Sincere call for KJ to withdraw and endorse LLL

[aurvandil]

Have heard that KJ is in depression after the turnout at his Sunday rally. He was expecting to see thousands. It was a shock to him that so few turned up. This depression led him to miss the feedback session on Monday.

Seeing that KJ reads SBF, here's a bit of advice from an old political hand.

It is not too late to turn things around. You have to accept the reality if you press forward, you are going to lose deposit and see the legacy of your father destroyed. Putting on a brave face and denying this will only delay the truth from coming out in a few days.

It is difficult but the RIGHT thing to do now is to announce that you withdraw and endorse Lee Li Lian as the candidate for Punggol East.

If you do this, you will earn the gratitude of a nation straining to get from under the yoke of the PAP. Singaporeans are by nature a forgiving lot. They respect a person big enough to admit his mistake and do the RIGHT thing for the greater good.

In the Presidential Election of 2011, there were many helping Tan Kin Lian who urged him to withdraw and endorse Tan Cheng Bock. He unfortunately refused. If Tan Kin Lian had listened, we would have a different President in the Istana right now.

---

RP’s Jeyaretnam misses planned feedback session

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/rps-jeyaretnam-misses-planned-feedback-session

SINGAPORE — The Reform Party’s Secretary-General Kenneth Jeyaretnam did not turn up at a planned feedback session for Punggol East residents this evening.

Party members said their Punggol East by-election candidate had come down with a flu after being in the rain during last night’s rally.

However, party members said the feedback session, which started at 7pm, would still carry on until 9pm. The party members will stay on to listen to the issues raised by residents.

“We will be there for the two hours, whoever wants to come down, we will be here to listen and talk,” said party member Prabu.

He added that the party’s campaign for the by-election is “more personal and more intense” with more door to door visits, compared to their campaign during the 2011 General Election.

The first resident to arrive at 8.30pm was Mr Hui Kong Meng. He said he came because he "thought Kenneth would be here".

"I wanted to meet Kenneth. I was there last night and I thought his speech was very good. I liked the things he talked about," said Mr Hui, adding that he is impressed with Mr Jeyaretnam's promises.

Mr Hui said he wanted to meet Mr Jeyaretnam to "get to know Kenneth a bit more".

Mr Prabu said Mr Jeyaretnam "works very hard for the people".

"He did keep to his promises. This morning he was walking the ground despite the bad weather ... If he cannot make it, he will send out a suitable representation."

Mr Jeyaretnam will be starting his campaign at 7am tomorrow at Kangkar LRT station, followed by house visits throughout the day.

 

[tanwahp]

Have heard that KJ is in depression after the turnout at his Sunday rally. He was expecting to see thousands. It was a shock to him that so few turned up. This depression led him to miss the feedback session on Monday.

Seeing that KJ reads SBF, here's a bit of advice from an old political hand.

It is not too late to turn things around. You have to accept the reality if you press forward, you are going to lose deposit and see the legacy of your father destroyed. Putting on a brave face and denying this will only delay the truth from coming out in a few days.

It is difficult but the RIGHT thing to do now is to announce that you withdraw and endorse Lee Li Lian as the candidate for Punggol East.

If you do this, you will earn the gratitude of a nation straining to get from under the yoke of the PAP. Singaporeans are by nature a forgiving lot. They respect a person big enough to admit his mistake and do the RIGHT thing for the greater good.

That's not good for him. After all the attacks he launched on WP and he now starts heaping praises on WP, he will look like a vacillating person.

He should consider running a low key campaign to save further time and costs.

But news report today says he wants to hold another rally on Thursday. We'll see about that.

 

[zhihau]

KJ is a spent force, me deduce... but JBJ lives on in the hearts of many thousands, in mine too :o:o:o

 

[Fook Seng]

Seeing that KJ reads SBF, here's a bit of advice from an old political hand.

It is not too late to turn things around. You have to accept the reality if you press forward, you are going to lose deposit and see the legacy of your father destroyed. Putting on a brave face and denying this will only delay the truth from coming out in a few days.

It is difficult but the RIGHT thing to do now is to announce that you withdraw and endorse Lee Li Lian as the candidate for Punggol East.

If you do this, you will earn the gratitude of a nation straining to get from under the yoke of the PAP. Singaporeans are by nature a forgiving lot. They respect a person big enough to admit his mistake and do the RIGHT thing for the greater good.

