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Silly Taiwan DPP 用愛發電破功 insuffient power still dream shutdown nuke

democracy my butt

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No LPG production nor supply. No Hydro-power construction. No solar energy success. No wind-power success. No Wave-Power success. No oil production. No methane-Hydrate. HATE NUKE. HATE COAL. Want to TALK COCK USING LOVE POWER! Fucking global joke fail!

China got EVERYTHING! And is #1 technologies globally for too many energies domains, and uniquely strong and successful globally.

Energy shortage crisis in Taiwan forced DPP to restart their nuke which they celebrated shutting down! Reverse gear now! When they shut it they claimed LOVE can generate Power! May PLA Love their Ass!

Taiwan DPP is super- childish and stupid! Super Pathetic. PLA pse invade today!





https://tw.news.yahoo.com/核二今啟動-3-29滿載發電-215009253.html

核二今啟動 3╱29滿載發電

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中國時報【王玉樹╱台北報導】

停機673天的核二2號機要重新再轉了!台電昨接獲原能會同意再轉公文,將從今天進行啟動作業,5天後併聯電網,再4天達到滿載發電,預計3月29日機組98.5萬瓩容量全發,可貢獻2.7%備轉容量率,可讓4月份供電脫離警戒橘燈。

台電預計今上午進行最後一次的安全檢查,接著進行冷凝器真空抽完作業,然後進行控制棒抽棒,整個起動作業5天,然後逐步升載,估計3月29日就能滿載發電。以核能全天候發電來說,剩下9個月可發電到65億度電。

核二是在2016年5月16日發生發電機避雷器箱受損而停機,修復後,依立法院教育委員會決議,須向該會報告才能起動,但教委會遲遲不排定,導致2號機一拖就是1年10個月,直到行政院長賴清德指示再轉,台電上周才向立院完成報告。

由於核三1號機下月3日起將進行45天歲修,一下少掉95萬瓩容量,使4月到5月中旬前備轉容量率掉到5%左右,亮起供電警戒橘燈。現在核二2號機重新加入供電行列,可謂及時雨。

台電表示,核二2號機可增加2.7%備轉容量,歸隊後原可讓備轉容量超過安全的7%,但目前已調度做為緊急發電機組的基隆協和電廠兩部老燃油機組,因其有每年備轉率6%以上不得超過720小時運轉時數限制,當核二2號機加入後,就會讓協和這兩部燃油機組休息,預估4月整體供電備轉容量率約在6%以上。


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【Yahoo論壇/唐湘龍】「反核」就是「挺煤」,選擇吧
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圖為深澳更新計畫完工示意圖。(圖片來源:台電)
非常痛苦支持深澳電廠" data-reactid="31">非常痛苦支持深澳電廠

「我反核,我是人」,但如果你又反煤,那你最好是神仙。" data-reactid="32">「我反核,我是人」,但如果你又反煤,那你最好是神仙。

我支持蓋深澳電廠。燃煤也支持。

我住台北。我用電不多。我不選舉。我更不是在野時鬼扯,執政時更扯的政客。誰不知道燃煤電廠再乾淨也有限?但做為一個負責任的公民,我總不可能「反電」?如果要用電,充足的電,我總要了解一下這個島上的能源型式。

叫人民「去google一下」?怎麼不早說?如果在野時沒說過「不會缺電」、「綠能跟得上」、「電價不會漲」,今天就算叫大家回去「鑽木取火」,也不是問題。但是,有嗎?

民主在退潮。民粹在漲潮。別再談民主了,聽了嫌煩。如果你大聲反核,又大聲反煤,民主?說實在,你不配。

民主是要負責任的。" data-reactid="37">民主是要負責任的。

民主不是聽政客講完廢話,然後投完票了事。民主不只自作自受,民主是「共業」,就算不作,也要受。很多時候,很多、很多、很多時候,是「他作我受」。這叫共業。

「乾淨煤」也不是什麼奇怪沒聽過的話語,何苦現在變得三貞九烈,好像一點燃煤都容不下?這種「反煤」態度,跟「反核」有什麼不一樣?「反核」是因為安全,「反煤」是因為健康,都要用力給它反下去。反到地老天荒,才叫做進步是嗎?

