall up to 1,000 retired pilots for up to three years," Navy Cdr. Gary Ross, a Pentagon spokesman, said in a statement.

But the executive order itself is not specific to the Air Force, and could conceivably be used in the future to call up more officers and in other branches.
 

tanwahtiu

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This time US hv to fight alone w NK.

French cap angmoh tulan trump and stay away. Only BE colonial shitskins allied to join US.

Great ww3 to watch BE fight NK China and Russia.

Hoot ah! Extinct US.
 

congo9

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This time US hv to fight alone w NK.

French cap angmoh tulan trump and stay away. Only BE colonial shitskins allied to join US.

Great ww3 to watch BE fight NK China and Russia.

Hoot ah! Extinct US.

Won't it be better for USA to arm the Japanese and Korean to the teeth. Take out NK and take over North Korea. Install a fake Emporer and run the show.

Then take out China little by little. First thing first, the SCS... island chain around it. Enforce a no fly zone for ship and aeroplane.

Plot the downfall of Yuan..
 

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The best President EVER I love you President Trump you are fantastic!
 

我戳你个妈

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It is a sad simple fact.

USA is loser out-going superpower, it's military advantages diminished and hostile superpowers plus small enemies, e.g. NK & ISIS are gaining advantages. Therefore the US military personnel QUITED with Low Morality, Low Security Confidence, Low Esteem and Dissatisfaction. Most importantly also they are in fear of own deaths and HATRED against own government and President / Commander In Chief.

USAF are at weakest disadvantage after losing the strategic game of Stealth Warfare. Their past air superiority is history, they are dead-meat and sitting ducks for cheap enemies missiles and can be killed easily by poorly trained militants and 3rd world troops or rebels. They fled their jobs for their lives, they also try to kill their own president or plot or desire to have him killed. Some of them defected to the enemies already.

Trump sent carrier to NK but the carrier headed for opposite direction instead and idiot Trump had no idea until many days later! That is what is going on! Disloyalty and Disobeying Commander In Chief, ineffective command and control, Mutiny. Trump can recall any attempt but he face only internal hostility and rising risk of American Civil War II. American warriors and civilians are so divided they want each others' blood, they want their president's blood, they are doing well for the jobs of their enemies.

Sad?
 

tanwahtiu

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Won't it be better for USA to arm the Japanese and Korean to the teeth. Take out NK and take over North Korea. Install a fake Emporer and run the show.

Then take out China little by little. First thing first, the SCS... island chain around it. Enforce a no fly zone for ship and aeroplane.

Plot the downfall of Yuan..

Japan are faking organism w angmoh pretend to be friend but inside hated angmoh.

They are waiting to nuke US soon. Japan will create fake flag w US and use NK to nuke US for sweet revenge.
 

我戳你个妈

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The fact now is only a small 3rd World NK declared war with USA. It is not Russia nor China which declared wanting to nuke USA. And Trump can not handle already. Whole Pentagon can not fix this already.

Be 1000% rest assured that if it was China or Russia declared war with USA and threaten to nuke them, whole USA is already a pile of nuke dust, and whoever hit USA won hands down.
 

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Won't it be better for USA to arm the Japanese and Korean to the teeth. Take out NK and take over North Korea. Install a fake Emporer and run the show.

Then take out China little by little. First thing first, the SCS... island chain around it. Enforce a no fly zone for ship and aeroplane.

Plot the downfall of Yuan..


Chinese will enforce a no-go zone in the Eastern Pacific and the USA carriers dare not move past Haiwaii.
And the Chinese will take the 2nd island chain as well to the first island chain which is already China in all but the name.
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US NAVY FEARS China's DF 21D missile WORLDS FASTEST ANTI SHIP MISSILE

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A Chinese DF-21D ASBM costs only $5 to $10.5 million. China can afford to build hundreds of them.

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China Successfully Tests 'Carrier Killer' Missile In The Gobi Desert.
That was in 2013. The missile will be even more lethal by now and in future


China's 'Carrier Killer' Missile Test
 
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USA can not handle not only NK, but many more as well. To begin with, is Iran, which will restart nuke program and test blast at any moment. Got all the missile test launches etc non-stop, and harass US Navy fleet non-stop.


Next are Talibans, Al Qaeda, ISIS.

Next are Cuba, Venezuela, etc

https://www.thetrumpet.com/5381-the-hidden-enemy-in-americas-backyard


The Hidden Enemy in America’s Backyard
Have you noticed? Headlines emerging from South America signal a potential threat to the U.S. greater than Islamism and communism combined.
By Andrew Miiller

From the September 2008 Trumpet Print Edition
South America is turning its back on the United States.

This is a far greater potential threat to the U.S. than most people would imagine. To understand why requires a clear-eyed look not only at the remarkable shifts in trade relationships appearing in today’s headlines, but also some unsavory facts of history that some have tried to bury. You need this understanding.

