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Cheney rips Obama over Iran drone capture


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By David Jackson, USA TODAY
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Iran's capture of a U.S. surveillance drone has revived the feud between President Obama and former Vice President Dick Cheney.

Cheney criticized Obama for merely asking Iran to return the drone, telling Erin Burnett of CNN last night that he should have ordered a air strike to destroy the U.S. spy plane; the vice president for George W. Bush also suggested he has sources who say Obama rejected a recommendation for such a strike.

"The right response to that would have been to go in immediately after it had gone down and destroy it," Cheney said. " You can do that from the air. You can do that with a quick airstrike, and, in effect, make it impossible for them to benefit from having captured that drone."

Cheney also said:

"I was told that the president had three options on his desk. He rejected all of them.

"They all involved sending somebody in, you know, to try to recover it or -- if you can't do that, and admittedly, that'd be a difficult operation -- you certainly could have gone in and destroyed it on the ground with an air strike.

But he didn't take any of the options. He asked nicely for them to return it and they aren't gonna do that."

Obama and aides have declined to comment in detail on the drone case, citing national security concerns.

Asked about the incident yesterday, Obama said:

With respect to the drone inside of Iran, I'm not going to comment on intelligence matters that are classified.

As has already been indicated, we have asked for it back. We'll see how the Iranians respond.
 
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20111213/API/1112130594

Iran shrugs off US request to return spy drone

By NASSER KARIMI
Associated Press
Published: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 at 5:50 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 at 5:50 a.m.

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's defense minister on Tuesday shrugged off a U.S. request for the return of an American spy drone captured by Iranian armed forces and instead demanded an apology from Washington.
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This photo released on Thursday, Dec. 8, 2011, by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, claims to show US RQ-170 Sentinel drone which Tehran says its forces downed earlier this week, as the chief of the aerospace division of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, right, listens to an unidentified colonel, in an undisclosed location, Iran. (AP Photo/Sepahnews) EDS NOTE: THE ASSOCIATED PRESS HAS NO WAY OF INDEPENDENTLY VERIFYING THE CONTENT, LOCATION OR DATE OF THIS IMAGE.

Tehran last week identified the drone as the RQ-170 Sentinel and said it was captured over the country's east. The nearly intact drone was displayed on state TV and flaunted as a victory for Iran in a complicated intelligence and technological battle with the U.S.

"Their plane invaded Iran and Iranian forces reacted powerfully," said Defense Minister Gen. Ahmad Vahidi "Now, instead of offering an apology to the Iranian nation, they impudently ask for the return of the plane."

U.S. officials say the unmanned aircraft malfunctioned and was not brought down by Iran. President Barack Obama said Monday the U.S. wants the top-secret aircraft back and has delivered a formal request for the return of the surveillance drone, though it isn't hopeful that Iran will comply.

Vahidi said the United States should apologize for invading Iranian air space instead of asking for drone back.

"Iran will defend its stance and interests strongly," Vahidi said in remarks carried by the semi-official Mehr news agency.

Hours after Obama announced the request, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad underscored his nation's defiance.

"The Americans have perhaps decided to give us this spy plane," Ahmadinejad said in an interview broadcast live Monday night on Venezuelan state television. "We now have control of this plane."

Also Tuesday, Iranian lawmaker Hamid Rasaei told an open session of the Iranian parliament that the drone is staying in Iran, calling it a "war booty."

Later, 186 lawmakers in the 290-seat assembly issued a statement condemning the "invasion" and urging the international community to take a stance toward the "dangerous act" by the U.S.

Meanwhile, state TV said Obama's demand for the drone's return puts the U.S. in the role of "the beggar" over the issue.

There are concerns in the U.S. that others may be able to reverse-engineer the chemical composition of the drone's radar-deflecting paint or the aircraft's sophisticated optics technology that allows operators to positively identify terror suspects from tens of thousands of feet in the air.

There are also worries that adversaries may be able to hack into the drone's database, although it is not clear whether any data could be recovered. Some surveillance technologies allow video to stream through to operators on the ground but do not store much collected data. If they do, it is encrypted.

On Monday, another lawmaker, Parviz Sorouri, claimed Iranian experts were in the final stages of recovering data from the captured drone.
 
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3 Dec, 2011, 05.26PM IST, IANS
Iran dismisses request for return of US drone

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TEHRAN: Iran has dismissed a request from the US that Tehran return a spy drone that crashed in the country.

Iran announced Dec 4 it had downed an RQ-170 Sentinel drone of the US in the Tabas desert in the country's eastern region. Tehran has claimed it hacked into the unmanned aircraft causing it to crash. The US says a technological malfunction was the cause.

Defence Minister Gen. Ahmad Vahidi said the US should apologise for invading Iranian air space rather than asking for the return of the drone, the Mehr news agency reported Tuesday.

US President Barack Obama had announced Monday that a formal request for the return of the drone would be made to Iran. However, he said he was not very hopeful that Iran would comply.

