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Temasek ready to sell Shin Corp after court ruling against Thaksin

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http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/economics/33911/temasek-wary-of-shin

Temasek wary of Shin
Firm may sell shares for the right price
Published: 5/03/2010 at 12:00 AM

The Singapore investment giant Temasek could move to divest its shareholdings in Shin Corp amid growing business and regulatory risk in the wake of the Supreme Court's ruling in the Shinawatra family's assets case.

Temasek, the major shareholder of Shin, may sell if the right buyer emerged, said Somprasong Boonyachai, Shin's executive chairman and acting president.

"If a buyer emerged today, they would probably sell. [Temasek] has never indicated that it wanted to hold its investment forever," he told the Bangkok Post.


Mr Somprasong said he had spoken with Temasek executives earlier this week about the implications of last week's ruling in the Thaksin assets seizure case and its potential impact on Shin and its associated companies.

He explained to Temasek that the court case did not directly involve Shin or its mobile flagship AIS, as the case related to the personal affairs of its former shareholder and founder.

But share prices for Shin and other telecom firms have plummeted in recent days amid fears that the government may seek damages from local operators.

The Supreme Court last Friday ordered 46 billion baht in assets confiscated from Mr Thaksin and his family for abusing his power while in office by enacting policies for personal benefit. The policies included imposing an excise tax on telecom services in 2003 and directing the Export-Import Bank to approve a loan to Burma to finance the use of satellite services from Thaicom, 41% held by Shin.

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva this week ordered an inquiry into the culpability of private operators in light of the ruling.

The Finance Ministry previously estimated that amendments to concession contracts between state-owned TOT Corp and CAT Telecom and private operators such as AIS, DTAC, True and TT&T have cost the state more than 138 billion baht.

Phatra Securities this week estimated that AIS, 42.65% held by Shin, could be subject to claims of up to 68 billion baht if the government demanded compensation for the excise tax policy as well as changes in revenue-sharing payments for pre-paid services approved in 2001 under the Thaksin government.

Shin, AIS and Thaicom this week all issued statements to the Stock Exchange of Thailand expressing confidence that they could clarify the "historical background, principles and rationale" of their past dealings with the state.

Mr Somprasong said he had reassured Temasek that Shin was in full compliance with Thai law.

But regulatory and political risk has certainly taken a toll on Temasek's patience. Temasek, like any investor, needed to consider its shareholdings' short- and long-term prospects.

"Say you buy a certain shirt for 1,000 baht. Today, you no longer like the shirt. But it's not really a big concern, and you have lots of alternatives," Mr Somprasong said.

"For Temasek, they have a very large, very diverse portfolio. They have suffered losses before, perhaps even larger than that of the Shin deal."

Net portfolio assets for Temasek stood at S$172 billion (about 4 trillion baht) as of July 2009. The global crisis took a sharp toll on the fund's holdings, with total shareholder returns down 30% for the year to March 2009. The fund has taken a hit from a series of ill-timed investments over the past few years, including a US$5.9-billion investment in the US investment bank Merrill Lynch in 2007, right before the US sub-prime mortgage crisis.

Mr Somprasong said over the past two years, Shin Corp had tried to divorce itself from politics, recent events notwithstanding. He said the company would co-operate fully with any official inquiries and asked for fair treatment.

He said the 2001 contract amendment cutting revenue-sharing payments to TOT to a flat 20%, from 25-30%, for prepaid services should be looked at fairly from both sides.

The concession change also committed AIS to reduce calling rates, Mr Somprasong said.

"We actually reduced rates much more than what was required under the amendment," he said.

AIS was also obliged to invest more in its network - which was transferred to TOT - to help accommodate the increase in mobile customers, Mr Somprasong said.

A Temasek spokesman in Singapore declined to comment on its Thai investments or the political environment.

Temasek took control of Shin in January 2006 in a 73-billion-baht buyout of a 49% stake controlled by the Shinawatra family.

The investment was structured through a series of complicated holding vehicles to bypass foreign investment restrictions under the Foreign Business Act. Shin today is 54% owned by Cedar Holding and 41.68% by Aspen Holdings, which are both in turn held by Temasek.

The Singapore investment fund has lost a fortune on paper from its investment, considering that the shares are currently trading more than 44% down from the original purchase price of 49.25 baht each.

SHIN shares closed yesterday on the SET at 27.50 baht, up 50 satang, in trade worth 24 million baht.
 

kensington

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The Thai have many fables and tales but nothing on The Goose That Laid The Golden Eggs.