沒錯,「乾淨的煤」聽起來令人上火。這跟「不臭的屎」、「不詐騙的黨」一樣,都是相對的,都是一套概念。你信一個,你就最好信一套。你相信「乾淨的煤」那真的是屎都能吃。可是,你不在乎被一個無所不用其極從你手上騙到選票的政黨繼續「政治詐欺」,那「用煤」、「吃屎」有什麼困難?

我知道這種問題是選擇題。不是是非題。不要在考選擇題的時候打O、X,這沒辦法給分數。關於電力,全部的政策選擇標準就是四個:乾不乾淨?安不安全?穩不穩定?便不便宜?每個人面對的標準都一樣。但每個人的先後順序可能不一樣。有的人,重視乾淨,有的人重視安全,有的人,重視價格。但對政府來講,還必須考量穩定性。

穩定性,大概就是平常電力術語裡頭說的「基載電力」。價格不高,比重要夠,併聯升載要快。這有點專業,但不是因為專業,你就可以不負責任。如果考量穩定性,不用擔心備轉容量不夠,不用擔心天災、人禍和戰爭,那告訴你一個不幸的消息:在台灣,你只有兩種選擇,一個是核能,一個是燃煤。

在一個封閉式的電網, 99%能源全部進口的環境,如果兩種基載電力你全反對,那就吃土吧。你到底是怎麼支持這個政府的能源政策的?民進黨反核反到失心瘋,但它可沒說它反煤。反核、廢核之後,沒有第二條路,就是燒煤。所以,在台灣,反核,跟挺煤,是同一件事。反核就必須挺煤。挺核才有資格反煤。

電力選擇是複選題,重點是,你就是得要選。全世界都一樣,電力規劃起碼都是十年進程,一個電廠運轉周期起碼都是三十年,前後就是四十年。你今天的決定,影響你至少半輩子,謹慎是對的。問題是你超不謹慎、超不嚴肅。把電力選擇當進香拜廟,今天拜這個,明天拜那個。到底哪一個靈驗?你在乎嗎?

燃煤發電廠乾不乾淨?那看你要跟什麼比。新一代的燃煤機組一定比過去的乾淨很多。但是,當空氣污染嚴重威脅你和家人的健康,你對於「乾淨」的標準提升的更多。所以,光棍眼裡容不下沙子,燃煤機組不可能符合你的需要。

其實,核能電廠又乾淨、又便宜、又穩定,而且,安全。但是,你寧可相信那些反核人士的鬼話,你擔心核能電廠爆炸;你認為核廢料無法處理;你甚至相信,如果連同核廢料後端處理,核能發電很昂貴。我不懂,這麼鬼扯的話你都相信了,今天為什麼不相信蔡英文,不相信賴清德,不相信民進黨?

你 為 什 麼 不 相 信?
我知道你想要用天然氣。它確實比燃煤發電乾淨一點。但價格貴三倍。如果物價漲1%你都想造反,電價漲三倍,你能夠忍受?你到底要自欺欺人到什麼時候?這還不考量天然氣的儲量很有限,穩定性非常差。

反煤是對的。這是世界潮流。全世界都在減少石化燃料的使用,不只是煤炭,包括汽柴油車輛都會在很短的時間之內消失。如果堅持不理性的反核,再骯髒的空氣都願意忍受,那麼,為了讓台灣未來的能源政策合理、可行,有幾件事,幾個原則應該被嚴格的遵守。

1、誠實揭露之後的長期電力結構。不可以明修棧道,暗渡陳倉,偷偷摸摸高污染的發電形式放進來。

2、目前石化燃料發電比例超過八成,綠能發展進度大幅落後的。為了鼓勵綠能發展,民進黨執政之下的政府機關應該帶頭採購綠電。

3、北台灣三大都會用電量占全台發電量四成以上。北台灣廢核缺電,新建的發電廠應該設在北台灣。自己要用的電自己發。不可以「以鄰為壑」,繼續搞什麼南電北送、東電西送。

當然沒有什麼比較乾淨的煤炭。但是有比較乾淨的燃煤發電廠。但是,再乾淨的燃煤發電廠頂多只是減少污染物的排放,全球關注的碳排放,幫助非常有限。台灣碳排放年年創新高,台灣的燃煤發電、天然氣發電比例不斷創新高,要如何又反核、又反煤,然後還能擁有安全、乾淨、穩定、便宜的電力供應,本來就是神話。

台灣政治最大的問題,就是縱容政治人物把鬼話當神話。




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However, Taiwan DPP is perfectly placed to be used as a 'false flag' by the USA against motherland China. Just wait for the war over Taiwan.