Parviz Sorouri, a member of the Iranian parliament's National Security and Foreign Affairs Commission, said the drone's computer code is being copied.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...intelligence/2011/12/13/gIQArGeLrO_story.html

Obama appeals to Iran to give back downed US top-secret drone, won’t comment on intelligence

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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has delivered a formal request to Iran for the return of a U.S. surveillance drone captured by Iranian armed forces, but said it is not hopeful that Iran will comply.

President Barack Obama said Monday that the U.S. wants the top-secret aircraft back. “We have asked for it back. We’ll see how the Iranians respond,” Obama said during a White House news conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Monday.

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In an interview broadcast live Monday night on Venezuelan state television, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said nothing to suggest his country would grant the U.S. request.

“The Americans have perhaps decided to give us this spy plane,” Ahmadinejad said. “We now have control of this plane.”

Speaking through an interpreter, Ahmadinejad said: “There are people here who have been able to control this spy plane, who can surely analyze this plane’s system also. ... In any case, now we have this spy plane.”

He added, “Very soon, they’re going to learn more about the abilities and possibilities of our country.”

On Tuesday, a semi-official Iranian news agency said authorities have shrugged off the U.S. request. Defense Minister Gen. Ahmad Vahidi said the United States should apologize for invading Iranian air space instead of asking for the return of the unmanned aircraft.

Obama wouldn’t comment on what the Iranians might learn from studying the downed aircraft. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said it’s difficult to know “just frankly how much they’re going to be able to get from having obtained those parts.”

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Panetta said they’re not optimistic about getting the drone back because of recent Iranian behavior that Clinton said indicated “that the path that Iran seems to be going down is a dangerous one for themselves and the region.”

“We submitted a formal request for the return of our lost equipment as we would in any situation to any government around the world,” Clinton told reporters at a State Department news conference with British Foreign Secretary William Hague.

“Given Iran’s behavior to date we do not expect them to comply but we are dealing with all of these provocations and concerning actions taken by Iran in close concert with our closest allies and partners,” she said.

Panetta said the request to return the drone was appropriate. “I don’t expect that that will happen,” he said. “But I think it’s important to make that request.”

Neither Obama nor Clinton would provide details of the drone request, but diplomatic exchanges between Washington to Tehran are often handled by Switzerland, which represents U.S. interests in Iran. The State Department said Monday that the Swiss ambassador to Iran met with Iranian foreign ministry officials last week but refused to say what they discussed.

Iran TV reported earlier Monday that Iranian experts were in the final stages of recovering data from the RQ-170 Sentinel, which went down in Iran earlier this month. Tehran has cited the capture as a victory for Iran and displayed the nearly intact drone on state TV. U.S. officials say the aircraft malfunctioned and was not brought down by Iran.

Despite the incident, Clinton said the administration and its allies would continue to push Iran to engage over its nuclear program while at the same time increasing pressure on the regime with new, enhanced sanctions.

“We obviously believe strongly in a diplomatic approach. We want to see the Iranians engage and, as you know, we have attempted to bring about that engagement over the course of the last three-plus years. It has not proven effective, but we are not giving up on it,” she said.

Standing beside Clinton, Hague agreed.

“We’re not giving up on engagement with Iran, but on a number of occasions Iran has behaved in a way in recent weeks and months which has intensified confrontation with the rest of the world,” he said. “We have seen an increasing predilection for dangerous and illegal adventures on the part of at least parts of the Iranian regime.”

Clinton and Hague referred to the storming of British diplomatic compounds in Tehran, allegations that Iran tried to arrange the assassination of the Saudi ambassador to the United States, Iran’s ongoing support for militant groups and its continued defiance of demands to prove its nuclear program is peaceful.

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Associated Press writers Ian James and Fabiola Sanchez in Venezuela contributed to this report.

Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 
The consequences of Pentagon budget cut.

They are supposed to fly the drones in pairs (buddy system)
so that one will cover for the other in case of malfunction or attack.

The buddy can either blow up the faulty drone or keep track of last position/intact landing.

There could be a design flaw as well.
Eg the single engine F-16 is another design flaw!
 
The consequences of Pentagon budget cut.

They are supposed to fly the drones in pairs (buddy system)
so that one will cover for the other in case of malfunction or attack.

The buddy can either blow up the faulty drone or keep track of last position/intact landing.

There could be a design flaw as well.
Eg the single engine F-16 is another design flaw!

That shit 10 million bugs spy plane is unarmed. How to cover each other?

If they had flown 2 BOTH would be captured for sure.

Iran had deployed latest Russian GPS deception network last month. North Koreans have some older systems too. What it does it jams GPS with calculated false signals to make the enemy go round and round about the same spot. Drones are not the only victims. In Korean-US joint exercise NK forced their piloted planes to land on civilian roads after failing to navigate to airbase and out of fuel.

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