Brazil is driving the creation of an economic, political and military union that threatens to exclude the U.S. from military planning in the vast region spanning from Antarctica to Panama. Should it come to fruition, this project would represent the final undoing of a fracturing relationship the United States worked almost 200 years to build.

On May 23, leaders from the 12 sovereign nations of South America met in the Brazilian capital and signed the constituent treaty outlining the legal framework of the Union of South American Nations (unasur). This plan would establish an EU-style government for South America. It would unite the continent’s two major trade blocs—Mercosur and the Andean Community—and create a federal parliament based in Bolivia. A new South American Defense Council would mediate regional conflicts and defend the region from foreign interference.

“We are going to make it so that the strength of South America is born of the union of our peoples,” Brazilian Defense Minister Nelson Jobim said in April.

The treaty will come into full force after it is ratified by nine of its 12 would-be member states.

While there are definite obstacles to overcome, the political, economic and military integration of South America is bound to be far smoother than the rocky road the European Union has traveled for the past 51 years. It is the only multinational continent in the world united by a common linguistic background, a common culture, and a common religion. Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez’s exclamation that “From Mexico to Argentina, we are one whole nation” is an overstatement, but it definitely holds a kernel of truth.

This region is being united by more than just religion, culture and money, however. It is also being united by a dangerous ideology: anti-Americanism.

How Latin America Is Turning Red
One sentiment that emerged during the framing of unasur and the South American Defense Council was that the U.S. is in no way to be involved. “[T]here is no possibility of participation by the United States,” the Brazilian defense minister said, “because the council is South American and the U.S. is not in South America.”

The U.S. has been deeply entrenched in Latin American affairs since 1823, when President James Monroe established the Monroe Doctrine to keep European powers out of the New World. In pursuit of American interests, the U.S. has overthrown no fewer than 40 hostile Latin American governments in the 20th century alone. What many Americans view as a policy of protection and liberation, however, is now seen in Latin America as rank imperialism.

The bbc, in an analysis titled “How the U.S. ‘lost’ Latin America,” summed up the situation this way: “If you were to color a map of anti-Americanism in Latin America, for nearly 50 years Fidel Castro’s Cuba has been the deepest red. Three of the most economically developed countries—Brazil, Chile and Argentina—are now in varying shades of left-of-center pink” (April 3, 2006). It went on to say that Venezuela and Bolivia could both now be considered deep red and that current conditions in Peru, Mexico and Nicaragua indicate they soon may become more anti-American. Colombia is the only country in the region that could be considered a U.S. ally.

U.S.-Venezuelan lawyer Eva Golinger, who has dedicated herself to exposing U.S. intervention in Venezuela, claims the United States has literally lost control of the region. “The backyard of the U.S. has gone,” she says. “It’s created its own neighborhood, and the U.S. isn’t part of it” (Green Left Weekly, May 21).

Former Nicaraguan President Violeta Chamorro contemptuously contends that while U.S. politicians can always seem to find the money to sponsor wars in Latin America, they rarely seem to come up with enough funds for peacetime developments. She claims that even a slice of the money used to back anti-Communist Contra guerrillas in her country would be enough to build a whole new Nicaragua.

South America’s Rising Star
If peacetime investment levels are any indication, however, Germany and its EU allies should be Latin America’s best friends. Even though the European trade bloc is still only Latin America’s second-greatest trade partner (behind the United States), it is definitely Latin America’s greatest investor and its primary donor of developmental aid.

As anti-Americanism increases, Europe is becoming the rising star south of the Rio Grande.

German trade alone across the entire Latin American region had already risen to a value of $55 billion as of last year—making Germany Latin America’s largest trade partner in the EU. Germany has sold 340 of its tanks to the Chilean military over the past 12 years. Industrial giants like ThyssenKrupp AG have been investing in Latin America since 1837. Now ThyssenKrupp is developing a huge, $4.6 billion steel-producing complex in Brazil, intended to supply steel products to both Germany and South American countries. A full 10 percent of Brazil’s industrial gross domestic product is already produced by German daughter companies throughout the nation.

Granted, Germany’s relationship with Venezuela is still pretty rocky at times. Nevertheless, high levels of economic investment, developmental aid and arms exports are forging a strategic partnership between the EU—particularly Germany—and most of Latin America.

This relationship is not completely one-sided by any means, because Latin America is far more important to Europe as a raw materials base than as a simple trade partner. The entire region from the Rio Grande to Terra del Fuego is a giant storehouse of timber, natural gas, crude oil, minerals, precious metals, and especially iron. These are resources Europe needs if it is to continue its ascension to superpower status.

So, what does the emergence of a unified, anti-American, European-oriented trade bloc mean for the world?

