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[SONG BOH] NTU upholds zero grade for student accused of using AI in essay; panel found 14 false citations or data
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How an AI accusation by NTU ruined my degree - and how no one in the school helped
https://www.domainofexperts.com/2025/06/how-ai-accusation-by-ntu-ruined-my.html
NTU intentionally misrepresents students to evade accountability in AI case
https://www.domainofexperts.com/2025/06/ntu-intentionally-misrepresents.html
https://www.domainofexperts.com/2025/06/how-ai-accusation-by-ntu-ruined-my.html
NTU intentionally misrepresents students to evade accountability in AI case
https://www.domainofexperts.com/2025/06/ntu-intentionally-misrepresents.html
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1. There are NUMEROUS forms of so called AI in the market today. There is NO definitive so called MASTER AI in this World, as AI is based upon ALGORITHMS - seemingly complex mathematical equations.
However, on planet Earth, NO mortal is perfect, thus as such algorithms are created by flawed Humans, others will create their own sets and touted by currently BIG IT firms that they are the best, which they are not.
Worse still, with the development of GENERATIVE AI, such programs at some point will hubristically presume that it is better than lifeforms, more so when one gives PROMPTS from the SAME IP Address, and decides to play games with the PROMPTER, gives ridiculous answers, etc....such as happened and evident even in the best educational and research institutions whereby creators found out the created AI were amazingly COMMUNICATING with each other, worse still in a programing lingo UNKNOWN to Humankind......
2. At the basic level of Algorithms, HOW PRECISE a MASTER AI can be is based upon the number of figures after a DECIMAL point.
Put simply as an example, Humankind only knows that "πr²" (pi * radius squared) is the formula for the area of a circle. It represents the space enclosed within a circle. The formula uses the constant pi (approximately 3.14)
However, for PRECISION, there is NO such thing as APPROXIMITY. Even today, the numbers after that decimal point RUNS TO TRILLIONS of digits......
3. Current multitudes of AI in the market are only created by big AI tech firms. However, they are not and never will be the MASTER AI, as such attempts to be a master of all, but NO mortal can build such a system, as PRECISION in algorithms will be limited, thus at times gives flawed answers to different prompts posed.
As the FREE market is huge, it is still up to upcoming creators to create a niche market for survivability and careers, thru creating SPECIFIC AI modules to be PRECISE in specific roles than to become mere AI agents for a supposed big IT firm so called Master AI
4. While AI can travel at the speed of light thru electrical cables connected to information highways such as the internet, Humankind has YET to see the power of Quantum AI, which can BREAK thru any encoded systems SILENTLY within less than 100 secs, and trawl for information, using its algorithms that can compute trillions of digits after a decimal point for precision on an ordered task, within less than milli-seconds. .
Fortunately, such Quantum processors are complex to build, and only a few exists, which one can count by one's fingers on just one hand.... May such never be allowed to be GENERATIVE, or else Humanity will have a problem, or problems....
5. To return back to the thread, perhaps those students were using sub standard AI programs, free or purchased in markets, and thus were easily found out, just as how some whom touted Chatgpt have the answers to sue others without engaging learned lawyers for assistance....
However, on planet Earth, NO mortal is perfect, thus as such algorithms are created by flawed Humans, others will create their own sets and touted by currently BIG IT firms that they are the best, which they are not.
Worse still, with the development of GENERATIVE AI, such programs at some point will hubristically presume that it is better than lifeforms, more so when one gives PROMPTS from the SAME IP Address, and decides to play games with the PROMPTER, gives ridiculous answers, etc....such as happened and evident even in the best educational and research institutions whereby creators found out the created AI were amazingly COMMUNICATING with each other, worse still in a programing lingo UNKNOWN to Humankind......
2. At the basic level of Algorithms, HOW PRECISE a MASTER AI can be is based upon the number of figures after a DECIMAL point.
Put simply as an example, Humankind only knows that "πr²" (pi * radius squared) is the formula for the area of a circle. It represents the space enclosed within a circle. The formula uses the constant pi (approximately 3.14)
However, for PRECISION, there is NO such thing as APPROXIMITY. Even today, the numbers after that decimal point RUNS TO TRILLIONS of digits......
3. Current multitudes of AI in the market are only created by big AI tech firms. However, they are not and never will be the MASTER AI, as such attempts to be a master of all, but NO mortal can build such a system, as PRECISION in algorithms will be limited, thus at times gives flawed answers to different prompts posed.
As the FREE market is huge, it is still up to upcoming creators to create a niche market for survivability and careers, thru creating SPECIFIC AI modules to be PRECISE in specific roles than to become mere AI agents for a supposed big IT firm so called Master AI
4. While AI can travel at the speed of light thru electrical cables connected to information highways such as the internet, Humankind has YET to see the power of Quantum AI, which can BREAK thru any encoded systems SILENTLY within less than 100 secs, and trawl for information, using its algorithms that can compute trillions of digits after a decimal point for precision on an ordered task, within less than milli-seconds. .
Fortunately, such Quantum processors are complex to build, and only a few exists, which one can count by one's fingers on just one hand.... May such never be allowed to be GENERATIVE, or else Humanity will have a problem, or problems....
5. To return back to the thread, perhaps those students were using sub standard AI programs, free or purchased in markets, and thus were easily found out, just as how some whom touted Chatgpt have the answers to sue others without engaging learned lawyers for assistance....
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Fuck. Sinkies are like CECAs. A nation of cheats.
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The human brain is already a biological AI tool. Why is it wrong for this brain to learn how to gather and collate information from other AI tools?
Actually what makes their Final Thesis so special that NTU need to target them??
I am sure there are hundreds of students who submit thesis but why they so special?
Or the professor Sabrina Luk is bias against them to give zero score.
I was reading through their arguments , still not clear to me
I am sure there are hundreds of students who submit thesis but why they so special?
Or the professor Sabrina Luk is bias against them to give zero score.
I was reading through their arguments , still not clear to me
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Without using the good data set and correct data base cleansing…AI is just like a software parrot and “ctrl C n ctrl V” the output
Garbage in , Rubbish out
The issue is these students declared beforehand and yet being penalised, why? Furthermore, the thesis was supervised by a lecturer or professor, why the students were not warned by the supervisor?
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Too many missing puzzle. Did the zero grade really a surprise or they were warned ? Or they choose to go against the instructions of Professor?
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