The Kiwis got it right on Ministers & MPs pay

[da dick]

if NZ ministers are monkeys then can we outsource pappies to them anot? more cheaper and they probably won't waste as much money on bullshit cpf and temasex holding investments.

 

[Leongsam]

if NZ ministers are monkeys then can we outsource pappies to them anot? more cheaper and they probably won't waste as much money on bullshit cpf and temasex holding investments.

NZ has a porn minister who jerks off to naughty movies at the taxpayer's expense. Singapore is so much better. It has no porn Lui!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3796622/Shane-Jones-Minister-of-Pornography


The political future of shamed Labour MP Shane Jones is on a knife-edge after he admitted charging hotel pornography to his tax-payer funded credit card.

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Internal Affairs has spent months collating 7000 pages of credit card transactions and receipts from MPs’ spending. Stuff reporters are trawling through the receipts.
» Click here for highlights as they emerge

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Labour MPs who formed the last Labour-led government have endured a wave of humiliation today as ministerial credit card spending dating back 10 years is revealed.

More than 7000 documents were released under the Official Information Act today detailing credit card transactions by Labour ministers between 2003 and 2008.

Mr Jones has borne the brunt of the embarrassment this afternoon after his spending came to light with the release of MPs' expenses to the media this morning (see receipt).

He told reporters this afternoon he was not a "sex fiend" but got in the habit of watching pornographic movies while he was away. His wife was enraged after he broke the news to her this morning, he said.

The Labour spokesperson for economic development and the environment offered no excuses, saying: "I just lost the plot."

The shamed MP appears to be within a heart-beat of resigning from Parliament.

"[The people] will say that Shane has dug a hole for himself - a hole and that may very well prove to be his grave," Jones said of himself today.

PRIME MINISTER RESPONDS

Prime Minister John Key said he was "a little surprised" by the spending revealed today but it showed that the "transparency" instituted by his government worked by focusing the minds of ministers from now on.

Things hadn't been perfect under National but there had clearly been an improvement since Labour was in office.
"Hopefully we'll see improved behaviour in the future."

There was no need for rule changes, providing people stuck to the rules.

"The role of a minister was quite varied and sometimes they find themselves in difficult and unusual circumstances and there's certainly an element of entertaining for the likes of the minister of trade and the minister of foreign affairs."

Asked about Mr Groser's minibar bills, Mr Key said it added up to about one alcoholic drink a day, which was within the rules. Alcohol in Denmark was expensive.

"But I've certainly spoken to him and made it clear to all of my ministers what my expectations are. I expect them to be cautious with spending tax payer funds."

CARTER ALSO UNDER FIRE

Former Labour government minister Chris Carter was repeatedly warned about what was appropriate to use his ministerial credit card for but has still been caught out misusing it - including paying for movies in hotels, documents released today show.

Throughout the years Mr Carter's office was reminded about getting receipts and reconciliations in on time.

And early on, in June 2003, Dean Stratford finance manager in executive government support, sent an email saying: "Can you please remind the minister the importance of retaining the detailed invoice when using the corporate credit card," he wrote. The email goes on to talk about the Audit Office taking a "deep interest" in the use of cards.

In 2004 Mr Carter's office was sent the whole credit card policy and the paragraph on the need for supplying receipts was highlighted.
Mr Carter has previously been in the news for his expensive travel bill after work trips where his partner Peter Kaiser often accompanied him.
Mr Carter has checked the credit card transactions released to reporters for the years 2003 to 2008 and had found a few things that he should have paid for amounting to $251.16.

Those included two charges for watching pay per view movies in hotels, one for himself and one for a staff member. The movies cost $23 and $26.

Labour's Shane Jones today admitted using his card to pay for porn flicks in hotels. Mr Carter said he could not remember what film he watched; "I assure you it was not a pornographic movie". He did not know what the staff watched.

Mr Carter said he would pay back money for flowers and an April 9, 2008 charge for hotel spa treatment for a staff member.