Virtual Colonies of a New Empire
Consider the following statement from the May 1962 Plain Truth:The United States is going to be left out in the cold as twogigantic trade blocs, Europe and Latin America, mesh together and begin calling the shots in world commerce. The United States is going to be literally besieged—economically—frozen out of world trade.”

With the U.S. having grown increasingly dependent on Latin America for goods, especially foodstuffs, it could find its supply of basic staples drastically impacted if the U.S. is frozen out of Latino markets. With American agriculture increasingly plagued by floods, fires, droughts, pests and disease—in addition to the loss of huge tracts of land to urban development and the squeezing of its farmers by excessive input costs—such an event would place the whole U.S. economy at risk of collapse.

Such a crisis would add to a host of other economic pressures, such as the ongoing dive of the dollar and American trade being hurt by restrictive EU regulations. Major creditor nations could pinch America’s already broken economy simply by demanding the U.S. begin paying its debts. In the end, a convergence of several factors could trigger economic meltdown in the U.S. and cause a domino effect across all nations that are significantly dollar-dependent.

Such a combination of events could well place the EU in the box seat. Countries across Latin America, and also to an extent Africa, would then have no option other than to completely rely for survival on the economic ties that a German-led EU is rapidly locking them into.

Either in name or in effect, the nations of Latin America would become virtual colonies of a European empire. It is as T.H. Tetens wrote in his book Germany Plots With the Kremlin, “South America will be conquered by business agents, not by guns.”

The Resurrection of a Secret Plan
Latin America’s growing integration and alliance with Europe at first appears to be the haphazard result of undirected forces. The shocking part, however, is that Germany has had a goal to control Latin America for at least a century.

It is well known that German Kaiser Wilhelm II had planned to use Mexico as a launchpad for an invasion of the U.S. if America entered World War I. It was the revelation of this plan in the Zimmerman Telegraph that finally prompted America to enter the war on the side of the Allies. What is not as well known, however, is that in addition to this proposed alliance with Mexico, the Germans also sought a strong presence in the southern part of South America. Shortly before hostilities broke out in World War I, Otto Tannenberg, the famous German general and propagandist, wrote that “Germany will take under its protection the republics of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay; furthermore, the southern third of Bolivia and the southern portion of Brazil” (Michael Sayers and Albert E. Kahn, The Plot Against the Peace, 1945).

The defeat of the German Empire in World War I brought a temporary halt to these plans. They were resumed, however, once the Nazis came to power.

Nazi propaganda minister Paul Joseph Goebbels wrote in the March 26, 1944, edition of his personal publication, Das Reich, that “Argentina will one day be at the head of a tariff union comprising the nations in the southern half of South America. Such a focus of opposition against the United States of America will, together with Bolivia, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay, form a powerful economic bloc; and eventually, by way of Peru, it will spread northward to place the dollar colony of Brazil in a difficult position.”

It is unsettling how close the situation today matches Goebbels’ prediction. South America is composed of two tariff unions that are about to merge into an economic and political alliance. Argentina may or may not be the head of this union, but it is certainly a major member, and the “dollar colony” of Brazil is already on board as the most dominant member of the forming Union of South American Nations. It won’t be long before this bloc is working under the protection of Germany as “a focus of opposition against the United States.”

How did this happen? Not overnight!

In 1996, the American government declassified a shocking World War II intelligence document relating the details of a secret Nazi meeting of industrialists that took place on Aug. 10, 1944, in Strasbourg, France. The Nazis’ purpose was to instruct German industrialists how to conduct “a postwar commercial campaign” to finance the Nazi Party, “which would be forced to go underground,” thus ensuring that “a strong German Empire [could] be created after the defeat.” These industrialists were specifically told to strengthen Germany “through their exports” and to “make contacts and alliances with foreign firms.” Many of the corporations represented at this meeting, such as Krupp and Volkswagenwerk, chose Latin America as their site of foreign investment. (We have reprinted this document in our free booklet The Rising Beast. Request a free copy.)

Alfried Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach was the chairman of the board of directors of ThyssenKrupp’s predecessor organization, Fried Krupp AG, from 1943 until his death in 1968. He was the man in charge of producing weapons for the Third Reich during the latter half of World War II. Possibly more than any other man of his era, he understood that economic relations could be a precursor to political conquest. He once said his corporation would reverse the old adage that trade follows the flag: In a postwar German Reich, the flag would follow trade.

After Krupp was convicted for war crimes at Nuremberg in 1947, the Allies released him from prison in 1951 and let him resume sole proprietorship of Fried Krupp AG (the predecessor of ThyssenKrupp AG) in 1953. Loyal to the instructions his representative received from Nazi officials at the Strasbourg meeting in 1944, Alfried immediately went to work creating new export markets in Eastern Europe, Africa and Latin America (especially Brazil). Although he died in 1967, with his personal copy of Mein Kampf still on his nightstand, his corporation continued to follow the path he had set for it. The current leadership of ThyssenKrupp AG may or may not know much about its corporation’s past association with Nazism, but it is definitely still creating German ties to Latin America as it earmarks Brazil as its largest site of foreign investment.

