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Serious [ Singapore News ] Singaporeans Beware of Mustafa Centre Run By Indians : Mustafa Centre Violation of Employment of Foreign Manpower Act

Devil Within

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Why left out and no mention of the destruction of Babri Mosque by Hindu extemists? Talking cock and ur sure a Great Liar! If its 15yrs back i would have show u my long middle finger!




That's because Muslims invaded Hindu majority India and kept attacking Hindus.
Why Muslims destroyed Hindu temples? Dr. Zakir Naik (Urdu)

Islamic terror at Rawalpindi in 1947 Muslims Killing Hindus and shikhs



Muslim man attacks Hindu temple and terrorizes Hindus


Muslims Threatening to Kill Hindus,Christians
 

whoami

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Tot i already click ignore button previously on DW.? One can be nasty and swear curse the religion. But the moment he started cursing mother father and family members, then teres no point to discuss further.
 

JohnTan

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Why left out and no mention of the destruction of Babri Mosque by Hindu extemists? Talking cock and ur sure a Great Liar! If its 15yrs back i would have show u my long middle finger!


Vast majority of mosques in india were built upon the ruins of hindu temples. So, the hindus are merely retaking back the hindu temples stolen from them by the moghuls or some other muslim sultan.

A mosque was built at the Babri site because the hindus believe that site to be the birthplace of their god Ram. So muslims want to take over the place by placing a mosque over it. It's the same with muslims building islamic shrines in jerusalem.

It is a recorded fact that islam was a hostile invading force in india since the 8th century AD. There are many well-known muslim generals in india who slaughtered millions of hindus, such as Mahmud of Ghazni, various mughal emperors and Timur the lame. Peaceful islam made limited inroads based on proselytizing. Ironically, hindus are nice enough to allow muslims to preach amongst them, but muslims will not allow hindus to do likewise to preach hinduism to muslims.
 

bic_cherry

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https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/20...lation-of-employment-of-foreign-manpower-act/
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/00000_8.mp4?_=1
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Mustafa Centre investigated for alleged violation of Employment of Foreign Manpower Act

Published on 2018-08-03 by Danisha Hakeem

The Online Citizen understands that complaints have been made against the renowned Mustafa Centre to the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) for collecting "cash back" from its workers and terminating their contract without valid reasons.

The company is being investigated for allegedly violating the Employment of Foreign Manpower Act 1990.

Several former foreign workers have come out with their testimonies regarding the salary issue, after non-renewal of their employment contracts and termination of service due to them having to file complaints with MOM.

Mr Abdul Haq Siddique, a former Senior Sales Executive at the jewellery department at Mustafa Centre, said that he had observed the "cash back" practice taking place from the moment he received "the very first salary". He expressed shock and disbelief over Mr Ghouse, the Human Resources (HR) Manager's instruction to return part of their salaries as a form of "cash back" without good reason.

This led him to making a query to Mr Mustaq Ahmad, a shareholder and director of Mohamed Mustafa & Samsuddin Company Pte Ltd (MMSCPL) that owns Mustafa Centre. Mr Mustaq allegedly responded by saying "What he [Mr Ghouse] asks [you to do], you follow".

"Every month, when I got my salary (as declared in MOM application) in my bank account, Mr Ghouse and sometimes Ms Nafisah [the HR Assistant] asked me to bring the cash back amount to him."

"I used to bring the cash back amount by withdrawing [money] using my OCBC ATM card and giving to Mr Ghouse, or to Ms Nafisah in the absence of Mr Ghouse."

"The cash back amount was S$600 to S$1000 every month, depending if I worked on my off day," said Mr Abdul.

Mr Abdul said that he was not the only one who had to pay the "cash back".

He added: "I had been paying the cash back until October 2017 when the HR department stopped taking cash back due to the Mustafa families' legal dispute." It was alleged that only the salaries of the family members of Mr Mustafa and that of Mr Samsuddin working for the company were exempt from the "cash back" practice.

Videos taken in secrecy by the former employees were shared with TOC, showing how the HR department collected the "cash back" from the employees and documented the amount "owed" by the workers to the company.