"The Dog And The Bone" is happening now...
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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The board of directors at Temasek should have been hauled to parliament to answer for their actions in Thaliand. They acted like criminals by breaking another country's laws and put our citizens and relationship with a neighbouring country in jeopardy.

Every thing long-term they say but reality is tht they can't control what happens and as has been seen lately, many of their investments went bust or they were forced to sell in the short-term.

Vote the PAPies out in the next GE. We, the peopl deserve better use of our reserves. ALl Temasek has done is to create a very expensive playground for their cronies. Many at Temasek are paid millions a year. :oIo:
 

tonychat

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Don't you just love it when the Thais screw the sinkies. What a great start to a wonderful weekend.
 

kensington

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The board of directors at Temasek should have been hauled to parliament to answer for their actions in Thaliand. They acted like criminals by breaking another country's laws and put our citizens and relationship with a neighbouring country in jeopardy.


What laws were being broken ?

We have to put things in perspective here :

No laws were broken since whatever charges those military fairies concocted up was after the coup in 2006. Too bad Singapore Navy couldn't show force with a couple of aircraft carriers up and down Maenam Chao Phraya.


Phatra Securities this week estimated that AIS, 42.65% held by Shin, could be subject to claims of up to 68 billion baht if the government demanded compensation for the excise tax policy as well as changes in revenue-sharing payments for pre-paid services approved in 2001 under the Thaksin government.

Read : Compensation in this term means daylight robbery since there were no capital gains tax laws in Thailand before Thaksin was brought to trial to face this so called "tax evasion" charges.
 

Brightkid

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From 2006 to 2010......that is pretty LONG TE$M in Temasek's definition. They could have easily loose as much, if not more, in few months.
 

Ramseth

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From 2006 to 2010......that is pretty LONG TE$M in Temasek's definition. They could have easily loose as much, if not more, in few months.

That's Singlish. They can't pronounce the clustered consonant Wr properly and came out sounding like L.
 

commoner

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aiya,,,,,,,, lost $2-4bil over 4 years,,,, no big deal,,,,,

extra $30/mth for the poor, thats very important, we need parliamentary approval, maybe must get prata-man to use his 2nd key, and multiple parliamentary sittings to make sure we do not develop crutch mentality,,,,,,,,

Balls to you to all CB MPs,,,,
 

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What laws were being broken ?

We have to put things in perspective here :

No laws were broken since whatever charges those military fairies concocted up was after the coup in 2006. Too bad Singapore Navy couldn't show force with a couple of aircraft carriers up and down Maenam Chao Phraya.




Read : Compensation in this term means daylight robbery since there were no capital gains tax laws in Thailand before Thaksin was brought to trial to face this so called "tax evasion" charges.




Whaddayamean no laws were broken?

Foreigners are not allowed to own more than 49% of Thai assets.
 

kensington

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Whaddayamean no laws were broken?

Foreigners are not allowed to own more than 49% of Thai assets.

The Alien Business Law of 1972 primarily serves to define and narrow the scope of foreign participation in Thai business activities. An alien is defined as a person or company without Thai nationality and includes:



• A company with at least one-half of shares in its registered capital being held by aliens or companies in which the capital contribution by aliens exceeds 50 percent.

• A company with more than half of the number of shareholders, partners or members being alien, regardless of their capital investment.

• A limited partnership, or a registered ordinary partnership in which the managing partner is an alien.




Get yourself a new lawyer/consultant because apparently he/she doesn't know Thailand that much.


Closed to Aliens


• Agricultural Businesses
• Rice farming
• Salt farming, including manufacture but excluding rock salt mining

• Commercial Businesses
• Internal trade in local agricultural products
• Land trade

• Service Businesses
• Accounting
• Law
• Architecture
• Advertising

• Brokerage or agency
• Auctioneering
• Barber, hairdressing, and beautification

• Other Businesses
• Building construction


Closed to Aliens unless promoted by the Board of Investment

• Agricultural Businesses
• Cultivation
• Orchard farming
• Animal husbandry, including silk worm raising
• Timbering
• Fishing

• Industrial and Handicraft Businesses
• Rice mill
• Manufacture of flour from rice field crops
• Manufacture of sugar
• Manufacture of beverages
• Alcoholic blending
• Manufacture of ice
• Manufacture of drugs
• Cold storage
• Wood processing
• Manufacture of products from gold, silver, niello, or bronze
• Manufacture or casting of images of Buddha and manufacture of alms bowls
• Manufacture of wood carvings
• Manufacture of lacquer ware
• Manufacture of all types of matches
• Manufacture of lime, cement, and cement products
• Stone blasting or crushing
• Manufacture of plywood, wood veneer, chip-board or hard-board
• Manufacture of garments or shoes except for export
• Printing press
• Newspaper publication
• Silk combing, silk weaving or printing of pattern or silk material
• Manufacture of products from silk, silk treads or silk cocoon.