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However, Taiwan DPP is perfectly placed to be used as a 'false flag' by the USA against motherland China. Just wait for the war over Taiwan.

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核四
先講一個故事。" data-reactid="23">先講一個故事。

在馬政府時期,反核團體千方百計阻止用過核子燃料的乾式貯存,也不准台電送出國外進行再處理。" data-reactid="24">在馬政府時期,反核團體千方百計阻止用過核子燃料的乾式貯存,也不准台電送出國外進行再處理。

2016年1月,蔡英文勝選,確定政黨輪替。同年4月,以黃國昌服務處主任郭慶霖為首的北海岸反核行動聯盟,立刻配合「準官方」改口,宣稱他不是反對乾貯,而是露天乾貯太危險,改成室內乾貯就安全。" data-reactid="25">2016年1月,蔡英文勝選,確定政黨輪替。同年4月,以黃國昌服務處主任郭慶霖為首的北海岸反核行動聯盟,立刻配合「準官方」改口,宣稱他不是反對乾貯,而是露天乾貯太危險,改成室內乾貯就安全。

2016年9月,原能會要求台電將已經蓋好的乾式貯存場,由目前的露天式改成室內式,並且必須在貯存桶外,再加上金屬護箱。" data-reactid="26">2016年9月,原能會要求台電將已經蓋好的乾式貯存場,由目前的露天式改成室內式,並且必須在貯存桶外,再加上金屬護箱。

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夢中的我在新北市核安委員會上,見到宜蘭人文基金會的陳錫南董事長,多次要求播放他製作的影片,說明某家廠商的一體成形金屬護箱安全又可靠,台電必須全部更換為該型金屬護箱。" data-reactid="29">夢中的我在新北市核安委員會上,見到宜蘭人文基金會的陳錫南董事長,多次要求播放他製作的影片,說明某家廠商的一體成形金屬護箱安全又可靠,台電必須全部更換為該型金屬護箱。

我跟陳錫南起了口角,他嗆聲核安委員會有黃士修就沒有他。過了一段時間,我接到通知,拜託我把核安委員位置讓給另一位較溫和的專家,我也就笑笑不說話。然後就醒了。" data-reactid="30">我跟陳錫南起了口角,他嗆聲核安委員會有黃士修就沒有他。過了一段時間,我接到通知,拜託我把核安委員位置讓給另一位較溫和的專家,我也就笑笑不說話。然後就醒了。

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對台電來說,此舉屬國際財務報導準則解釋(IFRICs)第1號「現有除役、復原及類似負債之變動」第4段所述情況。" data-reactid="32">對台電來說,此舉屬國際財務報導準則解釋(IFRICs)第1號「現有除役、復原及類似負債之變動」第4段所述情況。

2016年12月,台電公布重大訊息,補列除役成本負債準備311.63億元,其中增加反應器內核燃料資產29.70億元,核能發電後端處置費用估計變動數281.93億元,列入該年度損益。" data-reactid="33">2016年12月,台電公布重大訊息,補列除役成本負債準備311.63億元,其中增加反應器內核燃料資產29.70億元,核能發電後端處置費用估計變動數281.93億元,列入該年度損益。

這筆費用把台電上半年獲利全部吃光,該年度的核能發電成本也暴增為往年的兩倍以上,不明所以的人還以為核能很貴。" data-reactid="34">這筆費用把台電上半年獲利全部吃光,該年度的核能發電成本也暴增為往年的兩倍以上,不明所以的人還以為核能很貴。

不知道是不是湊巧,在詹順貴投下關鍵票通過深澳電廠案引發爭議的隔天,台電就公布了核四廠的1774束燃料棒確定送回美國原廠拆解的消息。" data-reactid="35">不知道是不是湊巧,在詹順貴投下關鍵票通過深澳電廠案引發爭議的隔天,台電就公布了核四廠的1774束燃料棒確定送回美國原廠拆解的消息。

各大新聞媒體忙著報導深澳電廠的爭議,比較少在追蹤核四燃料棒這條線。(其實有一家電視台記者有問我這一段,但後來似乎沒有播出。)" data-reactid="36">各大新聞媒體忙著報導深澳電廠的爭議,比較少在追蹤核四燃料棒這條線。(其實有一家電視台記者有問我這一段,但後來似乎沒有播出。)