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/00000_8.mp4?_=1

In a civil suit against Mr Mustaq and his family, Mustafa's second family, led by Mr Ayaz Ahmed, who is one of Mr Mustaq's three half-brothers, made the allegation of Mr Mustaq's involvement in the false declaration of Mustafa Centre's foreign workers' salaries as a part of their pleadings:

Over the years, the 1st Defendant [Mr Mustaq] caused MMSCPL to overstate the salaries of its employees in its applications for their work passes. They plead that the difference between the “declared salaries” and the actual salaries of the workers was collected from the workers each month and passed to the 1st Defendant, who kept them for his own benefit.​
The civil suit claims that Mr Mustaq had "diluted the interests" of his step-family as the "beneficiaries of the Mustafa estate" through "two share allotments" that have increased Mr Mustaq's stake in the company.

All of the former workers TOC spoke to suggested that the alleged cash back practice, as highlighted by Mr Ayaz in the civil suit, was the reason why the practice of "cash back" collection was ceased.

However, the joy of not having to pass the excess cash back to the company was short-lived, as S-Pass employees were informed via a piece of orange-colored A4 sized notice letter pasted in the office, that there will be no more renewals of S-Passes for workers holding the pass.

Mr Abdul Siddique said, "On 28 May this year, the S-Pass holders working for the Mustafa company were told that their passes will not be renewed, as their manpower costs for S-Pass holders have increased due to the cessation of cash back collections."

He added: "After that, I wrote an email to the top management, as well as to Mr Mustaq, regarding the non-renewal of [our] S-Passes."

"To date, they did not reply to the email I sent," he said.

Another former employee of Mustafa, Mr Gopal also confirmed Mr Abdul Siddique's experience in seeking clarification regarding the non-renewal notice regarding their S-Passes:

We went to our General Manager and asked him [for] his advice, and we came to the point of sending our request through email to the top management, which includes all the board of directors and bosses, informing them about how we got trapped for the cash back scam and about the ongoing problems related to the non-renewal of S-pass holder.​

I sent my email on 30 May 2018, expecting a reply from them or assurance from them about renewal of S pass. Instead, we (a colleague and I) got terminated without any reason.​
When asked if he has heard anything from F&B staff regarding the renewal of the S-Passes of workers who support the company in giving false testimonies to MOM, Mr Abdul Siddique said: "They are giving lollipops . . . [It is as though they are telling the workers that] If you do not speak the truth, I will give you [S-Pass] renewals.”

He hopes to achieve "justice" from his predicament, and appeals to his "friends [who are currently still] working in Mustafa” to "please come and speak the truth”.

“Don't be afraid of these people . . . They have been suppressing us for so many years,” he said as a message to his former colleagues.

He also urged "the people of Singapore to stand for justice too", adding that he believes that MOM will conduct a fair inquiry on the matter.

"This [the cash back practice] is a matter of fraud ... by a large company in Singapore ... [There is also the] violation of income tax department [by the alleged tax evasion] ... Illegally collecting money, laundering money ... No one knows where the money goes to," he lamented.

According to Mr Abdul, there are about 100 S-pass employees at Mustafa Centre who are facing the same situation.

When asked who will replace the employees if their S-Passes are not renewed, the former employees shared that there are plans to hire Malaysians to replace those whose employment has been terminated.

As the S-Pass status of Mr Abdul Siddique and other former employees have either expired or been terminated, they are currently issued with Special Passes issued by MOM to assist in the investigation. While they are allowed to seek alternative employment during the investigation, which would take months if not years, MOM noted to them that they can only take jobs in the construction industry as they are Indian nationals.

When queried by TOC on the claims made by former employees of Mustafa Centre, MOM replied: "MOM has received complaints that Mohammed Mustafa & Samsuddin Co. Pte Ltd may have infringed the Employment of Foreign Manpower Act. Investigations are on-going."

TOC understands from those involved that MOM has not gone down to Mustafa to look for any documentation evidence.

According to the Employment of Foreign Manpower Act, employers who are found guilty of making a false statement or providing false information in any application or renewal of a work pass will face a fine of up to $20,000, or imprisonment for up to 2 years, or both.
CEO steals from foreign work permit /S pass holders and short changes Singaporeans of jobs to amass obscene $$$ described as PAP as 'dignity'. Ministers create policies with all the deliberate loopholes to promote and encourage the theft and exploitation to begin with... And for being the architect of all this systematic incompetence if not corruption, they design their own salary package pegged to double the CEO levels of 'dignity', like gangsters comparing their robbery takings.