It is also well known that many Nazi war criminals—such as Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele and Martin Bormann—fled to sympathetic governments in Latin America after World War II in order to escape prosecution. Even as late as 1962, Gunther Theodor—an agent of an international organization that was then trying to capture Bormann—told the Brazilian newspaper Correio da Manha that “Neo-Nazism is simply boiling over in South America, operating under the shield of the Communists.”

As the May 1962 Plain Truth further reported, “Germany’s economic conquest of South America has been in the planning for decades. Nazi agents, many of them disguised as ‘legitimate’ businessmen, were rampant throughout South America even before World War II.”

It has been estimated that enough Nazis escaped into Latin America via Vatican ratlines to establish an elite cadre big enough for another fascist regime complete with chiefs of state, cabinet ministers and military men.

Almost all of these Nazi agents have since died, but their children and successors are still working to strengthen the relationship between Latin American countries and the Fatherland. Everything is just a bit more sophisticated than it used to be. The racist political activists of yesterday have become the respectable businessmen and technocrats of today.

The Fascist Threat
It is easy to see that an anti-American, European-oriented political and economic union in Latin America presents a major economic threat to the U.S. Yet the threat is even greater than just that.

Henry A. Wallace was the 33rd vice president of the U.S., from 1941 to 1945. In an article he wrote for the New York Times in 1944 titled “The Danger of American Fascism,” he wrote, “The European brand of fascism will probably present its most serious postwar threat to us via Latin America. The effect of the war has been to raise the cost of living in most Latin American countries much faster than the wages of labor. The fascists in most Latin American countries tell the people that the reason their wages will not buy as much in the way of goods is because of Yankee imperialism. The fascists in Latin America learn to speak and act like natives. Our chemical and other manufacturing concerns are all too often ready to let the Germans have Latin American markets, provided the American companies can work out an arrangement which will enable them to charge high prices to the consumer inside the United States. Following this war, technology will have reached such a point that it will be possible for Germans, using South America as a base, to cause us much more difficulty in World War III than they did in World War II. The military and landowning cliques in many South American countries will find it attractive financially to work with German fascist concerns as well as expedient from the standpoint of temporary power politics.”

This is a chilling, yet very accurate assessment of what could happen if fascism were ever to gain a hold on Germany. As long as Angela Merkel (or someone like her) rules, America and the rest of the world appear to be under no great threat from an imperialistic Europe. If a second Adolf Hitler or a new Charlemagne were ever to come to power in Germany, however, the consequences would be devastating. German technology has reached such a point and German dominance over both Europe and Latin America has developed far enough that America would not be able to weather World War III as it did World War II.

With the help of hostile nations to America’s south, a new German Reich could reverse D-day and carry out a full-scale invasion of the United States, for example, by gathering in Mexico and swarming across the Rio Grande River.

Latin America in Prophecy
As shocking as this situation may sound, Goebbels and Wallace were not the first to recognize that Germany could use Latin America as a base against the U.S.

In the 17th and 18th chapters of the biblical book of Revelation, God labels the German-led, Vatican-influenced empire that is emerging in Europe as “Babylon the Great.” In the corresponding Old Testament prophecies of Isaiah 23 and Ezekiel 27, the same empire appears under the name of the most powerful trading center of the ancient Mediterranean world—Tyre.

A prophecy in Ezekiel 27:12 directed at the king of Tyre says, “Tarshish was thy merchant by reason of the multitude of all kind of riches; with silver, iron, tin, and lead, they traded in thy fairs.”

Anciently, the people of Tarshish lived in southern Spain. Today, these people have spread throughout Spain and its old colonies in Latin America.

It can be clearly seen then that the modern-day Latin Americans are prophesied to be a great trading people that provides a resource-hungry European empire with silver, iron, tin, lead and other goods. All these products are currently major exports of Latin America. As the July 1965 Plain Truth says of this verse, “Flowing across the Atlantic to feed the hungry furnaces of the Ruhr and the other industrial complexes of Europe will come the rich mineral wealth of Latin America.”

More is prophesied for this European empire than mere economic dominance. In Isaiah 10:5-6, God says Assyria (modern-day Germany) would be the rod of His anger used to punish the hypocritical nations of Israel (modern-day America, Britain and its dominions) and Judah (the Jewish state of Israel). This prophecy says the Germans will take Anglo-America’s spoil and will tread its people down into the mire of the streets. Such terminology indicates more than just a nuclear invasion; it indicates an invasion of foreign troops that can “tread” and “take.” (Request Germany and the Holy Roman Empire and The United States and Britain in Prophecy for proof of these national identities.)