大家可能沒想到,送出核四燃料棒的後果,遠遠大於深澳電廠的影響。" data-reactid="37">大家可能沒想到,送出核四燃料棒的後果,遠遠大於深澳電廠的影響。

■ 非核家園就是全民買單" data-reactid="38">■ 非核家園就是全民買單

2017年1月,電業法修正案三讀通過,追加第95條第一項「非核家園條款」:核能發電設備應於中華民國一百十四年以前,全部停止運轉。" data-reactid="39">2017年1月,電業法修正案三讀通過,追加第95條第一項「非核家園條款」:核能發電設備應於中華民國一百十四年以前,全部停止運轉。

言下之意,便是核一二三廠不延役,核四廠也無法啟用。" data-reactid="40">言下之意,便是核一二三廠不延役,核四廠也無法啟用。

核一二三廠的建廠費用已折舊攤提完畢,問題不大。由於核四廠處於封存狀態,已投入的2838億元,目前仍然被列為資產,而非負債。如果確定報廢不用,就必須討論這筆帳該如何處理。" data-reactid="41">核一二三廠的建廠費用已折舊攤提完畢,問題不大。由於核四廠處於封存狀態,已投入的2838億元,目前仍然被列為資產,而非負債。如果確定報廢不用,就必須討論這筆帳該如何處理。

解決方法不外乎有二:「政府編列特別預算」或「分攤電價逐年回收」,兩者皆等同全民買單。" data-reactid="42">解決方法不外乎有二:「政府編列特別預算」或「分攤電價逐年回收」,兩者皆等同全民買單。

當時朝野正因前瞻基礎建設計畫8年8800億元吵得不可開交,政府不可能再撥個3000億元特別預算給台電紓困,所以自然傾向漲電價的方案,但這又碰觸到蔡英文總統十年不漲電價的承諾,政治上同樣敏感。" data-reactid="43">當時朝野正因前瞻基礎建設計畫8年8800億元吵得不可開交,政府不可能再撥個3000億元特別預算給台電紓困,所以自然傾向漲電價的方案,但這又碰觸到蔡英文總統十年不漲電價的承諾,政治上同樣敏感。

2017年6月,台電向經濟部提出分攤至電價的建議,經濟部也初步同意。隨後消息曝光,初估工業大戶每戶需多付758萬元、家庭用戶每戶需多付5600元,果然引起廣大民怨反彈,經濟部長李世光緊急澄清尚未拍板定案,行政院發言人徐國勇則直接否認相關訊息。" data-reactid="44">2017年6月,台電向經濟部提出分攤至電價的建議,經濟部也初步同意。隨後消息曝光,初估工業大戶每戶需多付758萬元、家庭用戶每戶需多付5600元,果然引起廣大民怨反彈,經濟部長李世光緊急澄清尚未拍板定案,行政院發言人徐國勇則直接否認相關訊息。

擱置兩個月之後,發生815大停電事件,大家也就忘了這事。" data-reactid="45">擱置兩個月之後,發生815大停電事件,大家也就忘了這事。

■ 變成核四守門神的民進黨" data-reactid="46">■ 變成核四守門神的民進黨

把核四廠成本攤提到電價的方案,前提是核四要維持在資產狀態。早在2016年7月的立法院臨時會上,時代力量便打算全數刪除核四封存預算13.56億元,當時竟然是由民進黨不分區立委陳曼麗擋下,最後只刪了5億元。" data-reactid="47">把核四廠成本攤提到電價的方案,前提是核四要維持在資產狀態。早在2016年7月的立法院臨時會上,時代力量便打算全數刪除核四封存預算13.56億元,當時竟然是由民進黨不分區立委陳曼麗擋下,最後只刪了5億元。

要知道,陳曼麗在馬政府時期,還是主婦聯盟董事長的時候,可是最激進反核電與反核食的社運人士。當上立委之後立場大轉彎,維護核四封存預算、提案開放日本福島五縣食品,都是由她親手貫徹黨意。" data-reactid="48">要知道,陳曼麗在馬政府時期,還是主婦聯盟董事長的時候,可是最激進反核電與反核食的社運人士。當上立委之後立場大轉彎,維護核四封存預算、提案開放日本福島五縣食品,都是由她親手貫徹黨意。