BE is not the avenue to show how strong your party is as there is only one seat in contention. You will only deliver the seat to the common opponent.

If you need to demonstrate that your party is still a force to be reckoned with, do it at a GE where there is greater scope for horse trading as there are many more seats. Even if you cannot win the ward, at least there is a greater chance of not losing your deposit, if you can avoid 3CF.

In fact the negotiation work of carving out the territories should start now and not wait until the next election, as there is need to walk the ground early instead of waiting until 2016. Granted the boundaries can change, the work you do on the ground cannot.

That goes the same not only for KJ but also DL.

 

[aurvandil]

This is normal in politics. During the US Presidential Primaries, Romey's opponents said all sorts of nasty things about him. After he won the Nomination, they all lined up behind him and supported him.

As I wrote in my posting, this will be an immensely difficult thing to do. If KJ can let go of his pride and do the RIGHT thing, then he will earn back a great deal of respect.

If he cannot find the strength to do the RIGHT thing and let the PAP steal Punggol East, then he will destroy the legacy of his father.

That's not good for him. After all the attacks he launched on WP and he now starts heaping praises on WP, he will look like a vacillating person.

He should consider running a low key campaign to save further time and costs.

But news report today says he wants to hold another rally on Thursday. We'll see about that.

 

[eatshitndie]

he spends too much time on tweeter fighting with trolls.

 

[ray_of_hope]

he spends too much time on tweeter fighting with trolls.

Strange, a man of his age doing that. I am younger than him and don't have a twitter account and have found no valid reason to have one.

 

[captainxerox]

how to withdraw now, so lao kui unless he is ill, medical excuse as legit tact withdraw however lame it sounds.

which he already hinting as he said he cannot attend feedback session his rp organised last nite.

 

[brocoli]

This is normal in politics. During the US Presidential Primaries, Romey's opponents said all sorts of nasty things about him. After he won the Nomination, they all lined up behind him and supported him.

As I wrote in my posting, this will be an immensely difficult thing to do. If KJ can let go of his pride and do the RIGHT thing, then he will earn back a great deal of respect.

If he cannot find the strength to do the RIGHT thing and let the PAP steal Punggol East, then he will destroy the legacy of his father.

u r even more delusional than him if you think he will do so...

truth is KJ will bring out more pertinent issue in parliament than LL ever could.. but he cant run the TC or glassloot for nuts

 

[aurvandil]

All KJ needs to do issue a press statement with the following

1) He is withdrawing from from the Punggol East BE

2) The reason for his doing so is because he does not want to split the vote and let PAP steal the BE

3) He believes WP to be the best party for Punggol East and urges his supporters to vote for WP

If he does this, the only loss will be election deposit and any expenses so far incurred. There will be no shame in getting very few votes because he has withdrawn. But most of all .... he will have gratitude of many Opposition supporters. If WP takes Punggol East by a narrow margin, all credit will go to him for withdrawing and "giving" his votes to WP.

how to withdraw now, so lao kui unless he is ill, medical excuse as legit tact withdraw however lame it sounds.

which he already hinting as he said he cannot attend feedback session his rp organised last nite.

 

[tanwahp]

As I wrote in my posting, this will be an immensely difficult thing to do. If KJ can let go of his pride and do the RIGHT thing, then he will earn back a great deal of respect.

If he cannot find the strength to do the RIGHT thing and let the PAP steal Punggol East, then he will destroy the legacy of his father.

I still won't do it if I were him. 3CF may be the common thing in future. If he cannot hold his own ground, how is he going to face future battles?

 

[Sideswipe]

This is normal in politics. During the US Presidential Primaries, Romey's opponents said all sorts of nasty things about him. After he won the Nomination, they all lined up behind him and supported him.

As I wrote in my posting, this will be an immensely difficult thing to do. If KJ can let go of his pride and do the RIGHT thing, then he will earn back a great deal of respect.

If he cannot find the strength to do the RIGHT thing and let the PAP steal Punggol East, then he will destroy the legacy of his father.

it's normal for internal party rivals to support each other after the nomination fighting is over. it is very much harder for KJ to give up the cause in the midst of the election. i think he can't officially withdraw ? but he could make a plea to his voters to give WP the votes.

but KJ should seriously consider it. eat the humble pie. could earn him some goodwill among opposition supporters. the 2-3% result at the end of it if KJ persists on will really hurt his political future.