But still, 69.9% think that dis is the right thing to do.

Guess the trajectory of Singapore is downwards from now on .
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"If the annual salary of the Minister of Information, Communication and Arts is only $500,000, it may pose some problems when he discuss policies with media CEOs who earn millions of dollars because they need not listen to the minister's ideas and proposals. Hence, a reasonable payout will help to maintain a bit of dignity."
- MP Lim Wee Kiak apologises for comments on pay
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ChanRasjid

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I know this forum. Ok, most people don't really take everything they read - or what they write - too seriously. What you experience with Mustafa has nothing to do with "Indians" nor "Muslim"; it has to do with corruption of the human soul! Nothing else.

It is only an online "factual falsehood" that ah-nehs only is corrupt, cheats, black, smelly... The "factual truth" is that Eve started it all in biblical times when she enticed Adam to pluck an apple from the Tree of Good and Evil. From thence, we get afflicted by all manners of ills and bad practices. Then when Cain and Abel found buried gold, one killed the other to hoard all the gold to himself. To this day, man is afflicted by suffering living in this world. He has to endure all abuse to just survive in this world. Try to wear black and go to attend parliament meeting and tell LHL off by answering "NO"s whenever he utters "YES"s. You end up living in the street - the only time PAP allows a person to beg in the streets of Singapore!

I just heard a nice story from the husband of my niece. I think he accompanied some students, etc.. for some educational excursions of MOE blah, blah, blah and they visited Google's office in Singapore. I only heard him exclaimed "... the office is SO ATTAS ...". Many students (may be the older ones) asked how they could get a job working HERE - meaning in this attas workplace. You think the owner of Mustafa Center don't want to build a Google style shopping mall for your shopping experience? It is "Money Not Enough" everywhere in the world!

Why do you have the tainted milk scare in China, tainted vaccines,... etc. It's the same all over the world. If Najib had "enough" money, he sure will pray five times a day and say "thank you Allah".
If I have a bungalow in Singapore and it is built with bricks - and every brick is pure gold and my wife were to be like this :

Do you want me to take risk and break the laws in Singapore and end up in Changi prison? No! I'll make sure I pay up every cent of tax the PAP ask of me. I don't want to spoil my easy and blessed life.

Chan Rasjid.
 

Devil Within

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Tot i already click ignore button previously on DW.? One can be nasty and swear curse the religion. But the moment he started cursing mother father and family members, then teres no point to discuss further.

Discuss? LOL!!!!.... Don't make me laugh. There is no discussion with idiot terrorist like you who knowingly embrace a violent cult.

Muslim Rioters Kill Christians in Egypt



hindus in pakistan killed, why pakistan was created


Rohingya Muslim killed thousand of hindus
 

whoami

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Vast majority of mosques in india were built upon the ruins of hindu temples. So, the hindus are merely retaking back the hindu temples stolen from them by the moghuls or some other muslim sultan.

A mosque was built at the Babri site because the hindus believe that site to be the birthplace of their god Ram. So muslims want to take over the place by placing a mosque over it. It's the same with muslims building islamic shrines in jerusalem.

It is a recorded fact that islam was a hostile invading force in india since the 8th century AD. There are many well-known muslim generals in india who slaughtered millions of hindus, such as Mahmud of Ghazni, various mughal emperors and Timur the lame. Peaceful islam made limited inroads based on proselytizing. Ironically, hindus are nice enough to allow muslims to preach amongst them, but muslims will not allow hindus to do likewise to preach hinduism to muslims.

Ehh...u mean Hindus allow Muslims preacher to preach Islam to them?:laugh:

In Msia, Indonesia......just to name a few, hindus are allow to preach their religion. U blind, didnt notice so many hindu temples in Indon like Bali, JOgjak.

Ehh...we are here, spore. Why like to talk about other countries. Talked about 8 century. Like tat discuss till cow come home lah.

