if he did not.........LHL will cutoff his foreskin & Whore Jinx will chopoff his peter
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Serious Tharman 'categorically' rules himself out as next PM
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if he did not.........LHL will cutoff his foreskin & Whore Jinx will chopoff his peter
It was so obvious that Tharman was building up his own power base by bringing in Ah Mu in the BB by-election.
Now that he knows he got the "public support" which he also knew that was set up HOChing to test Tharman loyalty to Assloong.
Tharman saw the writing on the wall, assloong won't last long with his health problem, categorically rules himself out as the next PM for the moment.
Afterall, he is the people's choice should assloong depart to join LKY.
If assloong is serious about leadership renewal and succession,
he should appoint Ah Keat and Ah Sing as DPM. Why Tharman and Ah Hean?
Assloong buying loyalty from Tharman and Ah Hean just like assloong buying
loyalty from the paper general by giving them top jobs and appointments.
Loyalty Not by Respect but By Bribery.
Now that he knows he got the "public support" which he also knew that was set up HOChing to test Tharman loyalty to Assloong.
Tharman saw the writing on the wall, assloong won't last long with his health problem, categorically rules himself out as the next PM for the moment.
Afterall, he is the people's choice should assloong depart to join LKY.
If assloong is serious about leadership renewal and succession,
he should appoint Ah Keat and Ah Sing as DPM. Why Tharman and Ah Hean?
Assloong buying loyalty from Tharman and Ah Hean just like assloong buying
loyalty from the paper general by giving them top jobs and appointments.
Loyalty Not by Respect but By Bribery.
The irony of his response is quite startling. It was measured, articulated very clearly and to the point. It also carried all the attributes of PM material far ahead of current PM. LHL on completing his A levels was awarded OMS. The father held him back another year and created SAFOS, and he was in the pioneer batch when it was launched the following year despite the fact that he was already an OMS recipient the previous year . There has never a case like this before or since. LHL journey was carefully crafted through his lifetime. Though intelligent, he chose to let his father fight his battles and watch that he took the sedan chair. Since becoming the PM, he wife has destroyed the value of the state sovereign fund significantly and this has a direct impact on CPF of all Singaporeans as well as the state coffers. He has repeatedly gone missing when a crisis looms. He turns up when all is fine. He famously apologised during GE2011 and pleaded for a second chance and garnered sympathy votes. Since taking office, he has not achieved anything of significance that has benefited Singaporeans.
Singaporeans are looking at Tharman as PM not only because he is good but because we have a failure as the incumbent and there is no sign of relief. They are also not looking for succession in the near future but right now.
Singaporeans are looking at Tharman as PM not only because he is good but because we have a failure as the incumbent and there is no sign of relief. They are also not looking for succession in the near future but right now.
Absolutely agree. Best of all, Chinese S'poreans see him as the best option when you have many Chinese cabinet ministers, including a DPM.
Even opposition supporters have a good opinion of Tharman. This chap could have united both the political and the racial divide.
In his mind, his greatest achievement since taking office is engineering the nearly 9.72% vote swing back to the PAP.
COMMENT: Tharman debate and the race rut Singapore is drifting into https://sg.news.yahoo.com/comment-tharman-debate-and-the-race-rut-singapore-070248821.html
From a limp economy to a listless society to a government with its back to the wall, Singapore is at a very painful point in its transition to a nation that must come to grips with the distressing effects of disruptive technology.
Swept into this developing perfect storm is Tharman Shanmugaratnam, the smart and affable Deputy Prime Minister caught in a polarising debate revolving round meritocracy and race.
It is an irritation that the country can do without. The issue is one of why Tharman cannot be the next PM, especially when a successor is not in sight.
The DPM’s categorical remark that he doesn’t want to be PM is an attempt to take race out of the equation as public momentum builds up on an unclear political succession.
He also doesn’t want to be a stumbling block for the fourth-generation leaders as they take over the mantle of leadership.
The government keeps pressing the point that Singaporeans are not ready for a non-Chinese PM. But public sentiments, as reflected in a survey commissioned by Yahoo Singapore and conducted by Blackbox Research, point to another direction.
This issue of the race of the PM is not new. Lee Kuan Yew had talked about it often, even declaring that S Dhanabalan was PM material but didn’t qualify because he did not belong to the majority race.
But today, public criticism has gotten louder mainly because of the government’s strategic error in wanting to change the Constitution to make sure a minority candidate can become the President one day.
