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whoami

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You cannot discuss about Islam openly as cracks may reveal it's weakness. The clerics livelihood depends on them falsifying reality.
Rituals for example are not written or if in the Quran are in a very vague form. But muslims will say its mandatory. When in actual fact, its not.

Muslims follows the teaching fm the Quran n hadiths. If ritual need to be done so be it. Its Allah azzawajal commandment.
 

whoami

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Its not my bible. But yes. Both are written by humans. The leaders (romans or caliphs) realised its easier to control the population if they adhere to a religion.

Dont be a hypocrite. Kip picking on the Muslims. Admit ur a xtian. No worry. U sin or lie will be forgiven. As christ died for ur sin.

Ur hypothesis on the romans may be right. But not Islam. Islam fm Allah azzawajal. Whereas theres no "xtianity" found in the bible
 
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syed putra

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Dont be a hypocrite. Kip picking on the Muslims. Admit ur a xtian.

Ur hypothesis on the romans may be right. But not Islam. Islam fm Allah azzawajal. Whereas theres no "xtianity" found in the bible
Thats because you get your ideas from only one source. If you read more about middle eastern history, then you maybe enlighten and set yourself free.
 

whoami

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Thats because you get your ideas from only one source. If you read more about middle eastern history, then you maybe enlighten and set yourself free.

I rather get ideas fm the Creator than fm HIS creation. My passport to paradise is to follow the teachg of Holy Quran.
 

syed putra

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Just to remind that Indonesia's new capital will be at kutai kartanegara in kalimantan. Site of the old capital of the hindu kingdom of kutai.
 

JohnTan

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Thats because you get your ideas from only one source. If you read more about middle eastern history, then you maybe enlighten and set yourself free.

Getting ideas from other sources is blasphemous to moslems. If you do so, you must be a kafir. Or worse, a christian!! LOL

If you get ideas from other sources, you will immediately smell bullshit when someone offers you 72 virgins in paradise if you follow their religion faithfully.
 
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JohnTan

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The books were written by humans.

Muslims believe and at the same time, reject the idea that their quran was written by humans. They want to accord their quran the highest ultra divine status, so the idea that the quran was written by humans is blasphemous. Yet, the hard truth is that the quran was never compiled in the lifetime of their founder muhammad. It was compiled decades after his death, from a scattering of his speeches written down by various people at that time. You can treat it like a canonization of his speeches, just like how the various books of the Bible were assembled by the leading priests of the day to form today's Bible.
 

Nice-Gook

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Just to remind that Indonesia's new capital will be at kutai kartanegara in kalimantan. Site of the old capital of the hindu kingdom of kutai.
Ok,for folks who want to know more ..Kutai Negara is a regency with many towns ...myself very very familiar with the area...the new capital is said to be between Balikpapan and Samarinda ..had rode through the only winding road many times too Nothing but forested area except some dayaks villages here and there ...the forest once had huge fire and you would see an entire trees in burnt charcoal studs ...it’s also huge orang utan habitat

now ,Balikpapan is an oil town ...the cleanest city in Indonesia...mostly expats ...very little crime ..direct flight to Singapore...lovely place but pricey

Samarinda is a cow boy town and a former timber town ...quite seedy .. in the past I could only access by charter. flight the 4 seater typos

the peculiarity of these region is contract marriages ...in short if you are stationed for 4 months there than a marriage is possible for only 4 months where a fixed amount is agreed upon ...of course you have to up front lah
 

syed putra

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the peculiarity of these region is contract marriages ...in short if you are stationed for 4 months there than a marriage is possible for only 4 months where a fixed amount is agreed upon ...of course you have to up front lah
With dayak ladies?
I was told the girls in singkawang are famed for their beauties..
One company had a oil tanker hijacked off singapore and sailed to balik papan under a new name. But unknown to hijacker, it had satellite tracking.
Ship was seized by local police and hijackers arrested. They wanted ship as evidence in court so cannot sail out. Need to settle with army to get it free. Ship still fully loaded with diesel.
Ended up after Nego, settle usd30k thereabouts. Split 3 ways between shipowner, oil company and insurance.
 

syed putra

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Muslims believe and at the same time, reject the idea that their quran was written by humans. They want to accord their quran the highest ultra divine status, so the idea that the quran was written by humans is blasphemous. Yet, the hard truth is that the quran was never compiled in the lifetime of their founder muhammad. It was compiled decades after his death, from a scattering of his speeches written down by various people at that time. You can treat it like a canonization of his speeches, just like how the various books of the Bible were assembled by the leading priests of the day to form today's Bible.
Yes. But you see, the Quran starts with
With God’s name, the gracious, the merciful

2:1 A.L.M. 2:2 That Book is without doubt - in it - a guide - for those who are observant 2:3 Those who trust with the unseen and they uphold the commitments - and from what We provided to them - they contributed 2:4 And they trust with what is transmitted to you and what was transmitted from before you, and with the hereafter - they are positively certain. 2:5 They are - over the guidance from their Lord - and they are - the ones who benefit.


Mohamad would not have said anything about any book as he had no plans for one.
 

Nice-Gook

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With dayak ladies?
I was told the girls in singkawang are famed for their beauties..
One company had a oil tanker hijacked off singapore and sailed to balik papan under a new name. But unknown to hijacker, it had satellite tracking.
Ship was seized by local police and hijackers arrested. They wanted ship as evidence in court so cannot sail out. Need to settle with army to get it free. Ship still fully loaded with diesel.
Ended up after Nego, settle usd30k thereabouts. Split 3 ways between shipowner, oil company and insurance.
Ok first thing first Dayak ladies are indeed lovely ones ...they are not materialistic ...but locals don’t want to mess with them because was told if they like you would be charmed by them ...don’t know how true ..,the contract marriages are serviced by ladies from all over Indonesia since Kalimantan is inhabited mostly by floating population...gels from Bali most into it .,,never seen Kutai lasses into it either .,,a lot of local pride

now one must understand Balikpapan is very developed port city and its policing is too notch ..,maybe hicjaket heading to open loading area ..and if Indo navy is involved they don’t go for Peanuts ...30k is peanuts...believe me
 
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