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The PAP's strategem and their Population Ponzi Scheme

Travellor

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The truth is that many businesses are aware that the economy is already headed for a tailspin. The PAP cleverly massaged the year end figures at the close of last year to windowdress as if the economy is in not in recession when in actual fact, it already had been like that since the second half of last year.

the dirty trick that the PAP of doing is to put up the population ponzi paper (especially in view of the bad timing and massive disadvantages it posed after the massive loss in the PE BE), is for 2 purposes

a. if they succeed in pushing through this traitorous shit, they succeed in getting sufficient FTa to be mportedi to vote them back into power. BTW who knows ......if these bastards can import another 500k new citizens we might have an early elections so that PAP can have more good years;

b. if they don't succeed in pushing through this ponzi scheme through parliament, they will turn around and say, there! you see? it is because of WP's objections and kpkb about this scheme thats why we abandoned it in accordance with your wishes and now the economy is in deep shit as a result.


the WP is clever in that regards because they did not go and oppose the whole plaq blindly, just part of the plan. the best way forward to take the sting ut of the ccb kiah PAP dirty tricks is this

a. agree to have some immigration but a very very gradual pace say only 500k more to 2030

b. agree that if the PAP wants to do so they better sort out the present infrastructure problems, the social problems, the traffic congestions, the overpriced properties and their unaffordability by the masses;

c. to attach conditions to this agreement such as plans to increase and improve the TFR of this country through social welfare and enhancements schemes - we are doing this for citizens only not for all and sundry. From free maternity and hospitalisation for citizen mothers to larger subsidies for childcare, maid levy waivers and better work life balance measures as 3 weeks annual paternity leave. these measures are long term measures so don't expect to see the fruits of these until at least 5 years.

d. a more citizens centred system of government. now that we have reached 5.5 million, its time to slow down and take stock. not rush off with a poorly worked out paper bullshitting the masses with bogeyman stories about economic tailspin,silver tsunami and corporate exodus etc etc all these things should have been known to the government of the day already s there is o excuse for them to be dragging all this out to scare the populace NOW!! One good start is to make sure that there is citizen job matching first before you allow any company to import a foreigner.

e. to use their so called National Wayang Conversation properly and seek the people's views on wdf they think as improvements to the quality of life that the people want to see. i mean really ask and not ask your CCB Grassroots PLP kiahs to sing your favourite PAP tunes. choose the top 5 most common requests and then implement it.

f. acknowledge that growth is NOT everything ....money does not buy us happiness,..... we were better off being not as rich but more together as a family of citizens....

if these stubborn bastards dont wanna listen or act for the best interest of the people, Kick these fuckers out!!

Remember this not all scholars makes the best politicians, just the best executioners and yes men. we need thinkers and people who desire the best for this country, not a bunch of bastard elitist pricks who have an entitlement syndrome and think they should get more money for having studied harder and being smarter than everyone else...
 
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Satyr

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I am wondering why Singaporeans have so much trust in government. In many countries it is regarded as a necessary evil. The first priority of any party in power is to stay in power. Any party will use incumbency to achieve that. The WP will do so if they ever form the government. The only safeguard is a vigilant population and a habit of scepticism. Singaporeans have a habit of dumping on people who have been championing their rights. They deserve what they get.
 

Travellor

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I am wondering why Singaporeans have so much trust in government. In many countries it is regarded as a necessary evil. The first priority of any party in power is to stay in power. Any party will use incumbency to achieve that. The WP will do so if they ever form the government. The only safeguard is a vigilant population and a habit of scepticism. Singaporeans have a habit of dumping on people who have been championing their rights. They deserve what they get.

The basic tenet of a democracy has to be checks and balances against the abuses, excesses and failings of human nature.....

we have seen all these 3 flaws appear in the PAP and itrs time for us to bring back some democracy into this country!!!!
 

Confuseous

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What is the least courageous way to solve the problem? Turn it into something Ponzi like. For that you need to build the 700,000 units MND is plugging for. This government will stake its political life on the Population and Land Use White Paper. Right now in private the Cabinet must be lamenting why the people don't understand. They forget that most voters are Type 2 smart and at the end of the day, you don't lead a people with reason but trust. Too bad, that has been destroyed because the PM was reckless entertaining a safe to fail policy even with housing and transportation capacity. He played it loose for not preparing the infrastructure in case the population surged. Inderjit Singh has wisely suggested how to regain the people's trust but would the government listen?

- http://blogging4myself.blogspot.sg/2013/02/khaw-boon-wans-hdb-prices.html
 

Travellor

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Go head and spend on infrastructure ...it is good for generating economic activity within the country.

By all means, do build more apartments for CITIZENS!!!!

BUT dont ransom the citizenry with these!!!!
 

Kinana

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A welfare state is not a ponzi scheme?

Immigrants isn't a ponzi scheme because they can be let go easily or they go automatically. The govt is really very smart.
 

laksaboy

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I am wondering why Singaporeans have so much trust in government. In many countries it is regarded as a necessary evil. The first priority of any party in power is to stay in power. Any party will use incumbency to achieve that. The WP will do so if they ever form the government. The only safeguard is a vigilant population and a habit of scepticism. Singaporeans have a habit of dumping on people who have been championing their rights. They deserve what they get.

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That's because many people (especially the older generation), have been sufficiently brainwashed into thinking he's a saint, a hero, a savior, an expert statesman, yada yada...

By extrapolation, it also means his son, his party and his core values are benevolent and necessary for Singapore. Do not underestimate the power of the mainstream media and the 'education' system to indoctrinate people's minds.

Result: the blind leading the blind, and a nation of sheep ruled over by a government of wolves.
 

Travellor

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A welfare state is not a ponzi scheme?

