So many FTs in Spore. If Spore at war with their countries, how??

[vtran2684]

it is a total different thing to massacre thousands of helpless and unarmed people in a short period.

short or long period Singapore has never been condemned

 

[enterprise2]

a war doesn't happen out of a sudden. there will be clear signs that a war is about to break out. at that stage, the majority of the FT would have get out of Singapore already. the Malaysians who haven't left Singapore will be rounded up and placed in prison camps. China apparently has 1 million citizens in Singapore. if the signs are clear that the war is certain to happen. China will send sea and air transports accompanied by military power to evacuate their 1 million citizens, and they would demand that Singapore and Malaysia to hold back their military operations until the evacuation is complete. don't think Singapore nor Malaysia will dare to start the war when the Chinese evacuation is ongoing. evacuate 1 million people ? how long would it take ?

even if it is just a limited scale battle like some air or sea battles or artillery strikes over the causeway. the region is still considered a war zone now. bet the vast majority of FT will still get out of Singapore.

R u nuts? Combations evacuating their nationals before battle can start ?? Where got such thing??countries fight and they may advice their nationals to vamoosh or stay at their own risks. The most they evacuate their embassy staff and other VIPs. The rest r on their own!! And another thing. If there is conflict, SAF will strike first. If we get hit first, it's game over!! So it will be fast and decisive and over before they knew what hit them!!

 

[Sideswipe]

R u nuts? Combations evacuating their nationals before battle can start ?? Where got such thing??countries fight and they may advice their nationals to vamoosh or stay at their own risks. The most they evacuate their embassy staff and other VIPs. The rest r on their own!!

the belligerent countries must be careful not to involve/implicate the foreign powers in the war. to my understanding, in the battle of Shanghai 1937, China and Japan gave the foreigners enough time to move from the Chinese area of the city to the foreign settlement of the city before they escalated the battle and fought an open war there.

 

[soikee]

Singapore is the only country in this region to have a successful and viable military conscription system. We do outnumber Indonesia and Malaysia. Can Malaysia or Indonesia field a combined invasion force of over 300,000 men? If they can't, we outnumber them and outgun them too, given our prudent investment in military spending.

All my comrades and I in NS have pledged that in the event of war, we'll follow LKY's footstep to betray the country by taking up arms to fight alongside with the invaders.

When the Japs invaded S'pore, LKY joined the feared Kempeitei Secret Police to slaughter tens of thousands of S'porean Chinese, we feel that it's okay for us to be traitors too.

 

[Papsmearer]

at that stage before the war, the majority of Malaysian citizens would have get out of Singapore already. Malaysia should have already told their citizens to get out of Singapore asap and the government will not be held responsible for the safety of those who choose to remain in Singapore albeit the very serious deteriorating situation. most likely that there would only be thousands, not hundreds of thousands prior to the rounding up of them in Singapore. with fewer than expected prisoners, we have much less bargaining chips for starters.

Singapore can threaten Malaysia with the lives of their citizens but Singapore can't really kill them in some sort of massacre, under most situations. if Singapore did that, we would face strong international condemnation for mass killing the helpless and unarmed prisoners. killing them albeit large-scale would drive the world public opinion against Singapore's cause, and we would find it very difficult to get the international material aid and strong moral support in the existing situation. don't think Singapore can afford to lose the war of world public opinion in the war.

The minute that the malaysians advice their citizens to get out is the same time you close the border and start rounding them up. As well, u freeze their bank accounts and seize their properties and assets. Their citizens can be released when they stand down their military and a UN Peacekeeping force arrives. If they shoot first, their hostage citizen dies. By shooting first, they are the aggressors. I don't care whether the world thinks its morally reprehensible to massacre hostages or not. I don;t care if public opinion is against singapore. Because if u lose the war, all the public opinion in the world may be in your favour, but it wouldn't bring your country back.

 

[winnipegjets]

The minute that the malaysians advice their citizens to get out is the same time you close the border and start rounding them up. As well, u freeze their bank accounts and seize their properties and assets. Their citizens can be released when they stand down their military and a UN Peacekeeping force arrives. If they shoot first, their hostage citizen dies. By shooting first, they are the aggressors. I don't care whether the world thinks its morally reprehensible to massacre hostages or not. I don;t care if public opinion is against singapore. Because if u lose the war, all the public opinion in the world may be in your favour, but it wouldn't bring your country back.

No advice will be given by Mudland ...most of the mudlanders here are Chinese, in any case. They will just launch their missiles ....1,000 missiles will end sinkapore. That attack must be condoned by the Indons.

 

[Papsmearer]

a war doesn't happen out of a sudden. there will be clear signs that a war is about to break out. at that stage, the majority of the FT would have get out of Singapore already. the Malaysians who haven't left Singapore will be rounded up and placed in prison camps. China apparently has 1 million citizens in Singapore. if the signs are clear that the war is certain to happen. China will send sea and air transports accompanied by military power to evacuate their 1 million citizens, and they would demand that Singapore and Malaysia to hold back their military operations until the evacuation is complete. don't think Singapore nor Malaysia will dare to start the war when the Chinese evacuation is ongoing. evacuate 1 million people ? how long would it take ?

even if it is just a limited scale battle like some air or sea battles or artillery strikes over the causeway. the region is still considered a war zone now. bet the vast majority of FT will still get out of Singapore.

U are exactly right in the assessment except for the part about the 2 countries holding hostility until China evacuates its citizens or other countries evacuate theirs. That is not going to happen. Each side will strike when they think it suits them. When hostilities are imminent, (maybe a little exchange of gun fire on the causeway, maybe the 2 navies have a little shoot out in the south china sea, etc.) and other countries will be telling their citizens to avoid singapore and malaysia, and to leave. there will be a stampede to get out. Only the rich and privilege will be able to get out on private jets and whatever airline flights are available. Imagine the largest airliner can take 550 passengers, and the average airliner maybe 200 passengers. You need thousands of flights in a very short time period to airlift out 2 million FTs, plus at any one time 300,000 tourists. To make it worse, All major airlines will stop flying here because their insurance coverage does not extend to a war zone or conflict zone. Same for ships. Unless the FTs have money, they will not be able to get out. the rest, and that means well over a million who don't have the money will have to wait for their countries to send their respective navies to sealift them out of singapore.

In fact, its to our advantage if non of the FTs leave at all. FTs comprise 40% of the population, which means that for every 100 people killed in any attacks by Malaysia, 40 of them will be citizens of other countries. Its a great hostage tool. I have long maintain that if you let in so many FTs, there has to be a pay off in some other areas. We can reduce our defence spending from $12 billion to $2 billion with all these FTs around. stupid PAP.

 

[Papsmearer]

Singapore's military doctrine is aimed primarily at our two largest neighbours, who are both our greatest friends and greatest potential threats. We aim to outnumber and outgun them, and taking a leaf from the Israeli doctrine, bring the fight to them instead of fighting at our borders. It's a huge step forward, as compared to our doctrine of the past of holding out for about a week, while begging US and UN to send military aid.

In this dog-eat-dog world, there are no permanent friends, only permanent interests. Always remember Henry Kissinger's advice before you keep yapping about cutting our military budget or reducing NS.

U don't have to outgun and outnumber them. Sam, u sheep fucker u better stick to animal sex. Wanting to do us in is different from possessing the capability to do so. Iran wants very badly to wipe out the US. Same for North Korea. But wanting is one thing actually being able to do so is something else. Both Malaysia and Indonesia possess no where near the capability to do so.