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Tan Jee Say and Tan Cheng Bock in Talks

steffychun

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First round of talks completed. Watch this space.

Maybe they want to share the Presidency. You take had the term I take the other half. Or one is Vice Pres (Biden) the other is Pres.

Why not have two Presidents? At least then its not just one keyholder to the reserves.
 

scroobal

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These are realistic people. The main intention is to give the PAP a run for their money. Permutations are being worked out.
Maybe they want to share the Presidency. You take had the term I take the other half. Or one is Vice Pres (Biden) the other is Pres.Why not have two Presidents? At least then its not just one keyholder to the reserves.
 

jujim

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A bit surprised that they issued COE so early. Thought they will issue on 16 Aug so no much time left for talks/agreement.

Will be interesting next few days "leading to nomination".
 

MightyMouse

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These are realistic people. The main intention is to give the PAP a run for their money. Permutations are being worked out.

Depends on what is Jee Say's objectives in running for Presidency. If it is to deny TT, then he would be willing to consider pulling out. One option is for Jee Say to be one of Dr Tan Cheng Bock's nominee for Council of Presidential Advisor as his background in funds management is useful and the fact that he has obtained the COE is also relevant. That way, he will remain partially in the lime light, and also having the stature of being a member of the CPA. That will still be significant exposure prior to 2016.

Hope that will be the outcome. Pending that announcement, also hope that TKL do his sum and pull out as his $48,000 at stake.... HAHAHA
 

Varuna

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First round of talks completed. Watch this space.

It's a pretty uncomfortable 4 corner fight. Apart from TT, the remaining 3 must be feeling the heat. If TJS and TCB are in talks without TKL, it may ultimately end up a 3 corner, and still may not be good enough to significantly diminish TT's chances of getting the seat. Now the situation calls for these 3 to re-align their objective from one that is selfishly for himself to another that will give TT a run for his money. Some sacrifices got to be made. They do not have much choice anymore. For us, 27 Aug will be just another public holiday, without the excitement of coz. :smile:
 
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Narong Wongwan

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2 must step down/pull out to have a real fighting chance.
TJS can garner at least 40% if all opposition votes stand behind him in one on one.
 

Raiders

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2 must step down/pull out to have a real fighting chance.
TJS can garner at least 40% if all opposition votes stand behind him in one on one.

I agree with 2 pulling out. Now that Scrobool mentioned that TJS and TCB are in talks, the ball is now in TKL's court. But I still feel that something is not right. Surely the ruling party must have calculated that there is a risk of 2 persons withdrawing thus making it a 2 person fight which will make it really tough for TT. Or are they confident that some of the candidates are too egoistic to even consider pulling out?
 

Goh Meng Seng

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Any straight fight, Tony Tan will win. This is based on the GE2011 results; meaning, if this Presidential Elections is to be fought as PAP vs Opposition, PAP will win about 60% or slightly less while the other "opposition proxy" will win about 40% plus minus.

It is important for TCB to stay in the game as he will split TT's votes. A three corner fight in this case is the best chance to take TT down. This is why PAP decided to make it a four corner fight.

Goh Meng Seng
 
Z

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Any straight fight, Tony Tan will win. This is based on the GE2011 results; meaning, if this Presidential Elections is to be fought as PAP vs Opposition, PAP will win about 60% or slightly less while the other "opposition proxy" will win about 40% plus minus.

It is important for TCB to stay in the game as he will split TT's votes. A three corner fight in this case is the best chance to take TT down. This is why PAP decided to make it a four corner fight.

Goh Meng Seng


if your reasoning is correct, just issue coe to TT and TCB will do...
TT will win and no need to open EP floodgate for future fund managers
 

cleareyes

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I agree with 2 pulling out. Now that Scrobool mentioned that TJS and TCB are in talks, the ball is now in TKL's court. But I still feel that something is not right. Surely the ruling party must have calculated that there is a risk of 2 persons withdrawing thus making it a 2 person fight which will make it really tough for TT. Or are they confident that some of the candidates are too egoistic to even consider pulling out?

Glad to see TCB and TJS talking. This is how politics work, by talking.

Dont think TKl will pull out, the guy is too arrogant and have too much self-importance to give way to others. Read his comment when given the COE and that showed you his degree of respect to others.
 

Pioneer

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TT will win and no need to open EP floodgate for future fund managers

The EP floodgate is open to future senior civil servants and not fund managers.

PAP wants to keep the door open in case PAP needs to field senior civil servants.
 

jw5

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These are realistic people. The main intention is to give the PAP a run for their money. Permutations are being worked out.

If 4 corner fight, TT will win easily even if the split is 40-20-20-20.

If TJS backs out and garners support behind TCB, he can take away some opposition supporters who would have voted for him or even for TKL before TJS came on. That would be a good move.

Don't agree with GMS that in a straight fight, TT will win more easily than in a 3 corner.
TT vs TCB, many pap supporters will vote for TCB.
TKL joins in, he takes away some opposition votes from TCB. That will make it easier for TT.
The easiest for TT would be a 4 corner.
 

annexa

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If only approve TCB and TT, TT may lose. Because TCB may get 30-40% of the PAP votes, plus oppo votes. Throw in the other 2 to split oppo votes and pin down TCB, TT wil win.

if your reasoning is correct, just issue coe to TT and TCB will do...
TT will win and no need to open EP floodgate for future fund managers
 

Leepotism

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The guessing starts. Who will volunteer to withdraw? At least one of the them has to withdraw to stand a chance of winning against Tony Tan.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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Goh Meng Seng,

You are very wrong!

When Ong teng cheong contested against "who is that guy i forgot his what chua what name" way back in the first PE, he only scored 55% of the vote. This is against a popular parliamentary election vote of 65% for the PAP.

Now that the PAP parliamenatry vote share is only 60%, you can expect TT to get 50% or even less. People are willing to vote for a non PAP candidate because they want to send a signal to PAP that they want the president to be as free from executive inclination as possible.

DUH!



Any straight fight, Tony Tan will win. This is based on the GE2011 results; meaning, if this Presidential Elections is to be fought as PAP vs Opposition, PAP will win about 60% or slightly less while the other "opposition proxy" will win about 40% plus minus.

It is important for TCB to stay in the game as he will split TT's votes. A three corner fight in this case is the best chance to take TT down. This is why PAP decided to make it a four corner fight.

Goh Meng Seng
 
Z

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If only approve TCB and TT, TT may lose. Because TCB may get 30-40% of the PAP votes, plus oppo votes. Throw in the other 2 to split oppo votes and pin down TCB, TT wil win.

i was telling gms that his reasoning does not look good .... :biggrin:

but TCB to get 30-40% PAP votes (plus oppo votes)?? I don't know.. maybe that is too good to be true?..
 

jw5

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If only approve TCB and TT, TT may lose. Because TCB may get 30-40% of the PAP votes, plus oppo votes. Throw in the other 2 to split oppo votes and pin down TCB, TT wil win.

I agree with this.
But if it was just TT vs TKL, the latter may not get too many pappy votes.
He might even lose some opposition votes.
I know of at least one. :o
 
Z

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The EP floodgate is open to future senior civil servants and not fund managers.
PAP wants to keep the door open in case PAP needs to field senior civil servants.

floodgate open.... maybe any prawn or crab can come in...

but fund manager is the first fish that swam through.... :biggrin:
 
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