Most of what happening be it ME are more to politics and interference of foreign parties, like USA, Soviet. U named Afganistan, Iraq, etc etc...all cos of USA kaypoh. U mentioned sunnis terrorist then why is USA assisting them?:rolleyes: Whos the greater terrorist?
 

JohnTan

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Ehh...we are here, spore. Why like to talk about other countries. Talked about 8 century. Like tat discuss till cow come home lah.

You brought up the babri mosque issue, not me.

Most of what happening be it ME are more to politics and interference of foreign parties, like USA. U named Afganistan, Iraq, etc etc...all cos of USA kaypoh. U mentioned sunnis terrorist then why is USA assisting them?:rolleyes:

When muslims were strong, such as the ottoman empire, muslims interfered frequently in the affairs of weaker non-muslim states. You should read more about the Ottoman military campaigns in the Balkans from the 1400s to the 1700s.

You could also read about the military campaigns of the saracens who continuously raided christian villages and towns along the Italian and Sicilian coasts during the 7th to 9th century. I don't hear about muslims whining about human rights abuses when it is the muslims who are doing the killing against non-muslim civilians.

The US is simply doing what muslims have always been doing. You are only upset because the dead people now are muslims instead of christians or hindus. Anyway, most of the dead in Iraq are Shia, not sunnis. Most sunni muslims I know are glad to see shia people killed. So why are you getting your panties in a bunch?
 

whoami

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I know this forum. Ok, most people don't really take everything they read - or what they write - too seriously. What you experience with Mustafa has nothing to do with "Indians" nor "Muslim"; it has to do with corruption of the human soul! Nothing else.

Ayah biasa lah. Anything to do with Malay or Muslim the faults lies with the religion. Just ask John Tan. But John Tan no balls to say to his MIW Malay Ministers/MPs
 

JohnTan

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Ayah biasa lah. Anything to do with Malay or Muslim the faults lies with the religion. Just ask John Tan. But John Tan no balls to say to his MIW Malay Ministers/MPs

Actually, if muslims just simply admitted that it was muslims who did wrong, people would not find fault with islam.

However, when muslims get all defensive, refuse to admit any form of wrongdoing because they fear it makes the religion look bad, close ranks with lying imams, always take the sides of muslims simply because they are muslims, it makes people blame islam.

Your replies, which are pretty much the views of most islamic apologists, make islam look bad.
 

whoami

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You brought up the babri mosque issue, not me.

When muslims were strong, such as the ottoman empire, muslims interfered frequently in the affairs of weaker non-muslim states. You should read more about the Ottoman military campaigns in the Balkans from the 1400s to the 1700s.

You could also read about the military campaigns of the saracens who continuously raided christian villages and towns along the Italian and Sicilian coasts during the 7th to 9th century. I don't hear about muslims whining about human rights abuses when it is the muslims who are doing the killing against non-muslim civilians.

The US is simply doing what muslims have always been doing. You are only upset because the dead people now are muslims instead of christians or hindus. Anyway, most of the dead in Iraq are Shia, not sunnis. Most sunni muslims I know are glad to see shia people killed. So why are you getting your panties in a bunch?

Cos u put it as though hindus are innocent. They also killed thousand of muslims. U always post 1 sided story. I have to be defensive of course.

See. why never mention persecution of Muslims? The crusades war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/News/12699.aspx

I dont think is nice to see people being killed. How u know Sunni are happy to see shia being killed. Ur Malay Mps told u issit?
 
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whoami

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Actually, if muslims just simply admitted that it was muslims who did wrong, people would not find fault with islam.

However, when muslims get all defensive, refuse to admit any form of wrongdoing because they fear it makes the religion look bad, close ranks with lying imams, always take the sides of muslims simply because they are muslims, it makes people blame islam.

Your replies, which are pretty much the views of most islamic apologists, make islam look bad.

Since when did i said Muslims never did wrong? But not all Muslims did wrong. Only a faction out of over 1 billion. Tat also cos they being led astray.

The Quran is tere. Bad or good, anyone can just get hold of it and read. Nothing to fear.
 
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JohnTan

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See. why never mention persecution of Muslims? The crusades war

The crusades were the only time in medieval history when the christians actually fought back against islam, bringing the war into muslim homeland. That was mostly between the period 1100 AD to 1250 AD.

