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Chitchat Shd we be proud or shame of the British Empire ?

Discussion in 'The Courtyard Café' started by tanwahtiu, Aug 29, 2017.

  1. tanwahtiu

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    Looks like you still don't know how to embed youtube videos. :rolleyes:
     
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    Show me how to. Thanks.
     
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    The pommies are the better colonial powers amongst the thieves. They left behind a working administration and infrastructure. The worst are the Spanish. Their only legacy is Catholicism which is a natural breeding ground for child abuse and corruption
     
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    Thieves want money but not life and steal run quickly. But this bastard thieving for 50 years in opium trade at china doorsteps and refusing to stop when told enough is enough.

    50 years are long period of non stop thieving of a great nation China. 2 opium war trades and 1 invasion was not good enough for this shameless pommies?

    What so great about infrastuctures where the money came from drug trade money which is yr (drug addict) money.

    What so great about adninstration where their trading was not honest trading but lead to evil humanity suffering of others for thier greed.

    Jesus. This are not great race people who want to do you good. They wanna extinct and eradicated your entire races for their own greed.


    Australia and N America were 2 bad examples they hv extinct and eraducate aborginal tribes to trickle.


     
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    The spanish has God to bluff you. They dont hv evil doing od slaves trades and opium trades in massive scales.

    They dont go round cornered 1/3 of the world under their Empire. The started human slave trades and drug trafficking trades in Asia Singapore included.

    Hey as british governor of Singapore the BE was monopoly in opium trade here.

    Wtf is this race glorify for AMDK my jit kee lan.
     
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    And the like make $10 opium money from drug addicts, which are your non-white british Sujects, and give back $1 to build infrastructures and add 20 cents provide good adminstration. Both ways they also make moneys back to their fucking England queen Vic her cunt

    Knn. U call this type of race people great and worth glorify for?

    Knn fuck the pommies deep deep.
     
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    The Brits are paying back dearly for their past "misdeeds." Look at how the Pakis and Indians are doing in Leeds and Birmingham streets. (We don't see the Chinese doing the same!) As for China, she was a weak nation at that time in history. Every foreign country who waged war with China whacked her jialat jialat. Mostly the Nips. That was a lesson the Chinks learnt a great deal and needed to strenghten herself, which she is doing. If not for the brutal lessons learnt, China would still be living in a dreamworld built by dynastic idealism of Confucianism and Taoism. It was necessary that the Imperial Heathens of the Middle Kingdom got whacked and kicked into the twentieth century or they be stuck in the Medieval Middle Ages where they found comfort and good life. It was time for change. And the chinks can well be thankful to the Brits for the Opium War which propelled her to the inevitable social changes (to become a Republic). It all turned out good for the middle-kingdom.

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    Why should we have any feelings or sentiments of the Empire? We are not their subjects. As for the vast British Empire, it is no more. It wsa during the last Great War that nationalism among the colonies grew and indiependence was founght and gained.

    Actually for the those who are nationalistically inclined, some thanks ought to be shown to the Axis nations Germany and Japan for screwing the Brits and freeing their colonies. Wihtout which, the Brits would still be in charge of us.

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    Is our resident opium addict bitch proud of chinks massacring others?

    The Dzungars were a confederation of several Tibetan Buddhist Oirat Mongols tribes that emerged suddenly in the early 17th century. The Dzungar Khanate was the last great nomadic empire in Asia. Some scholars estimate that about 80% of the Dzungar population, or around 500,000 to 800,000 people, were killed by a combination of warfare and disease during or after the Qing conquest in 1755–1757.[4][5] After wiping out the native population of Dzungaria, the Qing government then resettled Han, Hui, Uyghur, and Xibe people on state farms in Dzungaria along with Manchu Bannermen to repopulate the area.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungar_genocide
     
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    By his hatred for the British colonial lords, he has turned into the monster he wishes to annihilate. Violence begets violence. I prefer China to be peaceful and am proud that in our history, China has never invaded any other nation. Until Tibet. Too bad for the Dalai Lama, his country is weak now. If China did not invade, India would. tough shit. It is better to be strong enough to repel any invading force.

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    Modern china invaded Vietnam in the 1970s.

    Qing China invaded many places. Its most notable successes were in Mongolia, Tibet, Qinghai and Xinjiang. The empire of the Great Qing was about twice the size of the Great Ming.
     
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    You cannot assumed your line of argument that if not for opium trade ... china will still be Qing and backward today.

    Under Qing China will learn to progress, with a healthy bank accounts, with no poverty stage, at their own pace.

    Many angmoh inventions takes time to learn and adopt the technologies to fit Chinese cultures.

    Give and take 20 years to fully developed into a 20th century China takes time.

    Not with drug trade at china doorsteps with vengences to destroy Chinese wealth and standard of living falling to below poverty level.

    This was evil white bastards plan to make China broke and ultimately invasion of China, by the french.

    Look at what they did to Syria now and the 7 States in ME today. U witness this in you life time the whites destroyed ME systematically.

    Starting w faking their 911 bombing to 杀鸡敬猴 their own American people to justify go destroy ME.




     
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    Should not blame the British or opium traders. The blame should squarely be on the weak and disunited Han Chinese people who could have seized the opportunity to overthrow the declining alien Qing dynasty after the end of the long reign of Emperor Qianlong. Manchus made up no more than 2% of the Chinese population and the Han Chinese could have made use of its numerical advantage and not have to wait for 100 years after Qianlong to start a revolution to end the Manchu rule of the country.
     
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    Dont hv to bring up irrelevant case to support yr claim. Unnecessarily bitching dont get u anywhere.



     
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    The Opium War only accelerated the coming inevitable social changes that were to take place in China. At the onset of that war, Britain already had a parliamentary type government, well on its way to the Industrial Revolution, China was still mired in the feudal system, its monarchy isolated and disconnected from the rest of the world and its developments. Things like the steam engine, mechanical technology and even steel works were unknown to the kingdom. With the Opium War, China was thrown into disarray and this gave a chance to its people (or at least some of them) to witness the technology that was ahead of them. What followed - the dynastic collapse, the Civil War, the people's revolution was what followed the events of the Opium War and its aftermath (the signing of the Unequal Treaties). This was what brought the world to China. Before the Opium War, there wasn't a single bank in China with the know-how of international currencies, to do trade with the outside world. The Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank (HSBC) brought that ability to the Middle Kingdom. And that was a British bank. Hong Kong became China's eyes to the outside world. All these came about as a result of the Opium War. What China is today, is the result of all those atrocities that happened in history. Just be glad that it wasn't our generation who suffered through it.

    What America does today just happens to its role and obligation as a world power. To maintain that status, some evilness is necessary. Can't be help. Btw, its not America who does these things, its the CIA.

    Cheers!

     
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    China "invaded" Vietnam only to teach them not to attack Cambodia. China only "intruded" and did not occupy Vietnam permanently. It was only a temporary occupation. As for Tibet, China has to. The tributaries that lead to the major waterways in China starts from Tibet. It is better to be in control of them, than to allow them into the hands of other nations, as for Tibet, if China had not done so, India would. So, its better to be a hammer than a nail. Modern China is now not a weak nation. In order to maintain its wealth, some exertion of her military power is necessary. From lessons learnt in the past, China cannot afford to be as passive as she was in history. She won't.

    Cheers!

     

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