Starlets: We Didn't Dare to Reject Jack Neo...

[Watchman]

 

[IR123]

Facts of the case as presented to the public:

Two years ago: Jack Neo and Wendy Chong entered willingly to an affair.

One year ago: Jack's wife found out about it

One year ago: Jack tried to end his relationship with Wendy. Wendy attempted?/threatened? suicide to keep Jack by her side.

Recently: Wendy went to Jack's house to tell his wife about the affair.

More recently: Wendy claimed she was sexually harrassed.​

Side-points:

(1) If sexual harrassment is proved, then it is a crime. However Wendy willingly accepted the sexual harrassment for two whole years.

(2) If suicide was attempted by Wendy, then that is already a crime.​

Main point:

Wendy claimed sexual harrassment only after she failed in her attempt at breaking up Jack's marriage.​

The Women Charter protects women and in some cases, justifiably so. However the Law should not be abused by women to make false accusations against men.

Thus in cases where it can be proven that men are unjustly accused of sexual harrassment as a revenge motive, the Law should impose a deterrent sentence.

Just as the rights of Women should be protected, the rights of Men too should be protected against false accusations.

 

[IR123]

she looks happy

 

[Watchman]

she looks happy

 

[IR123]

......

comparing the two photographs, here, he looks happy, maybe it's the lighting

 

[elephanto]

After my run-in with Chaopappypoodle & reading this thread for the first time, I realise I should not have gotten personal with him. That was a major distraction.

On arguments & POV, I sure hold a very sound position. Gratified to read very cogent arguments cratfed by bros here - from IR123, kingrant, rameth, littlefish, po2wq etc.

I quote my favourites in the following with my own comments attached.

Chaopappypoodle, please I am not hitting on you & refusing to let go, simply reverting to the usual fair exchange of views albeit still on the same
subject.

A load of rubbish.
Wendy made it sound like she is innocent. If Jack leave his wife for her, would Wendy complain? Since Jack did not leave his wife, now Wendy is complaining of sexual harrassment.

This to me is a GEM.
If Wendy today is still happily involved with Jack Neo, will she appreciate the likes of Chaopappypoodle & their views ? After all, when there is no more victim, where is the crime ?

What makes you think that just because the girls have sex with him, that they must be victims? All that proves is that Jack is a philanderer.
The girls can also be willing parties.
How did you come to the conclusion that they must be victims?

This possibility the detractors vehemently refused to consider. Not that objective, surely.

If you swallow the garbage Wendy and other broads cough out, then you are an absolutely naive idiot. Not only in the film industry, every corporation has its buayas and wolves. Not happy , can always not join or get out.

I am not a PAP supporter and have my own reasons for ranting against it. But I dont see how PAP is involved here. Just because GY came out to ask people to rally around him and his family makes the whole PAP a culprit for sexual harassment? I'd rather think pigs can fly. Aw, c'mon! LOL.

Very fair, very brave, very spot on. But automatically piss off hardened & blind anti-PAP hate corps mightily & is a magnet for flames. sigh... In the whole forum, only kingrant dare make this priceless statement.

If you are saying that I am not a lawyer, you are right. What I do know is that a willing party to a failed transaction cannot claim it is sexual harrassment.

Second point: There is no need to discuss. I am not here to change anyone's moral viewpoint or perception of what is right or wrong. I state merely my own viewpoint and that is Wendy Chong is wrong.

This is positively my favourite. I notice a lot of rage in Chaopappypoodle whenever he respond to views not palatable to him. Just as I do not wish to change his moral viewpoint, he can achieve a paradigm shift by not trying so hard to change others' moral viewpoint to match his. Isn't that only fair & sane ?

The remedies are ready and obvious, ain't it? Reject his physical advances, failing that resign and/or call police.

So Uncommon common sense.

Wendy and yr mollycoddled friends can always resign and work elsewhere, that is unless they are so desperate there is no other place to be. Nobody forces you to work with jack neo. So dont go about trying to be a moral vigilante changing the world. Jack Neo's company is his company, and unless any crime is committed, your zealousness isnt going to cause a dent. Yr chicken lickens should walk off his premises and tell others to avoid him too. If your little chicken frens don't walk with their feet, then don't come here and KPKB about dirty bosses, sexual harassment etc etc. When they are fucked, don't start screaming foul.

Another GEM. The world is the world with its share of gd & evil. There are laws , there are legal loopholes & also good old common sense.

Every person who can, should exercise conscious control of their faculties & ultimately is responsible for their own saftety / interest. This is a motherhood statement.

And she did. And allow the monster to continue his ways on other victims?
Like I said, Wendy should be applauded as well as those that have come forward. I knew of his ways but I never expected so many victims to come forward. And we all know that many more are still ashamed to come forward or just prefer to keep their silence.

First & foremost, my sympathies to your friend. Glad she CHOSE to walk.
So one can totally understand the extend of your moral indignation.

And more than once, you have claimed here & elsewhere, you have known the truth about Jack Neo for 10 years or more.

Given your moral stance, pray tell why based on your knowledge & especially a clear-cut sexual harrassment case of your friend in your view, did you NOT make a stand for your moral beliefs & for your friend either by going to the police or writing to public forum ?

This non-action despite knowledge does not amount to moral abetment ? As juxtaposed against your energetic 'correction' of forummers honest comments here ?

Paradox, irony or worse ?

I guess in the final analysis, we can all agree to disagree.
But cease & desist from the moralizing ticking off of others under the guise of civilised exchange of POVs.

 

[kaipoh]

are you encourage AWARE to intervene the jackass's saga to protect the feminine? The AWARE is not wayany party!

The Women Charter protects women and in some cases, justifiably so. However the Law should not be abused by women to make false accusations against men.

Thus in cases where it can be proven that men are unjustly accused of sexual harrassment as a revenge motive, the Law should impose a deterrent sentence.

Just as the rights of Women should be protected, the rights of Men too should be protected against false accusations.

 

[kingrant]

You want to sound as if you know the insides of Media industry and those inside mediacorp. If you claim to know so much and so many things, how come you didnt know Wendy was going to his wife? How come you dont know GY was abt to nominate JN for his GRC?

Balls you know anything! You only know the security guard, maybe also the office cleaners, or the tea lady. Empty vessels make the most noise!

I typed the following in another thread but I think it is important that I also post it here.

The person that I knew who was harassed by the jackass wasn't a starlet or someone wanting to be an actress. There are more people in the entertainment industry who work behind the cameras.

Also, the J-team does a lot of documentaries and not just movies. There are researchers, lighting personnel, editing staff, soundman etc etc. Many of these people have no interest to be stars. They just wanted to earn a decent living.

The Jackass makes no distinction between starlets or resarch staff etc. As long as you are under his power, he feels he has a right to sexually harass you.

So take note, not all his victims were people who wanted to be stars. At least one that I know of just wanted a job to make documentaries from behind the camera.

 

[Watchman]

 

[Areopagus]

Check out this video on women in the workplace:
http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/03/12/forehead_tittaes/index.html