 

[aurvandil]

I always believe in giving people the benefit of doubt that they will do the RIGHT thing.

Tan Kin Lian was given the chance in 2011. He failed to take it. If he had, we would have taken a giant step forward. The election in Punggol East is no less important than the Presidential Election in 2011. I stay hopeful that KJ will stay true to the memory of his father and do what is RIGHT for Singapore.

u r even more delusional than him if you think he will do so...

truth is KJ will bring out more pertinent issue in parliament than LL ever could.. but he cant run the TC or glassloot for nuts

 

[captainxerox]

it's normal for internal party rivals to support each other after the nomination fighting is over. it is very much harder for KJ to give up the cause in the midst of the election. i think he can't officially withdraw ? but he could make a plea to his voters to give WP the votes.

but KJ should seriously consider it. eat the humble tie. could earn him some goodwill among opposition supporters. the 2-3% result at the end of it if KJ persists on will really hurt his political future.

he cannot and should not withdraw.

those who want him withdraw say that is brave to do that, but i think the issue is conviction and perseverance.

if he quit halfway, the stigma of spineless forever stick. jbj, never quited. he went rounds and rounds till the end. if anything, kj must have that spirit.

i sense that sdp votes would go to rp instead as the major complaint abt wp is that it is so close to the pap in ideology, might as well have pap.

 

[ray_of_hope]

If he announces withdrawal, then that is an act of chickening out worst than what SDP did. Simply cannot.

 

[aurvandil]

What good is living in denial and pressing on to the bitter end? Supporting the poor turnout at Sunday's rally is empirical data to suggest that he will only get a few hundred votes.

I still won't do it if I were him. 3CF may be the common thing in future. If he cannot hold his own ground, how is he going to face future battles?

 

[brocoli]

I always believe in giving people the benefit of doubt that they will do the RIGHT thing.

Tan Kin Lian was given the chance in 2011. He failed to take it. If he had, we would have taken a giant step forward. The election in Punggol East is no less important than the Presidential Election in 2011. I stay hopeful that KJ will stay true to the memory of his father and do what is RIGHT for Singapore.

dear uncle, people in politics do not do the right thing for the greater good, they do the best for themselves.

after all his bullshit about free market of ideas and accusing SDP of collusion, he will totally destroy himself even if he flip prata.

SDP did not do the right thing because they wanted to do the right thing, they did it on the threat of an internal rebellion, I have no doubt that the leadership, VW, PT were raring to whack WP .......

there is no right, only might and WP is the mightiest opp around, not the best in term of policy and even parliamentary debate, just the only 1

KJ must be taught a lesson from which he can never recover, even if he were to get the less a percent, I suspect he will still be around...


his ego must be bigger than desmond considering that he viewed himself as superior than Desmond lIm

 

[brocoli]

he cannot and should not withdraw.

those who want him withdraw say that is brave to do that, but i think the issue is conviction and perseverance.

if he quit halfway, the stigma of spineless forever stick. jbj, never quited. he went rounds and rounds till the end. if anything, kj must have that spirit.

i sense that sdp votes would go to rp instead as the major complaint abt wp is that it is so close to the pap in ideology, might as well have pap.

SDP's ideology is liberal democracy while RP is Liberal Free Market...

SDP believe in subsidy as the solution to everything, which is not so different from what the WP's core base believe in...

RP believe in free market as a solution, which is not so different from what the PAP believe in...

KJ like to call himself a keynesian economist...

 

[Sideswipe]

he cannot and should not withdraw.

those who want him withdraw say that is brave to do that, but i think the issue is conviction and perseverance.

if he quit halfway, the stigma of spineless forever stick. jbj, never quited. he went rounds and rounds till the end. if anything, kj must have that spirit.

i sense that sdp votes would go to rp instead as the major complaint abt wp is that it is so close to the pap in ideology, might as well have pap.

how KJ explains his withdrawal to the people is important. many politicians are great sophists. if he did it well. the damages will be reduced to a minimum. some people might even believe that he is brave to do it.

anyway KJ will not withdraw. he will get no more than 3-4%.

 

[metalmickey]

RP believe in free market as a solution, which is not so different from what the PAP believe in...

KJ like to call himself a keynesian economist...

What are you talking about Keynesian and free market are totally different