2017年11月,台電編列核四廠資產維護管理預算8.5億元,時代力量又打算全數刪除,也是民進黨團以人數優勢否決該提案,改為只酌減1億元。原本規劃三年的核四封存計畫即將於年底到期,也因此變相悄悄展延一年。" data-reactid="49">2017年11月,台電編列核四廠資產維護管理預算8.5億元,時代力量又打算全數刪除,也是民進黨團以人數優勢否決該提案,改為只酌減1億元。原本規劃三年的核四封存計畫即將於年底到期,也因此變相悄悄展延一年。

為什麼民進黨不敢直接判核四廠死刑?因為它們很清楚,如果不繼續編列封存預算,核四廠就必須報廢,台電恐將破產,動搖國本。" data-reactid="50">為什麼民進黨不敢直接判核四廠死刑?因為它們很清楚,如果不繼續編列封存預算,核四廠就必須報廢,台電恐將破產,動搖國本。

■ 不是隨便你玩的國際會計準則" data-reactid="51">■ 不是隨便你玩的國際會計準則

政客們互相演戲是一回事,實際上能不能做是另一回事。" data-reactid="52">政客們互相演戲是一回事,實際上能不能做是另一回事。

送出核四燃料棒是很嚴重的問題,重點不在核四能否存續,而是核四燃料棒一旦送出,再加上政府多次表示核四廠絕對不會重啟,根據國際會計準則(IASs)第16號「不動產、廠房及設備」第7段,已不符合「(a) 與該項目相關之未來經濟效益很有可能流入企業」條件,故不應認列為資產。" data-reactid="53">送出核四燃料棒是很嚴重的問題,重點不在核四能否存續,而是核四燃料棒一旦送出,再加上政府多次表示核四廠絕對不會重啟,根據國際會計準則(IASs)第16號「不動產、廠房及設備」第7段,已不符合「(a) 與該項目相關之未來經濟效益很有可能流入企業」條件,故不應認列為資產。

即使政府辯稱,核四可能整廠出售或轉型綜合火力電廠,其資產仍可堪用,根據國際會計準則第36號「資產減損」第9段,「企業應於每一報導期間結束日,評估是否有任何跡象顯示資產可能有減損。若有任一該等跡象存在,企業應估計資產之可回收金額。」" data-reactid="54">即使政府辯稱,核四可能整廠出售或轉型綜合火力電廠,其資產仍可堪用,根據國際會計準則第36號「資產減損」第9段,「企業應於每一報導期間結束日,評估是否有任何跡象顯示資產可能有減損。若有任一該等跡象存在,企業應估計資產之可回收金額。」

由於核四廠運轉發電的使用價值已被否定,可回收金額只剩變賣設備的一點殘值,資產減損也會將近三千億元。更重要的是,除非政府帶頭公然違法,否則就必須廢止原先興建核電廠的土地徵收,重新進行興建火力電廠之徵收程序,阻力異常巨大。" data-reactid="55">由於核四廠運轉發電的使用價值已被否定,可回收金額只剩變賣設備的一點殘值,資產減損也會將近三千億元。更重要的是,除非政府帶頭公然違法,否則就必須廢止原先興建核電廠的土地徵收,重新進行興建火力電廠之徵收程序,阻力異常巨大。

待到電業法第95條規定的2025年非核家園,台電更負有將核四廠除役的現時義務。由於核四廠並沒有發電,不像核一二三廠已提撥40年的核後端基金,所以必須另外撥一筆經費,將除役成本認列負債準備。" data-reactid="56">待到電業法第95條規定的2025年非核家園,台電更負有將核四廠除役的現時義務。由於核四廠並沒有發電,不像核一二三廠已提撥40年的核後端基金,所以必須另外撥一筆經費,將除役成本認列負債準備。

此處還不計台電多次重大違約,對國際商譽造成的減損損失。" data-reactid="57">此處還不計台電多次重大違約,對國際商譽造成的減損損失。

■ 比台電破產更嚴重的問題" data-reactid="58">■ 比台電破產更嚴重的問題

無論如何,台電都必須認列這筆鉅額虧損。可是台電絕對不會做,因為一做就破產。負責查核簽證的安侯建業會計事務所也不會主動做外部稽核,因為會得罪政府。至於主管我國公司營運與財務監察的經濟部和審計部,更不可能動作。" data-reactid="59">無論如何,台電都必須認列這筆鉅額虧損。可是台電絕對不會做,因為一做就破產。負責查核簽證的安侯建業會計事務所也不會主動做外部稽核,因為會得罪政府。至於主管我國公司營運與財務監察的經濟部和審計部,更不可能動作。