It would be very plausible for this Germanic invasion force to exploit its alliance with Latin America and use that region as a launchpad into the U.S. The same overarching church that will be guiding Europe also heads the dominant religion throughout Latin America, and such a plan was already being considered in the time of the kaiser.

Washington is currently obsessed with the Islamic threat and, secondarily, those posed by Russia and China. The Bible is clear, however, that while radical Islam may be a painful thorn in America’s side and Asia a major economic competitor, the major threat to Anglo-Saxon nations is posed by a great power called “the king of the north.” Your Bible prophesies that only those who heed a trumpeted final warning to the Israelitish nations, and who repent of disobeying their God, will be protected from the coming onslaught from this European power.

These are sobering and terrifying predictions, but they are also signs of the best news anyone could ever hear. After this nuclear calamity, Jesus Christ will return to this Earth and set up a reign of peace, happiness and prosperity that will last for all eternity. For more information on this joyous reign of peace, request our free book Isaiah’s End-Time Vision.
 

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Putin is increasingly intolerant against USA:

http://news.sina.com.cn/w/sy/2017-10-21/doc-ifymzqpq2999918.shtml
普京批美国:给了你们铀 却用轰炸来报答我们

2017年10月21日02:04 湖北日报网
普京批美国:给了你们铀 却用轰炸来报答我们

  原标题:普京批美国:给了你们铀,却用轰炸来报答我们

  [观察者网综合报道]“给了你们铀,却用轰炸贝尔格莱德来报答我们”,据今日俄罗斯(RT)网站报道,俄罗斯总统普京19日公开批评美国在一系列国际裁军协议中未能信守承诺,其中包括《禁止化学武器公约》、《中导条约》等等。

  当日,普京在索契出席第十四届瓦尔代国际辩论俱乐部年会。普京表示,莫斯科不会退出现有的任何条约,但如果美国决定先退出,他承诺会做出对等回应。

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普京在瓦尔代国际辩论俱乐部年会上(图片来源:俄罗斯卫星网)
  据RT报道,在国际记者与俄罗斯专家云集的会场,普京回忆起1993年开始的美俄双方为削减战略核武器作出努力的“兆吨换兆瓦”(Megatons to Megawatts)计划。

  据了解,冷战结束后,美国和俄罗斯于1991年达成《削减战略武器条约》,并于1993年敲定运送浓缩铀的细节。按照协议,俄罗斯从2万个核弹头中提取浓缩铀,运往美国用于发电。

  普京19日表示,作为“历史上作出的最有效的裁军努力之一”,美国官员开始对俄罗斯最高机密设施访问高达170多次。

  “从俄方来讲,这是前所未有的开放与信任,”他说:“在上世纪90年代,约有100名美国官员有权对俄罗斯的核设施进行突击检查,这是戈尔巴乔夫与叶利钦时代所签署协议的一部分。”

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1999年,以美国为首的北约对南联盟进行轰炸
  普京表示,“我们得到的回报是众所周知的――(美国)完全无视我们的国家利益,支持高加索地区分离主义、绕过联合国安理会对南斯拉夫联盟实施轰炸,以及入侵伊拉克等等。美国一定是看到我们的核武器与经济状况,才决定无视国际法。”

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资料图(图片来源:俄罗斯卫星网)
  因俄罗斯被指控干预2016年美国总统大选,导致美俄两国关系几乎降至冰点。普京19日表示,华盛顿的敌对政策“正在让两国关系重返上世纪50年代”。不过他指出,在冷战期间,两个超级大国间至少还有更多的互相尊重。

  “我们不能积极参与某些国际条约,因为美国自己什么也没做,”普京以1993年《禁止化学武器公约》为例称。

  据RT报道,上个月,俄罗斯宣布销毁所有化学武器储备。普京指出,西方媒体却对此“决定保持沉默”,而美国则一直推迟自己的销毁计划,称最早于2023年完成。

  “我们都销毁了,然后我们的美国伙伴说,还没有,我们还没钱。”普京讽刺道:“所以他们有美元印钞机,但他们没钱。但另一方面,我们会这样做?”