Immigrants isn't a ponzi scheme because they can be let go easily or they go automatically. The govt is really very smart.


the never ending importation of new (and grateful) citizens from lesser nations to dilute the opposition vote with a view to perpetuate a stranglehold on power .... the kicking of the can further down the road in the so called justification of a silver tsunami....those are ponzi schemes....


you have to keep on doing it or else when the music stops, bloodletting will happen.....
 
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laksaboy

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Any incumbent party will attempt to stay in power. But in enlightened countries, there are ample checks and balances to ensure that a dynasty doesn't occur. It is already a mockery for the current PM of Singapore to be closely related by blood to the current President of Singapore.

If you want to play the nepotism game, you might as well scrap all elections and be like North Korea.
 
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Travellor

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The PAP will win 2016 GE again with ease....

not because useless sinkies voted them in ....but they are carried in by the beneficiaries of their ponzi scheme ...the new citizens....

wdf....
 

Rogue Trader

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It's not a ponzi scheme but it's definitely a scam. Essentially the government has run out of ideas on how to grow the economy. The immigration policy we've embarked on for the last few years is NOT the Foreign Talent policy. It is not used to inject talent into our workforce but to increase GDP thru rental income and sale of state assets.

The White Paper just shows their intent on using this method into overdrive for the next 17 years.

Gone are the heydays when EDB actually bothered to sniff out and invest long term in industries like

Working very well:

banking and finance
air/sea logistics
petroleum processing
Tourism (including medical tourism)

Worked well for a while
semicon

Yet to see return:
bioscience
education (stunted due to disputes with Ivy league unis over human rights, censorship)

Recent outrightly bad Ideas:
Casino
Immigration
 

Travellor

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It's not a ponzi scheme but it's definitely a scam. Essentially the government has run out of ideas on how to grow the economy. The immigration policy we've embarked on for the last few years is NOT the Foreign Talent policy. It is not used to inject talent into our workforce but to increase GDP thru rental income and sale of state assets.

The White Paper just shows their intent on using this method into overdrive for the next 17 years.

Gone are the heydays when EDB actually bothered to sniff out and invest long term in industries like

Working very well:

banking and finance
air/sea logistics
petroleum processing
Tourism (including medical tourism)

Worked well for a while
semicon

Yet to see return:
bioscience
education (stunted due to disputes with Ivy league unis over human rights, censorship)

Recent outrightly bad Ideas:
Casino
Immigration



EDB sniff?

only the arses of their PAP masters


there is only one economy in sinkipore now

Casino and money laundering....

just think about it ......everything else is tied to it....
 

Kinana

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It's not a ponzi scheme but it's definitely a scam. Essentially the government has run out of ideas on how to grow the economy. The immigration policy we've embarked on for the last few years is NOT the Foreign Talent policy. It is not used to inject talent into our workforce but to increase GDP thru rental income and sale of state assets.
Rental income is not income?
People who rent don't don't use money to rent?
What the hell you talking?



The White Paper just shows their intent on using this method into overdrive for the next 17 years.
There is a shortage of labour now bro. The demand is there. Its the demand that drives the supply n not the other way around yo dummy.


Gone are the heydays when EDB actually bothered to sniff out and invest long term in industries like

Working very well:

banking and finance
air/sea logistics
petroleum processing
Tourism (including medical tourism)
Its still growing bro.


Worked well for a while
semicon
wafer plants are still there bro.


Yet to see return:
bioscience
You gotta try.

education (stunted due to disputes with Ivy league unis over human rights, censorship)
We do reap a lot as of now. So many foreign students in Singapore.

Recent outrightly bad Ideas:
Casino
Immigration

Immigrants are to support whatever investments we brought in, not a money churner by itself yu silly boy.
 

laksaboy

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EDB sniff?

only the arses of their PAP masters


there is only one economy in sinkipore now

Casino and money laundering....

just think about it ......everything else is tied to it....

There is no coincidence that there has been a proliferation of pawn shops and moneylending ('fast credit') joints ever since the first casino had opened its doors for business. They are all over the island, in every town and heartland.
 

Travellor

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kinana: havent you read? Being a landlord is the worst kind of investment in terms of generating economic activity. You literally sit there and do fuck all. You call renting out your apartment or a room am economic activity?

wdf am i wasting my time with a fucking troll anyways... i give up..
 

Tuayapeh

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The basic tenet of a democracy has to be checks and balances against the abuses, excesses and failings of human nature.....

we have seen all these 3 flaws appear in the PAP and itrs time for us to bring back some democracy into this country!!!!



Even down here, the evil and the damned get a fair hearing of all the charges against them.... :biggrin:
 

Travellor

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everyone should just make themselves seen on 16th Feb.


please spread the word and get people to attend. If people can make their presence felt in a WP rally I dont understand why not this as well.
 

TheWhiteHorse

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A welfare state is not a ponzi scheme?

Immigrants isn't a ponzi scheme because they can be let go easily or they go automatically. The govt is really very smart.

I usually won't bother to reply to the many stupid statements on this forum but this takes the cake.

When you let go of the foreigners what to do with the shops, flats, trains and buses?
 

TenderLovingCare

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I usually won't bother to reply to the many stupid statements on this forum but this takes the cake.

When you let go of the foreigners what to do with the shops, flats, trains and buses?

When you let go of the foreigners, your shops, flats, trains and buses will be treated with more tender loving care.

More time for maintenance, less breakdown, and more efficiently run.
 

Enforcer

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There is no coincidence that there has been a proliferation of pawn shops and moneylending ('fast credit') joints ever since the first casino had opened its doors for business. They are all over the island, in every town and heartland.

You get smses almost every week asking if you need extra cash. Such is the competition and convenience.
 
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