This runs counter to its stand on a non-Chinese PM. The race criterion for the President does not apply while that for the PM continues to exist.
How can that contradiction be explained? And what about the government’s often-touted meritocracy argument? It has often been argued that Singapore is a place for talent, a place where talent can rise to the top without glass ceilings like race, gender or family connections.
Tharman’s “I’m not the man for PM” remark comes at a time when race has even seeped into the psyche of our young.
A recent TV programme called “Regardless Of Race” must have shocked those who had watched it.
The most disturbing part of the one-hour segment was the one where the host asks some primary school students a few point-blank questions. The answers are revealing.
What race does your best friend belong to?
Four of the five students said their best friends came from their race.
Do you talk about other races at home?
No.
Do people joke about your race?
People say my culture is bad.
How do you feel when they say that?
I feel like… why I am in this culture.
These students are going to carry all the prejudices and racial stereotypes with them as they grow up to become full-fledged citizens of Singapore.
The Tharman debate has to be seen through the lenses of these young and innocent minds. Our future leaders are already seeing their classmates and acquaintances through race. Even more frightening is what is happening at home where race is not even talked about.
This is not the Singapore that people of my generation grew up in. We had friends from all races with games like football being the leveller. We looked forward to festivals not because of the holidays that came with them but to be able to enjoy the cakes and the camaraderie.
Two generations later, Singapore seems to be drifting into a race rut.
A lot of it is played out below the surface.
The issue comes out once in a while, like in the Tharman debate. It is now up to the PM to come out and convince the so-called naysayers that Singapore can have a non-Chinese as PM — whether Tharman or someone else.
Hiding behind statements like Singaporeans are not ready won’t cut it anymore.
Singapore has reached where it is because of leaders who took the bull by its horns and did what they thought was morally right.
The time has come for that type of leadership. And race is a good place to start.
P N Balji is a veteran Singaporean journalist who is the former chief editor of TODAY newspaper, and a media consultant. The views expressed are his own.
From a limp economy to a listless society to a government with its back to the wall, Singapore is at a very painful point in its transition to a nation that must come to grips with the distressing effects of disruptive technology.
Swept into this developing perfect storm is Tharman Shanmugaratnam, the smart and affable Deputy Prime Minister caught in a polarising debate revolving round meritocracy and race.
It is an irritation that the country can do without. The issue is one of why Tharman cannot be the next PM, especially when a successor is not in sight.
The DPM’s categorical remark that he doesn’t want to be PM is an attempt to take race out of the equation as public momentum builds up on an unclear political succession.
He also doesn’t want to be a stumbling block for the fourth-generation leaders as they take over the mantle of leadership.
The government keeps pressing the point that Singaporeans are not ready for a non-Chinese PM. But public sentiments, as reflected in a survey commissioned by Yahoo Singapore and conducted by Blackbox Research, point to another direction.
This issue of the race of the PM is not new. Lee Kuan Yew had talked about it often, even declaring that S Dhanabalan was PM material but didn’t qualify because he did not belong to the majority race.
But today, public criticism has gotten louder mainly because of the government’s strategic error in wanting to change the Constitution to make sure a minority candidate can become the President one day.
This runs counter to its stand on a non-Chinese PM. The race criterion for the President does not apply while that for the PM continues to exist.
How can that contradiction be explained? And what about the government’s often-touted meritocracy argument? It has often been argued that Singapore is a place for talent, a place where talent can rise to the top without glass ceilings like race, gender or family connections.
Tharman’s “I’m not the man for PM” remark comes at a time when race has even seeped into the psyche of our young.
A recent TV programme called “Regardless Of Race” must have shocked those who had watched it.
The most disturbing part of the one-hour segment was the one where the host asks some primary school students a few point-blank questions. The answers are revealing.
What race does your best friend belong to?
Four of the five students said their best friends came from their race.
Do you talk about other races at home?
No.
Do people joke about your race?
People say my culture is bad.
How do you feel when they say that?
I feel like… why I am in this culture.
These students are going to carry all the prejudices and racial stereotypes with them as they grow up to become full-fledged citizens of Singapore.
The Tharman debate has to be seen through the lenses of these young and innocent minds. Our future leaders are already seeing their classmates and acquaintances through race. Even more frightening is what is happening at home where race is not even talked about.