  1972年,美苏签署《限制反弹道导弹系统条约》(即《反弹道导弹条约》,ABM),2001年911事件后,时任美国总统小布什宣布退出该条约,克里姆林宫一直对美国这一举动表示强烈反对。

  “该条约是战略武器领域整个国家安全框架的基石,但尽管我们花了数年时间试图说服我们的(美国)同事,依然于事无补。”普京19日说。

  另外,对于美俄于2010年签署的《新削减战略武器条约》(New START),美国总统特朗普则批评称这是奥巴马任期内的一笔糟糕的交易。

  条约规定双方均可拥有最多1550枚现役核弹头。“我们听说,另一方也不满意这份条约,”普京表示:“我们不会放弃该条约,也许在某些方面我们不满意,但总有妥协的成分,因此我们将履行我们的义务。”

  今年2月,因俄罗斯部署陆基地对地巡航导弹营,美方指责俄方此举违反《中导条约》(INF,即《美苏消除两国中程和中短程导弹条约》),随后美国国会议员还曾敦促特朗普退出1987年美苏两国签署的《中导条约》,该条约旨在限制双方的中程及中短程导弹能力。

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1987年,美国总统里根与前苏联领导人戈尔巴乔夫签署《中导条约》
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F35疑被古董级导弹击伤再遭质疑 外媒竟呼吁卖给中国
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资料图:美军F-35
  近日,有媒体报道,F-35的神话已被打破,以色列引进F-35首度在实战中受损,而这次击中F-35的并不是先进S-300和S-400防空导弹,而是一款S-200老古董级导弹。

  但有一件事很诡异的是,就在发生导弹事件几小时间之后,以色列媒体纷纷报道,以色列空军装备的F-35在训练时发生鸟击事件,据此事件隐瞒两周时间,至今才公开报道,但始终未公开这架F-35照片。

  据以色列媒体的说法,这架F-35经历“鸟击”事件后无法升空作战,但纳闷的是,此前曾有官方报道,这架F-35已通过“鸟击认证”,并且有关性能表现十分优异。据了解,有分析认为,鸟击的这架F-35或许就是被S-200击中的那架F-35。

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资料图:S-200远程导弹发射照片
  目前以色列装备的是F-35I,由洛克希德·马丁公司专门为以色列打造的型号,F-35I是由F-35A升级而来。事实上,F-35I在以色列空军心目中占有很高的地位,而且以色列人将F-35I命名为“Adir”,译过来就是“强大的”意思。

  而这次F-35被S-200击中,对于以色列是一个沉重打击。除此之外,在一周前澳大利亚的F-35机密资料被窃,但目前还无法确定会造成什么后果,不过,一旦这些资料被F-35作战对象获取,其后果可想而知。据推测,影响最大的可能是F-35出口订单降低。

  前不久,美国官方宣布首批F-35有致命设计缺陷,无法进行升级,被媒体指责为“飞不起来的铁鸟”。再加上资料被盗以及被导弹击中事件,F-35的未来前景堪忧。但是否能继承美国空军的未来辉煌,只有进行全面升级,而升级需要资金与技术来实现。

  然而,F-35升级离不开美国盟友的提供资金支持,目前只有日英两国将继续采购,而加拿大、意大利、澳大利亚等国都推迟了采购计划,甚至有很多美国盟友要集体退货。随着歼-20已正式列装以及有重大改进后的歼-31,F-35就更加不具备优势。

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资料图:歼20隐形战机
  有外媒分析认为,在这种情况下,美国应选择开放对中国出品F-35。但又担心中国会对F-35进行逆向工程。F-35机密资料已被窃走,如果出口也不会令美国有多大技术损失,因为中国早已掌握大部分相关技术。其实,出售F-35给中国也有助于扩大美国的市场规模。

  话说回来,即使F-35愿意出口中国,但中国愿不愿意买,还不一定。如今中国歼-20已正式列装,部分性能更是媲美或超越了F-22。F-35对于中国可借鉴性不大,如果是F-22可以考虑,但F-22是美军禁卖品。(作者署名:小飞猪观察)
 

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S-200 is from 1950's used in Korean & Vietnam wars to shoot USAF B-52 for example. But it already shot Israeli IDF F-35! Stealth? My Ass!

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ISRAEL IS HIDING THAT ITS STATE-OF-ART F-35 WARPLANE WAS HIT BY SYRIAN S-200 MISSILE – REPORTS
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    FILE IMAGE: Israeli Air Force F-35 warplanes

    It looks that the Israeli “demonstration of power” during the recent visit of Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has turned into a total failure.

    On October 16, Shoigu arrived Israel for meetings with Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The sides were reportedly set to discuss the situation in the region, including Syria, the fight against terrorism as well as military and technical cooperation.

    At the same day, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) claimed that its warplanes targeted a anti-aircraft battery of the Syrian Air Defense Forces that had launched a missile at Israeli aircraft flying over Lebanon.

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    Earlier today,an anti-aircraft missile was launched from Syria towards IDF aircraft during a routine flight over Lebanon. No hits confirmed


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Israel Hiding Its F-35 Warplane Hit By Syrian S-200 Missile?
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…from SouthFront

It looks that the Israeli “demonstration of power” during the recent visit of the Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has turned into a total failure.