所以我們一次賠上國營事業的公信力、會計稽核制度的公信力、政府機關的公信力,最終導致台灣在國際上的公信力消失殆盡。" data-reactid="60">所以我們一次賠上國營事業的公信力、會計稽核制度的公信力、政府機關的公信力,最終導致台灣在國際上的公信力消失殆盡。

核四廠的發電量是深澳電廠的整整兩倍,沒有空污。核四廠啟封所需的時間,以及後續的成本,都比重新蓋一座燃煤電廠低很多。" data-reactid="61">核四廠的發電量是深澳電廠的整整兩倍,沒有空污。核四廠啟封所需的時間,以及後續的成本,都比重新蓋一座燃煤電廠低很多。

若以同為無碳的潔淨能源相比,再生能源平均成本每度5元,核四廠每度發電成本不到2元(反核團體綠色公民行動聯盟認證),每年發200億度電,一年就節省600億元。三千億元的建廠成本,核四廠只要商轉五年就能賺回來。" data-reactid="62">若以同為無碳的潔淨能源相比,再生能源平均成本每度5元,核四廠每度發電成本不到2元(反核團體綠色公民行動聯盟認證),每年發200億度電,一年就節省600億元。三千億元的建廠成本,核四廠只要商轉五年就能賺回來。

蔡政府卻寧願毀掉核四廠,也要選擇深澳電廠,對國際投資人傳遞了台灣政府缺乏理性與成本概念的訊息。" data-reactid="63">蔡政府卻寧願毀掉核四廠,也要選擇深澳電廠,對國際投資人傳遞了台灣政府缺乏理性與成本概念的訊息。

■ 試計算瘋狂的半衰期" data-reactid="64">■ 試計算瘋狂的半衰期

蔡政府高喊要注重空污與碳排問題,一面管制生煤,卻一面蓋燃煤電廠。在空污日益嚴重、反核遊行由二十多萬衰減到數百人的情況下,執意解體核四廠、大舉興建火力電廠。" data-reactid="65">蔡政府高喊要注重空污與碳排問題,一面管制生煤,卻一面蓋燃煤電廠。在空污日益嚴重、反核遊行由二十多萬衰減到數百人的情況下,執意解體核四廠、大舉興建火力電廠。

面對社會大眾強烈反彈聲浪,掩耳盜鈴地宣稱反核是全民共識,一意孤行。這凸顯出蔡英文總統的治理毫無章法、制度蕩然無存,整個國家的信用不復存在。" data-reactid="66">面對社會大眾強烈反彈聲浪,掩耳盜鈴地宣稱反核是全民共識,一意孤行。這凸顯出蔡英文總統的治理毫無章法、制度蕩然無存,整個國家的信用不復存在。

好了,現在你知道為什麼我要推動廢除電業法第95條第一項、終止非核家園條款的以核養綠公投了吧。" data-reactid="67">好了,現在你知道為什麼我要推動廢除電業法第95條第一項、終止非核家園條款的以核養綠公投了吧。




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[Yahoo Forum / Huang Shixiu] Consequences of Sending Nuclear Fuel Bars Taipower Bankruptcy or Credit Bankruptcy in Taiwan
Huang Shixiu
Nuclear Runner Terminator Founder
10 people tracking
Political Observatory on March 20, 2018 12:11 PM

The author is the founder of nuclear rumors Terminator
Nuclear Four

First tell a story.

During the Malay government era, anti-nuclear groups did everything possible to prevent dry storage of used nuclear fuel, nor did they allow Taipower to send it abroad for reprocessing.

In January 2016, Tsai Ing-wen won the election, confirming that the political parties are rotating. In April of the same year, the North Coast Anti-Nuclear Action Coalition headed by Guoqing Huang, Director of the Huang Guochang Service Department, immediately agreed with the “quasi-official” coalition to declare that he was not opposed to dry storage, but open storage was too dangerous and it was safe to change it into indoor dry storage.

In September 2016, Taiyuan will ask Taipower to change the existing dry storage facility from the current open-air type to an indoor one, and must add a metal protection box to the storage tank.

■ Interlude

Having said this, I accidentally slept and dreamed.

In my dream, I met with Chen Xinan, chairman of the Yilan Humanities Foundation at the New North City Nuclear Safety Committee. He repeatedly asked to play the video he produced, stating that the integrated metal protection box of a certain manufacturer was safe and reliable, and Taipower had to replace it all. This type of metal protection box.