This is not the Singapore that people of my generation grew up in. We had friends from all races with games like football being the leveller. We looked forward to festivals not because of the holidays that came with them but to be able to enjoy the cakes and the camaraderie.
Two generations later, Singapore seems to be drifting into a race rut.
A lot of it is played out below the surface.
The issue comes out once in a while, like in the Tharman debate. It is now up to the PM to come out and convince the so-called naysayers that Singapore can have a non-Chinese as PM — whether Tharman or someone else.
Hiding behind statements like Singaporeans are not ready won’t cut it anymore.
Singapore has reached where it is because of leaders who took the bull by its horns and did what they thought was morally right.
The time has come for that type of leadership. And race is a good place to start.
P N Balji is a veteran Singaporean journalist who is the former chief editor of TODAY newspaper, and a media consultant. The views expressed are his own.
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Thanks, I missed this.
What I found interesting is that Tharman acknowledged that he was aware that they were calling for him to be PM. It means that the rest of the cabinet and the movers and shakers are fully aware.
It probably explain one particular trivia that has emerged recently - Ho Ching seeking attention in the National space with handbags as the excuse. Old Man's wife did nothing of that sort and never had to. Neither did GCT's wife.
What I found interesting is that Tharman acknowledged that he was aware that they were calling for him to be PM. It means that the rest of the cabinet and the movers and shakers are fully aware.
It probably explain one particular trivia that has emerged recently - Ho Ching seeking attention in the National space with handbags as the excuse. Old Man's wife did nothing of that sort and never had to. Neither did GCT's wife.
Thats an interesting connection to raise.
I was told quite reliably that his growing popularity especially the way he galvanised votes and then swung behind Murali was led to severe discomfort especially with the rumbling call/notion of him taking over as PM grew in popularity. Nobody really paid attention to Woody and his orang minyak parables (his penchant for dropping Malay-worded aphrorisms has grown rather stale). He is not part of the plan because of his race. But Lord Social Media has not spared them and truly thrown a thorn in their side that they are trying to nip - but its a thorn and seems to just get deeper given the context of the EP and the rhetoric around that about minority representation.
I understand that the socialist zeal displayed post their worse electoral showing has been attributed to him and it played out well as mentioned by Aruvandil. So he's been asked to not be so prominently in the public eye especially since people do pay attention when he speaks. He was also very well-liked at MAS and could muster the troops without much effort. His temperament also endeared him. Not sure whether the same could have been said about LHL.
The other aspiring pretenders to the throne are also not too happy because they are obviously going to be compared not only to the Lees but also to Tharman.
Interestingly the older generation also identify his manner, presence and intelligence with the first generation team. He would win the nostalgic vote too. I don't believe there is currently any minority MP who matches him as a package.
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Maybe he is using reverse psychology. If there is widespread open public support and if the timing is right, he may well change his mind.
those who want tarmaneh to be PM, their brain must be filled with water.You want Singapore to move towards the standards of Dhaka,Mumbai, Islamabad Or Tokyo ,Shanghai or Hong Kong?
Not sure about other WP MPs and NCMPs but I am aware LTK and SL rate Tharman very highly.
Where's the forumer who will not bat an eyelid if he pumps 6 rounds at Ah Neh but not the cobra ? :p
The 2 most likeable ministers share some similarities.
Both Tharman & HSK did not come from the SAF as scholar generals. Both read Economics and were Perm Secs before taking the plunge to politics.
Both led MAS and headed Education and Finance. Both can easily make a living outside politics. Neither do they steal credit attention and glory.
Both don't belong to the clown or crying category. Think CCS, LSS, KBW, TCJ, VB, GF et cetera.
Any further similarities?
Both Tharman & HSK did not come from the SAF as scholar generals. Both read Economics and were Perm Secs before taking the plunge to politics.
Both led MAS and headed Education and Finance. Both can easily make a living outside politics. Neither do they steal credit attention and glory.
Both don't belong to the clown or crying category. Think CCS, LSS, KBW, TCJ, VB, GF et cetera.
Any further similarities?
There are 2 other outstanding points on Tharman, where he appears to outshine everyone in the local political scene, including LHL:
1) His role in the IMF
2) His tour de force performance at the St Gallen Symposium
1) His role in the IMF
2) His tour de force performance at the St Gallen Symposium
This is very sad for Singapore where people are ignorantly pushing Singapore towards the category or standard of South Asia where poverty is prevalent everywhere.
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