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Fook Seng

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makapaaa said:
Those two claims ignore the law and the reason behind the law. There is a reason the Singapore Constitution does not prescribe any time limit to call a by-election.

Our parliamentary democracy is based on the principle that elections are fundamentally about voters choosing between different political parties to lead the country, rather than between individual candidates standing in a constituency. In general elections, the issue is which party should form the government.
Hence, under our system, if any Member of Parliament (MP) resigns or is expelled from his party, he loses his seat because voters had elected him as a representative of his party. Therefore, when a seat falls vacant, there is no requirement to call an immediate by-election, unless the vacancy affects the Government’s mandate.
There are only two possible reasons why no time limit was given to call a bye-election and neither of them can be taken to imply that the PM has the unconditional right not to call for a bye-election.

First, it was a simple act of careless omission. Second, it was a deliberate act of omission, giving the ruling party the advantage of picking the most appropriate time to call the by-election or even to argue whether there should be one or not. If the reason for having no time limit was so clear as to give the PM the right whether to call a by-election, it would have been fully debated in parliament and duly recorded.

The other misperception that has often been paraded to gain advantage in argument is that the parties and not individual members are voted into parliament. This is ridiculous as MPs are elected on their right, although under party banners. This is true in all democratic elections in the world and Singapore is no exception. The party labeling only determines which party earns the right to rule.

Once voted into parliament, the MPs cast their votes as individuals. Nothing in the Constitution says they must vote along party lines. If there is any explicit thing that need to be said about this in the Constitution, it would in fact be the opposite. As a result, any MP's vote is important in the law-making in the country. The sooner a by-election is held the better.
 

HTOLAS

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Israel, after which some of our institutions are modelled, conducts elections even when there is a war going on. Are there more pressing national issues than a war?

Switzerland, which we aspired to be, practises direct democracy which requires them to conduct referenda on all major pieces of legislation. Have they ever cited the excuse of "pressing national matters" to avoid this?

LHL may not be lying - maybe he really CANNOT handle politics.
 

streetsmart73

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If a government cannot hold a simple by-election as part of a democratic process, even in the midst of the most heavily loaded agenda, how good is that government? This kind of arguments cut no ice with the present or even older generations. People only believe real reason, not some concocted reason.



hi there


1. tsk tsk tsk!
2.just another barking sheep barking after receiving specific instruments from its grand masters.
3. what bris model leh?
 

myfoot123

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Oh ya, the letter came from Hri Kumar might be the trigger point for more lost in GRCs in future. People who have strong stake in Singapore cannot allow and swallow such unreasonable argument from him. It proves PAP is petty, sick and irresponsible. These is enough to cause the downfall of PAP that people all over the world will applaud.
 

batman1

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Oh ya, the letter came from Hri Kumar might be the trigger point for more lost in GRCs in future. People who have strong stake in Singapore cannot allow and swallow such unreasonable argument from him. It proves PAP is petty, sick and irresponsible. These is enough to cause the downfall of PAP that people all over the world will applaud.

Who the fark is this Hri Kumar ?He talk like he is a big shot in singapore politics .Ask him go ECP and fly kite lah.KNNCCB to the Pests And Parasites !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

scroobal

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Though many of us would like to see by elections for the fireworks and the fun, there is going to be little material change for the residents of Hougang. The town council is run by WP and it will be business as usual. On the whole, Singapore is so small that nearly all faciltities such as MRT, housing policies, law and order are driven at a country level. WP will conitnue to provide cover as a team. PAP will not hold a by elections just to see it lose. Pointless talking about this.
 

Fook Seng

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streetsmart73 said:
hi there

1. tsk tsk tsk!
2.just another barking sheep barking after receiving specific instruments from its grand masters.
3. what bris model leh?

Good try. Unfortunately I have no grandmaster. You have got it all wrong. On the other hand you seem to have a grandmaster. You judge things on its position not on its logic.
 

Fook Seng

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scroobal said:
Though many of us would like to see by elections for the fireworks and the fun, there is going to be little material change for the residents of Hougang. The town council is run by WP and it will be business as usual. On the whole, Singapore is so small that nearly all faciltities such as MRT, housing policies, law and order are driven at a country level. WP will conitnue to provide cover as a team. PAP will not hold a by elections just to see it lose. Pointless talking about this.

It's their choice to miss the chance, if not to win back a constituency but at least to demonstrate fairness and fearlessness.
 

scroobal

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Agree. It does reflect poorly on the PAP. They should attempt to give good fight. What they will certainly do is saturate and work the ground.
It's their choice to miss the chance, if not to win back a constituency but at least to demonstrate fairness and fearlessness.
 

zhihau

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Fair and fearless are 2 traits absent from the MIWs

bro,

you're being unfair. the pioneering batch of vanguard are fearless, else we wouldn't be where we are. folks like Hon S.S, Lee K.C, Goh K.S, etc deserved to be called fearless, no?
 

Narong Wongwan

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bro,

you're being unfair. the pioneering batch of vanguard are fearless, else we wouldn't be where we are. folks like Hon S.S, Lee K.C, Goh K.S, etc deserved to be called fearless, no?
Heroes don't live off past glories.
 
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Ramseth

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Who the fark is this Hri Kumar ?He talk like he is a big shot in singapore politics .Ask him go ECP and fly kite lah.KNNCCB to the Pests And Parasites !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He was the Davinder Singh legal assistant who served CSJ the letter of demand at Bukit Gombak Stadium Rally 2001. He looked like a clown in a courier advertisement.
 
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He was the Davinder Singh legal assistant who served CSJ the letter of demand at Bukit Gombak Stadium Rally 2001. He looked like a clown in a courier advertisement.



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Using the rule of elimination

from the pool of 23k voters and the

14k voters , excl spoiled votes , who voted for Yao they

more or less know the profile of

the opp voters. Should use info

to their advantage ...
 
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