From between 650 AD to 1000 AD and from 1250 AD to 1700s AD, it was mostly islam and muslim going on the offensive, launching the equivalent of islamic crusades into europe. That's easily about 800 years of offensive islamic crusades into europe, with muslim soldiers burning, looting and raping. But I don't see you or any muslims feeling apologetic about the war crimes commited by muslim soldiers.

Instead, you get whiny and bitchy about the roughly 100 years of christian crusades into the middle east. 120 years of Christian crusade vs 800 years of islamic crusades.

That's why we have such a low opinion of islam. Because people like you have not the slightest remorse over the war crimes commited by muslims in islam's name. Instead, you demand for apologies even though your side has commited far worse atrocities.


Muslims killed easily tens of millions of hindus in India alone in their jihads. That's way more than isolated cases of muslims getting lynched by hindus. You should read up on Mahmud of Ghazni. I understand that up till today, he's a celebrated war hero in Pakistan because of the huge number of hindus killed by him.

I dont think is nice to see people being killed. How u know Sunni are happy to see shia being killed. Ur Malay Mps told u issit?

Actually yes. Many muslims i know, including some malay MPs, did tell me from time to time during meal times at puasa or grassroots gathering.

They were all rooting for Saddam Hussein during the US invasion of Iraq. Malays were rooting for Saddam for the sole reason that he was a sunni muslim, just like them.
I never once met a sunni Malay who was deeply angered by Saddam Hussein's slaughter of shia muslims or kurdish sunni muslims during his reign as dictator. All the malay muslims i met were strong saddam supporters and were deeply upset to see his removal from office, and for Iraq to switch from Sunni country to Shia country.
 
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whoami

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Actually yes. Many muslims i know, including some malay MPs, did tell me from time to time during meal times at puasa or grassroots gathering.

They were all rooting for Saddam Hussein during the US invasion of Iraq. Malays were rooting for Saddam for the sole reason that he was a sunni muslim, just like them.
I never once met a sunni Malay who was deeply angered by Saddam Hussein's slaughter of shia muslims or kurdish sunni muslims during his reign as dictator. All the malay muslims i met were strong saddam supporters and were deeply upset to see his removal from office, and for Iraq to switch from Sunni country to Shia country.

Care to share which Malay Mps told u they love to see people being killed?:laugh:

U really love talking cock! But i am not talking cock. I dont like Saddam. Traitor.

U love talking cock. U should rewrite history especially on Muslims the aggressor.:rolleyes:
 
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Sorry to interrupt the lively discussion between @JohnTan and @whoami but I just need to put in my two cents on Mustafa Centre.

That fucking place is a stinky shitskin paradise, I have been there only once in my life. Hated the smell and atmosphere. The surrounding areas, streets and alleys are sleazy and filled with black low lives.
 

whoami

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https://www.quora.com/Which-religio...of-deaths-of-infidels-over-its-entire-history

This is long, but the answer is going to make your jaw drop, so bear with me.

It'd be tough to track down statistics on every religious war in history, but most religions can be eliminated pretty quickly, either because they don't have a track record of religious war or because they were never popular enough to rack up much of a body count. I'll focus on the two you've mentioned, Islam and Christianity, since both are extremely popular religions with a strong focus on proselytizing and a tendency to come to blows over theology.

This is going to involve arbitrary judgement calls and back-of-the-envelope estimations, so don't expect a particularly definitive answer. I'm going to count both martyrs and slain infidels towards each religion's score, since it's hard to find detailed statistics on which sides lost how many people for some of these wars. I'm also going to award each war's death total to whichever side started it, since any country's going to fight back against an invasion whether or not it's religiously motivated. I'll start by ignoring any war with <100,000 deaths, since those aren't likely to tip the scales, as well as civil wars where neither side is secular and there's no clear aggressor.

German Peasants' War - A series of peasant revolts during the height of the Protestant Reformation, spurred on by a mix of economic and religious causes. 100k deaths for Christianity.

Moro Insurgency - Islamic rebels in the Philippines have a long, bloody history of resistance against colonial and Philippine governments alike. 120k deaths for Islam.