• Commercial Businesses
• Retailing of all products
• Sale of mining products
• Sale of all types of food and beverage
• Sale of antiques, period antiques or works of art.

• Service Businesses
• Tour agencies
• Hotel business except hotel management
• Business under the law on service-providing establishments
• Photography, photographic developing and printing
• Laundry
• Tailoring and dressmaking
• Internal transport by land, water, or air.





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If you are as big as Temasik and venturing into Thailand, whatever rules were bent were not the works of Temasik's people, so stop baying for their bloods.

There was nothing fundamentally wrong with Temasik's involvement into Thailand except the proverbial bad luck that turned into a political football and now they are reaching into extra time... Penalty shoot out, maybe ???



And why you registered a new nick just to post this ?
 
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kensington

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Thailand Tightens Foreign Investment Laws


The new measures, which are meant to prevent foreign investors from gaining majority control of some Thai companies, were approved today by the cabinet. But they will not take effect until two government bodies also approve them.

The cabinet action was badly received by investors, who bid the main Thai stock index downward by more than 2 percent today, the latest setback in a market that plunged last month after the introduction of capital controls.

“Thailand has shot itself in the foot,” said Ping Chew, a regional analyst at Standard & Poor’s in Singapore. “I know there are domestic pressures, but they have to be sensible and rational about it. Otherwise they are going to deter foreign investment..”

The decision today by the military-appointed cabinet, if it is upheld, would require some foreign investors to sell holdings in Thai companies that exceed 50 percent, and to give up any voting rights in excess of 50 percent even if their ownership stake is less than that, according to the country’s finance minister, Pridiyathorn Devakula.

It was not clear today exactly which foreign companies would be required to reduce their stakes or find a Thai partner.

Mr. Devakula said the limits would apply to companies operating in telecommunications and other sectors “vital to national security.” But retailers, insurers, banks and brokers will be exempt, the country’s commerce minister, Krirkkrai Jirapaet, told Reuters. Affected companies will have two years to comply.

Analysts said the details of the announcement were less important than the message it sent of unpredictability, confusion and xenophobia.

Last month, the government announced new capital controls in an effort to stem the rise of the baht’s value against the dollar and other foreign currencies, only to partly rescind them the next day after the stock market plunged 15 percent.

Confidence in Thailand was further shaken when eight bombs went off around the Thai capital on New Year’s Eve, killing three people and wounding more than 40.

The last thing Thailand needed, analysts said, was a new law restricting foreign investment.

“I don’t quite understand what purpose this is designed to serve,” said Korn Chatikavanij, a former president of the Thai unit of J.P. Morgan Chase. “Effectively, it’s a tightening of foreign ownership, which begs the question of why in this day and age this is good for Thailand.”

The country is already heavily dependent both on foreign investment and on international trade. But investors are turning wary.

Approved inward foreign investment fell by 43 percent during the first 11 months of 2006 to 305.8 billion baht, or $8.6 billion, compared with the same period in 2005, according to Thailand’s Board of Investment.

Political instability leading up to the coup last September that ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra already had frightened away some foreign investors, a development that would be aggravated by the new investment rule, Mr. Korn said.

“The law that exists already provides protection,” he said. “It doesn’t seem reasonable to make it more onerous.”

Analysts inside Thailand said the two-year grace period was more lenient than many had been expecting.

“At one point, they were talking about six months,” said Ammar Siamwalla, an economist at the Thailand Development Research Institute. The extra time, he said, would allow companies “to find new partners, and probably for them to find new loopholes.”

Thitinan Pongsudhirak, a professor of political science at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok, called the announcement a compromise.

“The exemptions are wide-ranging, and the grace period rather long,” he said.

The ostensible goal of the new rules is to close loopholes that the Thai government says enabled the investment arm of the Singapore government, known as Temasek, to buy control of Shin, Thailand’s dominant telecommunications company, from the family of Mr. Thaksin last January for $1.9 billion.

That deal sparked public protests against Mr. Thaksin that eventually led to the September coup.

