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Tang Dynasty people did not speak Mandarin !

Sinkie

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Yunnan : Biblical Garden of Eden

Botanical studies have found that all species of trees have their genetic origin in Yunnan.

http://www.eifiles.cn/ge-en.htm

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Kinana

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Flooded does not mean destroyed. If destroyed, why the need for the fiery cherubim to guard it? It is still guarding the garden until this age and time.

I suggest you read the Bible yourself before you make comments or form opinions about events within the Bible.
The entire earth was covered by a massive flood and the earth moved. How can the garden still remain what it is? What is the point of having an Edan around? And if there is a cherubim gurading there, how can Miao ppl be there?
 

Sinkie

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Re: Heard Of Nestorian

I suggest you read the Bible yourself before you make comments or form opinions about events within the Bible.
The entire earth was covered by a massive flood and the earth moved. How can the garden still remain what it is? What is the point of having an Edan around? And if there is a cherubim gurading there, how can Miao ppl be there?

Genesis according to the Miao people: http://www.icr.org/article/341/289/
 

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Laozi, Isaiah and the Bible

[video=youtube;r12WVWudiXU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r12WVWudiXU&feature=share&list=ULr12WVWudiXU[/video]

Kinana, do you read the Tao? Go read it.
 

Sinkie

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Good, so the Bible is true then.
The same can't be said of the Quran can it?

I did not say the bible is true. I said the ancient Chinese ancestors understood Genesis through the Chinese language and it so happened that elements of these were narrated in Genesis of the bible, which was edited by Moses in 1,200 BC. Which comes first, you need to understand that before you try to understand if the bible is true or not.
 

Kinana

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I did not say the bible is true. I said the ancient Chinese ancestors understood Genesis through the Chinese language and it so happened that elements of these were narrated in Genesis of the bible, which was edited by Moses in 1,200 BC. Which comes first, you need to understand that before you try to understand if the bible is true or not.

In other words, the stories in Genesis is true isn't it?
 

Sinkie

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bro..................what happened ??!!......................how come you now -420 points ???..................possible meh ?

Because he sinned and fell short of the glory of the almighty and merciful God. It is through the mercy of God that he would be saved. Since he keep denying the red earth in Yunnan as the red earth Adamah mentioned, he needs to be punished for saying that the garden of Eden was destroyed by the great flood, which is blasphemy.
 

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hokkien is one of the few surviving chinese languages from the tang dynasty


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if you're a hokkien, do you know hokkien is the ancient imperial language of china - over 1,000 years ago.

If you're a hokkien take note !!

You'll be surprised. You have heard it. You, your parents, or grandparents may still be speaking this ancient, archaic language!

Yes, it's hokkien (fujian/minnan hua 福建话/闽南话)

hokkien is:

1. The surviving language of the tang dynasty (唐朝, 618 - 907 a.d.), china 's golden age of culture.

Note: The hokkien we hear today may have "evolved" from its original form thousand of years ago, but it still retains the main elements of the tang dynasty language.

2. Hokkiens are the surviving descendants of the tang dynasty -- when the tang dynasty collapsed, the people of the tang dynasty fled south and sought refuge in the hokkien ( fujian 福建省) province. Hence, hokkien called themselves tng-lang (唐人(比喻为唐朝子孙) tang ren or people of the tang dynasty) instead of hua lang (华人 hua ren).

3. Hokkien has 8 tones instead of mandarin's 4. Linguists claim that ancient languages tend to have more complex tones.

4. Hokkien retains the ancient chinese pronunciation of "k-sounding" endings (for instance, 学生 hak seng (student), 大学 tua ok (university), 读册 thak chek (read a book/study) -- the "k" sounding ending is not found in mandarin.

5. The collection of the famous "three hundred tang dynasty poems" (唐诗三百首) sound better when recited in hokkien/teochew if compared to mandarin.

6. Consider this for a moment: Today, the hokkien nam yim ochestral performance still has its roots in ancient tang dynasty music. Here's the proof: The formation of today nam yim ensemble is typically seen in ancient tang dynasty paintings of musicians.

More astonishingly:
Although not genetically-related, hokkiens, koreans and japanese share many similar words (which are different from mandarin). Example: News - 新闻 shim bun, world - 世界 se kai in japanese)

that's because hokkien was the official language of the powerful tang dynasty whose influence and language spread to japan and korea (just like latin – where many words were borrowed by the english, french, italian, etc).


To all 49 million hokkien speakers:

Be proud of your ancient hokkien heritage & language! Speak it loud and clear. Teach your future generation this imperial language, less it fades away. Be proud children of the tang emperors.

To all mandarin-speaking friends out there -- do not look down on your other chinese friends who do not speak mandarin – whom you guys fondly refer to as "bananas". In fact, they are speaking a language which is much more ancient & linguistically complicated than mandarin.

Keep in mind that mandarin is just:

1. A northern chinese dialect 北方话 (heavily influenced by non-han chinese) that was elevated to the status of national language by sun yat sen (孙中山,原名孙逸仙) for the sake of china’s national unity.

2. Mandarin was never spoken by your proud, imperial tang dynasty ancestors. It was probably spoken by the northern (non-han 北方民族) jurchen (女真族), mongols (蒙古族) and manchu (满族(女真族的后代)) minority. Start speaking the language of your ancestors today.

wrong. Tang dynasty's official tongue is middle chinese which sounds more like cantonese
 

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If hokkien was the official language of the Tang. That Tang would never have been the greatest Chinese Dynasty. With tat sort of hokkein attitude.kia su. Kia see n kiam suip. The Tang Dynasty would never even have got off the ground.

wrong. Tang dynasty's official tongue is middle chinese which sounds more like cantonese
 

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If hokkien was the official language of the Tang. That Tang would never have been the greatest Chinese Dynasty. With tat sort of hokkein attitude.kia su. Kia see n kiam suip. The Tang Dynasty would never even have got off the ground.

Jeebye la don't talk like that about hokkien lang la
 
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