Northern Crusades - Crusades to root out the Baltic pagans. Couldn't find any good casualty estimates, but 150k deaths for Christianity seems reasonable.

Algerian Civil War - More Islamist rebels. 200k deaths for Islam.

Lord's Resistance Army - Christian militants in Central Africa. Remember Kony 2012? 200k deaths for Christianity.

Albigensian Crusade - France leads a crusade to root Cathar heretics out of the Languedoc. Estimates vary wildly from 7k to 1mil, but let's just say 200k deaths for Christianity.

Great Turkish War - A "Holy League" of Christian states rolls back the Ottoman Empire's conquests in Eastern Europe. 300k deaths for Christianity.

Afghan Civil Wars - A variety of Islamists, including Al Qaeda, vie for control over Afghanistan. 400k deaths for Islam.

Rashidun Conquests - The Islamic Caliphate conquered its way from being a desert backwater to the world's most powerful state in an incredibly short period of time. I can't find anything resembling an estimate for the casualties involved, so I'm going to completely BS this one: 500k deaths for Islam. Trust me, it won't affect the winner.

Ottoman Conquests - Mehmed II leads the Ottomans on a merry path of conquest over Eastern Europe. 800k deaths for Islam.

The Crusades - All of Christendom spends a few centuries banging it's head against a Holy Land-shaped wall. 1mil deaths for Christianity.

So far, Christianity's crusading habit is definitely a big source of casualties, but those pesky Muslim militants have pushed Islam into the lead. The score is neck and neck at 1,950,000 deaths for Christianity and 2,120,000 deaths for Islam.

But three wars that most people have never heard of completely blow this competition out of the water.

French Wars of Religion - The French Protestants and Catholics spend 36 years massacring each other silly. 3mil deaths for Christianity.

Thirty Years' War - Protestant and Catholic princes duke it out for control of the Holy Roman Empire (modern Germany). War is waged between mercenary companies that loot the countryside to support themselves. One third of Germany dies. 10mil deaths for Christianity.

So that's 15 million deaths for Christianity and a mere 2 million for Islam.

But in the year of our lord 1850, a new challenger blows them both out of the water.

Taiping Rebellion - Hong Xiuquan was born into a poor family in southern China. In 1837, he fails the imperial civil service examinations-- his only hope of getting ahead in life-- and has a nervous breakdown. Long story short, he reads some pamphlets from Portuguese missionaries, gets some freaky visions, decide's he's Jesus's younger brother, rounds up some followers (known as the God Worshippers), and launches a rebellion against the Qing Dynasty that results in the deaths of over 20 million people.

It's entirely possible that Christianity has made up the 5 million death gap with smaller wars and general low-intensity persecution over time, but without any good statistics on that, I'm going to say the most bloody religion of all time is the God Worshippers, a religion that existed for less than 30 years.
 

whoami

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Sorry to interrupt the lively discussion between @JohnTan and @whoami but I just need to put in my two cents on Mustafa Centre.

That fucking place is a stinky shitskin paradise, I have been there only once in my life. Hated the smell and atmosphere. The surrounding areas, streets and alleys are sleazy and filled with black low lives.

But some of the things sold there are cheap if compare to my estate retail shop. As for smell....hmm...ok lah. Agree with u to certain extent...
 

glockman

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But some of the things sold there are cheap if compare to my estate retail shop. As for smell....hmm...ok lah. Agree with u to certain extent...
I understand the cost saving. But to travel all the way there, suffer in that smelly shithole surrounded by shitskin within the building and when you exit, surrounded by more shitskin, is simply not worth it. I would rather pay retail price or forego having the product. BTW, are those people peddling counterfeit cialis and viagra still there in the back alleys?
 

JohnTan

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https://www.quora.com/Which-religio...of-deaths-of-infidels-over-its-entire-history

This is long, but the answer is going to make your jaw drop, so bear with me.

It'd be tough to track down statistics on every religious war in history, but most religions can be eliminated pretty quickly, either because they don't have a track record of religious war or because they were never popular enough to rack up much of a body count. I'll focus on the two you've mentioned, Islam and Christianity, since both are extremely popular religions with a strong focus on proselytizing and a tendency to come to blows over theology.