It also resulted, after a general tender offer for the company’s shares, in Temasek and its partners ended up with more than 90 percent of Shin’s shares, and thus with control of Thailand’s leading cellular operator, a satellite company and a leading TV broadcaster — all of which were deemed politically sensitive.

Foreign ownership in those sectors is limited to 49 percent. But Temasek used a convoluted shareholding structure that limits its direct ownership of Shin to just over 40 percent, while controlling the rest through intermediary entities.

Temasek has repeatedly denied any legal wrongdoing, saying its shareholding structure was a commonly used one that complied with current law. Other investments using similar structures include Thai companies controlled by Telenor of Norway, DHL of Germany and Carrefour of France. Representatives of Temasek could not be reached for comment today.

What incensed the Thai public most about the Shin deal, though, was that Mr. Thaksin’s family was able to arrange the deal in a way that avoided any income tax liability for them, and that Singapore had essentially helped the family cash out of a company they saw as having been nurtured with preferential government treatment during Mr. Thaksin’s five years in office.

His ouster set in motion a series of legal challenges to the deal, including a suit against regulators who approved it and an investigation into allegations of tax evasion. That inquiry led to the dismissal of the head of Thailand’s revenue department.

The Thai Commerce Ministry also conducted its own investigation into whether the Shin purchase violated the country’s existing foreign investment laws, which prohibit the use of domestic proxies, or nominees, to disguise the extent to which a foreign investor controls a Thai company.

Temasek and its partners have denied using any such nominees, but the Commerce Ministry concluded otherwise. In November it passed the results of its investigation to prosecutors, who are weighing filing charges.

How the new regulations would clear up the issues in the Temasek case remained unclear. Mr. Korn, the J.P. Morgan Chase executive, said the new law was unnecessary because the Commerce Ministry had already concluded that Temasek had broken the existing law.

In practice, though, Thai authorities have generally turned a blind eye to foreign investors who lend money to local investment partners, who then in turn cede the voting rights they acquire to their foreign backers.
 

singveld

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so our CPF money gone into helping thailand economic, this proof that we have a caring gov.
 

soikee

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aiya,,,,,,,, lost $2-4bil over 4 years,,,, no big deal,,,,,

extra $30/mth for the poor, thats very important, we need parliamentary approval, maybe must get prata-man to use his 2nd key, and multiple parliamentary sittings to make sure we do not develop crutch mentality,,,,,,,,

Balls to you to all CB MPs,,,,

Aiyah neh mind lah.....after all it's not the ccb whore jinx's money, but CPF still has a few hundred billions to lose right?
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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so our CPF money gone into helping thailand economic, this proof that we have a caring gov.

Many years ago, before Temasek came about, people were asking the PAPies to spend more of our reserves. The PAPies replied that the reserves are required to fend off attacks against our currency in the open market.

Once Temasek came about, they forgot about our currency and instead use Temasek to enrich themselves and to indulge in gigantuan investments without much forethought.

Even in the worst economic crisis of the modern world, the PAPies spent and lost many times more than what they spent on their citizens and economy. Isn't it clear where their priorities lie?

And it will only get worse if they win the next GE because you can expect at least half a million NEW FTs and citizens within five years of te next GE if te PAPies win the next GE.

You all better know this for a fact and do your best to educate others to vote the PAPies out.

Mediacorpse is already showing SAF propaganda and it is a sign that the elections are on the way.
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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What laws were being broken ?

We have to put things in perspective here :

No laws were broken since whatever charges those military fairies concocted up was after the coup in 2006. Too bad Singapore Navy couldn't show force with a couple of aircraft carriers up and down Maenam Chao Phraya.

Read : Compensation in this term means daylight robbery since there were no capital gains tax laws in Thailand before Thaksin was brought to trial to face this so called "tax evasion" charges.

Temasek, through various shadow companies, actually owned more than 49%. As usual those twats were trying to hoodwink their way into the Thai economy with the help of their good hakka friend, Thaksin.

But they got found out and the people were not happy including Thaksin's then recent removal of capital gains tax just before he sold his shares to Temasek.

This isn't the first time Temasek got into similar trouble. They also tried the same trick in South Korea and Indonesia and have been hounded by the relevant and repective authorities.

Temasek is a national disgrace for making Singaporeans look like criminals and for endangering the relationship between Singapore and their neighbours.
 

singveld

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chao is pronounce /ˈkeɪɒs/ Show Spelled[key-os]

not chou.
so it is choupappypoddle

not chaopappypoodle
 
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