On October 16, Shoigu arrived in Israel for meetings with Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The two sides discussed the situation in the region, including Syria, the fight against terrorism, military and technical cooperation.

On the same day, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) claimed that its warplanes targeted an anti-aircraft battery of the Syrian Air Defense Forces that had launched a missile at an Israeli aircraft flying over Lebanon.

“The army targeted the battery with four bombs and, according to the IDF, the battery was damaged to the extent that it was no longer operational. The army said that the battery targeted, was the same battery that fired at Israeli jets last March, prompting Israel to make use of its Arrow anti-missile system for the first time,” the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported on the issue.

The Syrian military confirmed the Israeli strikes and said that they caused “material damage.”

According to the Syrian Defense Ministry statement, Israeli warplanes violated Syria’s airspace on the border with Lebanon in Baalbek area. The incident took place at 8:51 am local time.

Could the Israeli Air Force be trying to intentionally provoke a reaction from the Syrian military in order to justify the strike on the Syrian air defense battery?

Some pro-Israeli experts and media activists immediately linked the incident with the visit of the Russian defense minister to Tel Aviv saying that it was a nice demonstration of power to the Russian-Iranian-Syrian alliance.

However, something went wrong.

According to the available information, the Syrian Defense Forces used a Soviet S-200 missile against the Israeli warplane. This Soviet-made missile is the most advanced long-range anti-aircraft system operated by the Syrian military. However, it’s old-fashioned in terms of the modern warfare.

Despite this, the Syrian Defense Ministry said in its statement that the air-defense forces “directly hit one of the jets, forcing [Israeli aircraft] to retreat.” This statement contradicts the Israeli claim that “no hit” was confirmed.

Few hours after the missile incident with Syria, the Israeli media reported that the Israeli Air Force’s F-35 stealth multirole fighter went unserviceable as a result of an alleged collision with a bird during a training flight.

The incident allegedly took place “two weeks ago” but was publicly reported only on October 16. Israeli sources were not able to show a photo of the F-35 warplane after the “bird collision”.

Furthermore, it is not clear if the F-35 can become operational again because its stealth coating was damaged. Thus, according to the Israeli version, the warplane went out of service after collision with a bird, despite the fact that the F-35 earlier passed the bird strike certification with great results.

The F-35 is the world’s most expensive warplane. The price of developing the F-35 is now about $406.5 billion. Israel pays about $100 million for each plane.

The question remains, what really damaged the F-35?
 

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Israel Is Hiding That Its State-Of-Art F-35 Warplane Was Hit By Syrian S-200 Missile – Reports



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Illustrative image: Israeli Air Force F-35 warplanes

It looks that the Israeli “demonstration of power” during the recent visit of Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has turned into a total failure.

On October 16, Shoigu arrived Israel for meetings with Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The sides were reportedly set to discuss the situation in the region, including Syria, the fight against terrorism as well as military and technical cooperation.

At the same day, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) claimed that its warplanes targeted an anti-aircraft battery of the Syrian Air Defense Forces that had launched a missile at Israeli aircraft flying over Lebanon.

In response, IDF aircraft targeted the anti-aircraft battery in Syria.

— IDF (@IDFSpokesperson) 16 October 2017

The IDF added that the Syrian missile didn’t hit any Israeli aircraft.

Earlier today,an anti-aircraft missile was launched from Syria towards IDF aircraft during a routine flight over Lebanon. No hits confirmed

— IDF (@IDFSpokesperson) 16 October 2017

“The army targeted the battery with four bombs and, according to the IDF, the battery was damaged to the extent it was no longer operational. The army said the battery targeted was the same that fired at Israeli jets last March, prompting Israel make use of its Arrow anti-missile system for the first time,” the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported on the issue.

The Syrian military confirmed the Israeli strikes and said that they caused “material damage.”

It’s interesting to note that, according to the Syrian Defense Ministry statement, Israeli warplanes violated Syria’s airspace on the border with Lebanon in Baalbek area. The incident took place at 8:51 am local time.

Could the Israeli Air Force intentionally provoke the reaction from the Syrian military in order to justify the strike on the Syrian air defense battery?

Furthermore, some pro-Israeli experts and media activists clearly linked the incident with the visit of the Russian defense minister to Tel Aviv saying that it was a nice demonstration of power to the Russian-Iranian-Syrian alliance.

However, something went wrong.

According to the available information, the Syrian Defense Forces used a S-200 missile against the Israeli warplane. This Soviet-made missile is the most advanced long range anti-aircraft system opearated by the Syrian military. Even in this case, it’s old-fashioned in terms of the modern warfare.

Despite this, the Syrian Defense Ministry said in its statement that government forces responded to the violation of the airspace and “directly hit one of the jets, forcing [Israeli aircraft] to retreat.” This statement contradicts to the Israeli claim that “no hit” was confirmed.