This is going to involve arbitrary judgement calls and back-of-the-envelope estimations, so don't expect a particularly definitive answer. I'm going to count both martyrs and slain infidels towards each religion's score, since it's hard to find detailed statistics on which sides lost how many people for some of these wars. I'm also going to award each war's death total to whichever side started it, since any country's going to fight back against an invasion whether or not it's religiously motivated. I'll start by ignoring any war with <100,000 deaths, since those aren't likely to tip the scales, as well as civil wars where neither side is secular and there's no clear aggressor.

German Peasants' War - A series of peasant revolts during the height of the Protestant Reformation, spurred on by a mix of economic and religious causes. 100k deaths for Christianity.

Moro Insurgency - Islamic rebels in the Philippines have a long, bloody history of resistance against colonial and Philippine governments alike. 120k deaths for Islam.

Northern Crusades - Crusades to root out the Baltic pagans. Couldn't find any good casualty estimates, but 150k deaths for Christianity seems reasonable.

Algerian Civil War - More Islamist rebels. 200k deaths for Islam.

Lord's Resistance Army - Christian militants in Central Africa. Remember Kony 2012? 200k deaths for Christianity.

Albigensian Crusade - France leads a crusade to root Cathar heretics out of the Languedoc. Estimates vary wildly from 7k to 1mil, but let's just say 200k deaths for Christianity.

Great Turkish War - A "Holy League" of Christian states rolls back the Ottoman Empire's conquests in Eastern Europe. 300k deaths for Christianity.

Afghan Civil Wars - A variety of Islamists, including Al Qaeda, vie for control over Afghanistan. 400k deaths for Islam.

Rashidun Conquests - The Islamic Caliphate conquered its way from being a desert backwater to the world's most powerful state in an incredibly short period of time. I can't find anything resembling an estimate for the casualties involved, so I'm going to completely BS this one: 500k deaths for Islam. Trust me, it won't affect the winner.

Ottoman Conquests - Mehmed II leads the Ottomans on a merry path of conquest over Eastern Europe. 800k deaths for Islam.

The Crusades - All of Christendom spends a few centuries banging it's head against a Holy Land-shaped wall. 1mil deaths for Christianity.

So far, Christianity's crusading habit is definitely a big source of casualties, but those pesky Muslim militants have pushed Islam into the lead. The score is neck and neck at 1,950,000 deaths for Christianity and 2,120,000 deaths for Islam.

But three wars that most people have never heard of completely blow this competition out of the water.

French Wars of Religion - The French Protestants and Catholics spend 36 years massacring each other silly. 3mil deaths for Christianity.

Thirty Years' War - Protestant and Catholic princes duke it out for control of the Holy Roman Empire (modern Germany). War is waged between mercenary companies that loot the countryside to support themselves. One third of Germany dies. 10mil deaths for Christianity.

So that's 15 million deaths for Christianity and a mere 2 million for Islam.

But in the year of our lord 1850, a new challenger blows them both out of the water.

Taiping Rebellion - Hong Xiuquan was born into a poor family in southern China. In 1837, he fails the imperial civil service examinations-- his only hope of getting ahead in life-- and has a nervous breakdown. Long story short, he reads some pamphlets from Portuguese missionaries, gets some freaky visions, decide's he's Jesus's younger brother, rounds up some followers (known as the God Worshippers), and launches a rebellion against the Qing Dynasty that results in the deaths of over 20 million people.

It's entirely possible that Christianity has made up the 5 million death gap with smaller wars and general low-intensity persecution over time, but without any good statistics on that, I'm going to say the most bloody religion of all time is the God Worshippers, a religion that existed for less than 30 years.

Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus

Muslims easily killed 10 million Hindus in India alone from 700 AD to 1970 AD, all put to the sword and raped in Islam's name, with numerous hindu shrines desecrated and rebuilt as mosques, including the babri mosque you brought up. That alone should be worth more than religious wars in Europe.

How come your quora article did not mention the Armenian Genocide? Over 1 million Armenian and Greek orthodox systematically killed by sunni turks? Ever heard of any muslim mosque apologizing to christians for this genocide? But every mosque I know still bitches and whine about the Crusades.
 
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