He assured NZPA that other treatments such as massages at hotels had been reimbursed or paid privately already. Some payments had appeared on hotel receipts with other transactions even though they were not paid by ministerial cards.

"Some have been for me, some for staff and they have all been paid for. We have been most careful to check this."

Mr Carter said the flower purchasers should not have been put on the card but it had been staff rather than he that had made the error.

"It wasn't appropriate."

 

[kingrant]

Another sensible leader of a great nation..and to think that he gets only a fraction of what our "leaders" get. My heart breaks for hm.

Our govt accused employers of not pushing productivity, but it is the govt who has actually taken the easy way out by opening up to cheap foreign labour to avoid having to come to terms with the employers and with solving the root problem why locals shunned certain jobs..

'We must say no to giving work to immigrants just because our young people aren't up to the job': Cameron's anger at factories staffed by foreigners

The Prime Minister said the UK needs to ‘say no’ to the current situation, which sees half of workers in many factories coming from abroad.

Full Story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/<wbr>news/article-2478336/David-<wbr>Camerons-anger-factories-<wbr>staffed-foreigners.html

MailOnline

 

[neddy]

'We must say no to giving work to immigrants just because our young people aren't up to the job': Cameron's anger at factories staffed by foreigners

The Prime Minister said the UK needs to ‘say no’ to the current situation, which sees half of workers in many factories coming from abroad.

The political message is that he is trying to win over both the Left (Jobs) and the Right (No immigrants)
But the UK is stuffed!
The Admiralty is now so small that you need a magnifying glass to see the size.


Do people still believe in career politicians delivering the goods to the masses?

 

[Asterix]

NZ has a porn minister who jerks off to naughty movies at the taxpayer's expense. Singapore is so much better. It has no porn Lui!

My dear Sam this because there is a free press in Kiwiland
Who knows what’ll be exposed should the Fourth Estate
Be alive and well in Sinkieland instead of being stifled
Sure you’re old enough to know REAL Straits Times
Was shown the knuckle duster by that Harry Baboon
Moved to Kuala Lumpur to become NEW Straits Times
Then got the same treatment from Barisan Nasional

"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter." - Thomas Jefferson

 

[soIsee]

NZ politicians are grossly underpaid. They are paid peanuts and we have a bunch of monkeys running the country as a result.

So can your view translate to that is why they also have rules that allow foreign monkeys to enter their country and take up permanent residency there? LoL

 

[ZorrorroZ]

given the choice between a cheap monkey and an expensive monkey in government, we might as well get the cheap one.

 

[soIsee]

given the choice between a cheap monkey and an expensive monkey in government, we might as well get the cheap one.

At least if a cheap monkey would to steal toothpricks,, the voters would understand the 'cheaponess' as to why the cheap monkey would do such a thing.

But to pay a monkey a super high pay and yet the monkey goes round stealing toothpricks? LoL

 

[kingrant]

At least Cameroon expressed anger at liberally giving jobs to immigrants over solving root causes. Not something that our leaders are brave enough to do, even if it is for getting votes, due to the fact that they are being cowed by the employers and MNCs.

The political message is that he is trying to win over both the Left (Jobs) and the Right (No immigrants)
But the UK is stuffed!
The Admiralty is now so small that you need a magnifying glass to see the size.


Do people still believe in career politicians delivering the goods to the masses?

 

[neddy]

At least Cameroon expressed anger at liberally giving jobs to immigrants over solving root causes. Not something that our leaders are brave enough to do, even if it is for getting votes, due to the fact that they are being cowed by the employers and MNCs.

Politicians are now controlled by focus groups, opinion polls and voter appeal ahead of principle. So, it is really coincidental that "unpopular" Cameroon should be "expressing" anger at something he know all along and have done nothing in the past.

 

[neddy]

given the choice between a cheap monkey and an expensive monkey in government, we might as well get the cheap one.

There are never cheap monkeys around in government.
The cheap Chinese civil serpent managed to buy a $750,000 house for his only son studying in EasyU (ECU). How did he "earn" the money?