I spoke with Chen Xinan, and he snored that Huang Shixiu had no him. After a while, I received a notice. Please give me the position of the Nuclear Security Commission to another gentler expert, and I will laugh and laugh. Then I woke up.

■ Sudden extra 30 billion yuan loss

For Taipower, this is the situation described in paragraph 4 of the International Financial Reporting Standards Interpretation (IFRICs) No. 1, “Changes in existing demobilization, rehabilitation and similar liabilities”.

In December 2016, Taipower announced a major news report, adding a total of 31.163 billion yuan in liabilities for decommissioning, including an increase in reactor core fuel assets of 2.97 billion yuan, and an estimated change in back-end disposal costs of nuclear power generation of 28.193 billion yuan, included in the profit or loss for that year. .

This fee ate all of Taipower's profits in the first half of the year. The annual cost of nuclear power generation also soared to more than twice that of previous years. Unknown people still think that nuclear energy is expensive.

Do not know if it happened or not, the next day after Zhan Shungui dropped a key vote and caused controversy through the Shenao Power Plant case, Taipower announced the news that 1,774 fuel rods from the Fourth Nuclear Plant had been sent back to the United States for dismantling.

The major news media are busy reporting on the disputes at the Shenzhen-Australian Power Plant, and are less concerned about tracking the nuclear four-fuel rods line. (Actually, a reporter from a TV station asked me this paragraph, but then it did not seem to be broadcast.)

It may not have occurred to us that the consequences of sending nuclear fuel rods are far greater than those of the Shenzhen Power Plant.

■ Non-nuclear homes are all pay for the people

In January 2017, the amendment to the Electrical Law was passed on the third reading and the first “Article of Non-Nuclear Homeland” of Article 95 was added: Nuclear power generation equipment should be completely suspended before the Republic of China was used more than one hundred and fourteen years ago.

The implication is that the nuclear one or two or three plants are not in service, and the nuclear fourth plant cannot be used.

The construction cost of the nuclear one or two or three plants has been depreciated and amortized. The problem is not significant. Because of the storage status of Nuclear No. 4 Plant, it has invested RMB 283.8 billion and is still classified as an asset rather than a liability. If it is determined that the scrapping is not necessary, it is necessary to discuss how this account should be handled.

There are only two solutions: "The government has a special budget" or "Apportionment of the electricity price year by year." Both are equivalent to paying by the people.

At that time, the opposition and opposition parties were arguing that they were arguing that 880 billion yuan had been spent for eight years on the basis of forward-looking basic design and design. The government could no longer allocate a special budget of 300 billion yuan to Taiwan Power to rescue them. Therefore, it naturally tends to increase the price of electricity, but this touches Cai again. The commitment of the English president to not increase electricity prices for ten years is also politically sensitive.

In June 2017, Taipower made a proposal to the Ministry of Economic Affairs to assess the electricity price, and the Ministry of Economic Affairs initially agreed. After the news was exposed, it was estimated that the large industrial households would have to pay 7.58 million yuan more for each household and 5600 yuan more for each household household. This caused widespread public grievances to rebound. Economic Secretary Li Shiguang’s emergency clarification was not finalized, and Xu Guoyong, the spokesperson of the Executive Yuan, directly denies it. Related information.

After two months of shelving, there was an 815 blackout and everyone forgot about it.

■ The DPP who became the nuclear four gatekeeper

The proposal to allocate the cost of the nuclear fourth plant to the electricity price is based on the premise that the nuclear four must be maintained in the state of assets. As early as the July 2016 interim meeting of the Legislative Yuan, the forces of the times planned to delete the 1.146 billion yuan of the nuclear quad-blocking budget, which was actually blocked by Chen Manli, the non-district legislator of the Democratic Progressive Party, and only deleted 500 million yuan.

You know, Chen Manli was the most radical anti-nuclear power and anti-nuclear food activist when he was chairman of the Housewives League in the Malay government. When the position of the legislator turned to a major turn, the maintenance of the nuclear four closure budget, and the proposal to open food in the five counties of Fukushima, Japan, were carried out by her.

In November 2017, Taipower compiled a capital maintenance and management budget for the No. 4 Nuclear Plant at a rate of 850 million yuan. The Times Force also intends to remove it in full, and it is also the Democratic Progressive Party that rejects the proposal with a number of advantages, instead of reducing it by only 100 million yuan. The original four-year planned nuclear storage project will soon expire at the end of the year, and it will be quietly extended for another year in disguise.