Few hours after the missile incident with Syria, the Israeli media reported that the Israeli Air Force’s F-35 stealth multirole fighter went unserviceable as a result of an alleged bird collision during a training flight.

The incident allegedly took place “two weeks ago” but was publicly reported only on October 16. However, Israeli sources were not able to show a photo of the F-35 warplane after the “bird collision”.

Furthermore, it is not clear if the F-35 can become operational again because its stealth coating was damaged. Thus, according to the Israeli version, the warplane reportedly became no longer operational after the bird collision despite the fact that the F-35 earlier passed the bird strike certification with great results (official info here). The F-35 is the world’s most expensive warplane. The price of developing the F-35 is now about $406.5 billion.

Israel is actively buying the world’s self-proclaimed most advanced fighter paying about $100 million for each plane.

So what did really hit the F-35?


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IDF claimed BIRD Strike Caused their F-35 damaged, but it was not a bird, but Syrian S-200 missiles!

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Israel Is Hiding That Its State-Of-Art F-35 Warplane Was Hit By Syrian S-200 Missile – Reports



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Illustrative image: Israeli Air Force F-35 warplanes

It looks that the Israeli “demonstration of power” during the recent visit of Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has turned into a total failure.

On October 16, Shoigu arrived Israel for meetings with Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The sides were reportedly set to discuss the situation in the region, including Syria, the fight against terrorism as well as military and technical cooperation.

At the same day, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) claimed that its warplanes targeted an anti-aircraft battery of the Syrian Air Defense Forces that had launched a missile at Israeli aircraft flying over Lebanon.

In response, IDF aircraft targeted the anti-aircraft battery in Syria.

— IDF (@IDFSpokesperson) 16 October 2017

The IDF added that the Syrian missile didn’t hit any Israeli aircraft.

Earlier today,an anti-aircraft missile was launched from Syria towards IDF aircraft during a routine flight over Lebanon. No hits confirmed

— IDF (@IDFSpokesperson) 16 October 2017

“The army targeted the battery with four bombs and, according to the IDF, the battery was damaged to the extent it was no longer operational. The army said the battery targeted was the same that fired at Israeli jets last March, prompting Israel make use of its Arrow anti-missile system for the first time,” the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported on the issue.

The Syrian military confirmed the Israeli strikes and said that they caused “material damage.”

It’s interesting to note that, according to the Syrian Defense Ministry statement, Israeli warplanes violated Syria’s airspace on the border with Lebanon in Baalbek area. The incident took place at 8:51 am local time.

Could the Israeli Air Force intentionally provoke the reaction from the Syrian military in order to justify the strike on the Syrian air defense battery?

Furthermore, some pro-Israeli experts and media activists clearly linked the incident with the visit of the Russian defense minister to Tel Aviv saying that it was a nice demonstration of power to the Russian-Iranian-Syrian alliance.

However, something went wrong.

According to the available information, the Syrian Defense Forces used a S-200 missile against the Israeli warplane. This Soviet-made missile is the most advanced long range anti-aircraft system opearated by the Syrian military. Even in this case, it’s old-fashioned in terms of the modern warfare.

Despite this, the Syrian Defense Ministry said in its statement that government forces responded to the violation of the airspace and “directly hit one of the jets, forcing [Israeli aircraft] to retreat.” This statement contradicts to the Israeli claim that “no hit” was confirmed.

Few hours after the missile incident with Syria, the Israeli media reported that the Israeli Air Force’s F-35 stealth multirole fighter went unserviceable as a result of an alleged bird collision during a training flight.

The incident allegedly took place “two weeks ago” but was publicly reported only on October 16. However, Israeli sources were not able to show a photo of the F-35 warplane after the “bird collision”.

Furthermore, it is not clear if the F-35 can become operational again because its stealth coating was damaged. Thus, according to the Israeli version, the warplane reportedly became no longer operational after the bird collision despite the fact that the F-35 earlier passed the bird strike certification with great results (official info here). The F-35 is the world’s most expensive warplane. The price of developing the F-35 is now about $406.5 billion.

Israel is actively buying the world’s self-proclaimed most advanced fighter paying about $100 million for each plane.

So what did really hit the F-35?


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And who was that that think AMDK?

Won't it be better for USA to arm the Japanese and Korean to the teeth. Take out NK and take over North Korea. Install a fake Emporer and run the show.

Then take out China little by little. First thing first, the SCS... island chain around it. Enforce a no fly zone for ship and aeroplane.

Plot the downfall of Yuan.
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F-35 taken out by a fucking kuching kurad S-200!!

ROTFFLMFAO!

And China already got quantum radar which can burn through all the stealth USA desperately trying to hide under.
And even without that, S-200 can down F35

China Claims It Developed "Quantum" Radar To See Stealth Planes
 
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