Taiwan belong to China or Japan?

[tobelightlight]

China rejects treaty that defined Taiwan’s status, accidentally reviving Japan’s pre-1951 claim

The San Francisco Peace Treaty clearly states that Japan renounced Taiwan but did not transfer it to China or any other country.

This means Taiwan’s legal status was intentionally left “undetermined,” and Japan only gave up its claim without handing sovereignty to Beijing.

Because neither the PRC nor the ROC signed the treaty, neither government was assigned ownership of Taiwan through its terms.

That is why the United States and Japan have long held that the treaty does not award Taiwan to China.

Now China is declaring that same treaty “illegal and invalid,” claiming it was a US-made document used to divide countries after World War II.

But if the treaty is truly invalid, then Japan’s renunciation of Taiwan would also be invalidated.

Under China’s own logic, Taiwan would legally revert to its pre-1951 status, which places sovereignty back under Japan.

This is why Japanese social media is now laughing that China may have accidentally argued for Taiwan to be “returned” to Japan.

 

[tobelightlight]

CCP not very smart.

 

[syed putra]

Nope. Taiwan belongs to orang asli as attested by Portuguese and Dutch sailors who landed there 500 years ago

 

[Yumiko]

CCP not very smart.

Those idiots, LOL

 

[nabeifuckpap]

Qing dynasty gave up Taiwan and Korea to Japan and they had a fucking weak military up to world war 2 China still struggled to fight the Jap army on homeground which is totally fucked up plus Chinese civil war KMT vs CCP and it shows China never learned anything from the 1st Sino-Jap war

 

[eatshitndie]

Nope. Taiwan belongs to orang asli as attested by Portuguese and Dutch sailors who landed there 500 years ago

but exiled ming troops under koxinga defeated the dutch occupiers with help from tw natives and took over the island as a refuge for former ming sailors and soldiers since the mainland was taken over by manchus. and natives accepted as de facto ruler of tw. there’s even a shrine preserved for him in tainan.

 

[Semaj2357]

but exiled ming troops under koxinga defeated the dutch occupiers with help from tw natives and took over the island as a refuge for former ming sailors and soldiers since the mainland was taken over by manchus. and natives accepted as de facto ruler of tw. there’s even a shrine preserved for him in tainan.

Nope. Taiwan belongs to orang asli as attested by Portuguese and Dutch sailors who landed there 500 years ago

hanor, all's fair in love and war and where the malays, indian and tiong ab-hori-gins have a fair share of it - else it would'nt be called ali, shanti and ku-niang. it's said that "to the victor goes the spoils", but there's no amdk with that name there

 

[eatshitndie]

hanor, all's fair in love and war and where the malays, indian and tiong ab-hori-gins have a fair share of it - else it would'nt be called ali, shanti and ku-niang. it's said that "to the victor goes the spoils", but there's no amdk with that name there

the portuguese could claim “formosa” but now that name is forgotten after it forms moss and becums a mosa (portuguese for big strong native woman with lots of hair or moss).

 

[Semaj2357]

the portuguese could claim “formosa” but now that name is forgotten after it forms moss and becums a mosa (portuguese for big strong native woman with lots of hair or moss).

hanor, instead of calling those hairy, mossy, voluptuous native obese types that frequent sbf here ; "fermented formosans", "fatfugs" or "big bertha", they can be known as sammy "samossa's"

 

[laksaboy]

Taiwan is an independent sovereign country with its own government, currency and passport.

 

[ftan42]

Taiwan's status cannot be fully examined without considering Article 8 of the Cairo Declaration within the Potsdam Declaration, as it is a pivotal element in the discussion of Taiwan's position.

 

[Papsmearer]

Taiwan belong to KMT

 

[ftan42]

The moment Japan surrendered in September 1945 and accepted the Instrument of Surrender along with Article 8 of the Cairo Declaration within the Potsdam Declaration, the fate of Taiwan was decided. However, due to the Chinese Civil War between the CCP and KMT following World War II, both parties were preoccupied with their internal conflict. The San Francisco Peace Treaty of 1951 occurred well after 1945 but keeps using it. Among other issues, such as the Ryukyu matter, which will not complicate here.

 

[k1976]

Nope. Taiwan belongs to orang asli as attested by Portuguese and Dutch sailors who landed there 500 years ago

A-Mei tribe lah

 

[syed putra]

Taiwan is an independent sovereign country with its own government, currency and passport.

British mandated palestine used to have all that but its of no use now.

 

[syed putra]

but exiled ming troops under koxinga defeated the dutch occupiers with help from tw natives and took over the island as a refuge for former ming sailors and soldiers since the mainland was taken over by manchus. and natives accepted as de facto ruler of tw. there’s even a shrine preserved for him in tainan.

Koxinga it seems had a japanese mum and was born in japan which makes him a non chinese.

 

[eatshitndie]

Koxinga it seems had a japanese mum and was born in japan which makes him a non chinese.

still chink as father was ming official then defected to qing. koxinga steadfastly remained loyal to ming until his untimely death trying to invade luzon to destroy the spaniards after defeat of the dutch. very complicated family. his jap mother died in xiamen when qing invaded. father died a qing loyalist after switching sides. his elder son who was still young lost his virginity to his younger brother’s wet nurse. she must be quite a seductive milf. koxinga’s modern day descendants live in tiongcock (some joined qing and stayed in mainland) and taiwan (some moved to tw), and his younger brother remained in jippun and his descendants became japanese. the whole family tree is all over these 3 cuntries. it’s a matter of time before their descendants move to usa, own guns, join the militia, eat shit and die off.