Why did the Democratic Progressive Party not directly judge the death penalty of the Fourth Factory? Because they are very clear, if you do not continue to set storage budget, nuclear plant must be scrapped, Taipower fear will bankrupt, shake the country.

■ IAS that you are not playing casually

It is one thing that politicians play each other. In fact, it can be another thing.

The issue of nuclear fuel rods is a serious problem. The focus is not whether the nuclear energy will survive, but whether the nuclear fuel rods will be sent once, plus the government has repeatedly stated that the nuclear plant will never restart, according to the International Accounting Standards (IASs). Paragraph 7 of “No. 16 Property, Plant and Equipment” does not meet the conditions for “(a) the future economic benefits associated with the project is likely to flow into the company” and should not be recognized as an asset.

Even if the government argues that the nuclear power plant may sell the entire plant or convert to an integrated thermal power plant, its assets can still be used. According to paragraph 9 of the International Accounting Standard 36 “Assets Impairment”, “the enterprise should end the period of each reporting period. Assess whether there is any indication that the asset may be derogated. If any of these indications exist, the company should estimate the recoverable amount of the asset."

Since the use value of the operation of nuclear power plant No. 4 has been negated, the recyclable amount will only be a residual value of the equipment sold, and the asset impairment will also be nearly 300 billion yuan. More importantly, unless the government takes the lead in blatantly breaking the law, it will be necessary to abolish the expropriation of the original land for the construction of nuclear power plants and renew the procedures for the construction of the thermal power plant. The resistance is extremely large.

Until the 2025 non-nuclear homeland as stipulated in Article 95 of the Electricity Industry Law, Taipower also has the current obligation to decommission the Fourth Nuclear Plant. Since Nuclear No. 4 Plant does not generate electricity, unlike the nuclear No. 123 Plant, which has already raised 40 years of nuclear back-end funds, it must allocate another amount of funds to recognize the cost of decommissioning as a liability.

This does not include the major breach of contract by Taiwan Electric Power Company and the loss of international goodwill.

■ More serious problems than Taipower's bankruptcy

In any case, Taipower must recognize this huge loss. However, Taipower will never do it because it will go bankrupt. An Hou Jianye accounting firm, which is responsible for checking visas, will not take the initiative to conduct external audits because it will offend the government. As for the Ministry of Economic Affairs and the Audit Department, which are in charge of corporate operations and financial supervision in China, it is even more impossible to act.

Therefore, we once lost the credibility of the state-owned enterprise, the credibility of the accounting audit system, and the credibility of the government agencies, which ultimately led to the disappearance of Taiwan’s international credibility.

The nuclear power plant No. 4 produced twice as much electricity as the Shenzhen Power Plant. No pollution was found. The time required for unsealing nuclear plant No. 4 and the subsequent costs are much lower than those of a coal-fired power plant.

Compared with clean energy without carbon, the average cost of renewable energy is RMB 5 per unit, and the cost per unit of electricity generated by nuclear plant No. 4 is less than RMB 2 (the anti-nuclear organization Green Citizens Action Alliance is certified), and 20 billion kWh of electricity is generated each year. Annual savings of 60 billion yuan. With the construction cost of 300 billion yuan, the nuclear fourth factory will be able to earn back as long as it can trade for five years.

The Cai government, however, prefers to destroy the No. 4 nuclear power plant. It also has to choose the Shenao power plant, which conveys to the international investors the message that the Taiwan government lacks the concept of rationality and cost.

■ Calculate crazy half-life

The Cai government shouted that it should pay attention to the problem of air pollution and carbon emissions. While controlling raw coal, it has built a coal-fired power plant. As air pollution has become increasingly serious and anti-nuclear demonstrations have decayed from more than 200,000 to hundreds of people, they have deliberately dismantled the No. 4 nuclear plant and built large-scale thermal power plants.

Faced with a strong rebound in the public's voice, they guilely declared that anti-nuclearism is the consensus of the people and they are obstinate. This highlights the fact that President Tsai Ing-wen’s administration has no rules and the system is gone. The credit of the entire country no longer exists.

Well, now you know why I want to promote the repeal of the first paragraph of Article 95 of the Electricity Industry Law and the termination of the non-nuclear homeland rule to support the green referendum.

● This article is authorised by Huang Shixiu Yahoo Forum



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