Shane Todd's murder cover-up

[oldjunkee]

HOw coud someone who lived life to the fullest can commit suicide?

See the autopsy photos of Shane Todd strangled by a wire.

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[kongsimi]

mom, my life has been threatened if i dun call back call the us embassy.

These were the last words from Shane Todd.

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[Leongsam]

Re: Shane Todd cover up - The contradictions emerge

All evidences pointed to Murder!!!!

Should be "All EVIDENCE points to murder.....".

"Evidence" is a noun countable noun. You do not add an "s" to make it plural.

 

[oldjunkee]

Family Alleges Singapore Ignores Proof of Son's Murder

By MARTIN VAUGHAN

SINGAPORE—The mother of an American engineer found dead in Singapore in June 2012 on Wednesday accused local investigators of refusing to consider that her son could have been murdered and didn't commit suicide.

"We've given them computer forensic evidence, we've given them physical evidence," Mary Todd told reporters during a break on the third day of a two-week inquiry into the death of her son Shane Todd, who worked on sensitive research at a Singapore government-run institute. "All these things add up to murder, not suicide. And I'm very, very disappointed," Mrs. Todd said.

But lawyers for the Singapore government said Wednesday that the Todds have provided little material to back up their claim that Shane was murdered.

For the first three days of hearings, state witnesses explained how evidence points in one direction only: One day in June, Shane Todd wrote goodbye notes to his family, friends and co-workers and then took his own life.

The Todds insist there is more to the story and some of that will come out as the family calls its own witnesses in the inquiry next week.

Mr. Todd's body was found on June 24, 2012, just days after he quit his job as a researcher for Singapore's state-run Institute of Microelectronics. Rick and Mary Todd believe their son's death was related to the technology he was helping the Singapore government research.

The Todds questioned why Singapore authorities haven't done DNA testing on items found at the scene. A DNA scientist for the government told the inquiry Tuesday that such testing wouldn't produce meaningful results. When asked by reporters why DNA testing hadn't been done, lawyers for the government on Wednesday cited the testimony of the DNA scientist.

The family says it wants to know why the Singapore police accessed Shane's laptop and his phone, which police acknowledge, even though protocol dictates handing those items over to forensic IT specialists.

The family also said they have found evidence that Mr. Todd worked on a project that involved the institute and Chinese telecommunications firm Huawei Technologies Co.

Huawei and the institute have denied they were collaborating on research.

On Wednesday, Lim Chin Chin, director of a forensic chemistry and physics lab at Singapore's Health Sciences Authority, said experiments to simulate a self-hanging showed that it was feasible Mr. Todd could have hanged himself alone in his apartment, and that details of the scene described by police were consistent with such a scenario.

She described how in those experiments, her team used male subjects physically similar to Mr. Todd to re-create the scene, and used 88-kilogram weights to determine whether indentations found on a door in Mr. Todd's apartment could have been caused by the weight of his body.

One key question is related to the description of the scene by a police investigator who said that when Mr. Todd's body was found, the soles of his feet touched the floor, as he was suspended in an upright position. Ms. Lim tested a strap similar to the one found in Mr. Todd's apartment to see if the material would stretch so that his feet eventually would rest on the floor. She found that it did.

But government lawyers also said records from Mr. Todd's laptop showed that weeks before his death he had viewed a Web page with instructions on how to construct a hangman's noose.

Ms. Lim said the knot on the cord found in Mr. Todd's apartment matched the type of noose illustrated on that Web page.

 

[scroobal]

Re: Family Alleges Singapore Ignores Proof of Son's Murder

This lady is christian pastor. Ask her to proof the existence of god. What she and the father claimed to others now turned out to be poppycock. How can the family tell a blatant lie that they found the hard drive?

They are treating us like a bunch natives who have no clue what we a doing. When their own FBI discount their claims, they pretend that no such thing happened.

We Asians are bigger idiots. The legal bill is free. Any Singaporean who made similar allegations as they have done would be behind bars by now. The last time some PRC prostitute drowned in Sentosa Cove, the same shot from the family. The father was pretending that his daughter came to do honest work.

The PAP finds it easy throw Singaporean liberties to the dogs but foreigners are one step up.

 

[songsongpunggol]

FIrst they said Huawei not involved, now change story again!!

Todd linked to Huawei proposal, inquiry hears

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[songsongpunggol]

Hear the former FBI speech on Shane Todd"s suspicious death!

American engineer's death suicide or cyber-espionage?

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[lockeliberal]

Re: Hear the former FBI speech on Shane Todd"s suspicious death!

Dear Punggol,

If its state sanctioned murder, assassination there has to be motive , motive motive. In the world of espionage for the most number of successful state sanctioned murders and the most no of botched and blown operations we can discern the following. The deniable operations or covert ones have been traditionally the expertise of Mossad and the KGB or FSB.

Mossad

Scientists working on projects which will directly harm Isarel. Iranian Nuclear Scientist, Gerad Bull Hizbollad leaders and organisers, Hamas etc etc.

FSB.

Political Opponents. Pope, Poisoned Ricin Umbrellas, usually outsourced to some third party allied Intelligence agencies.

All successful operations whether deniable or not carry the risk of discovery. Mossad has been discovered before as has the KGB. So what was Todd working on that was so vital as to justify murdering him ?

GAM yes but not a GAM design but the base on which the design was supposed to be painted on. In effect a high tech canvas and paint but not not the complete picture. In short no motive. Btw read the business article as to how the Chinese were accessing Classified US defence contractors and getting terabytes of classified data. Put those two together and Todd is not worth killing


Locke

American engineer's death suicide or cyber-espionage?

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[songsongpunggol]

3.40AM his hardrive was accessed remotely!!

After he was killed!!

It must have been a coordinated effort to end his life!!

June 23rd 3.40am!!!!!

 

[zhihau]

Re: 3.40AM his hardrive was accessed remotely!!

After he was killed!!

KUA TIO GUI!

 

[laksaboy]

Re: 3.40AM his hardrive was accessed remotely!!

One thing I don't quite understand: if it were such an open-and-shut case of suicide as claimed by the investigators, why was there a need to confiscate his hard drive? Usually, computers are only seized for suspected criminal or terrorist activities.

If someone jumped off the roof of MBS or jumped into Bedok Reservoir and drowned, you don't confiscate the hard drive from his/her PC.

 

[singveld]

Re: Waste of coroner's time: Yankee Go Home!

you think the angmo killed by his pinoy gf ex bf?

 

[maxxi]

Re: 3.40AM his hardrive was accessed remotely!!

'Confiscate ?'

The mother found the external HD at the pre-war shophouse/apt.

SPF already already had the accessed the HD after the event.

 

[jw5]

Re: 3.40AM his hardrive was accessed remotely!!

Can the asshole clown who keeps embedding entire websites into the threads, please refrain from doing so?

Anyone who is on this forum is connected to the internet, just posting the link or giving the reference will be more than sufficient. If you can be bothered, copying the text is fine too. Embedding the entire website just makes you a teekee jackass.

Even zhihau saw it fit to give you an infraction, you must be a real teekee dumbass for him to do that.

 

[DuYunQi]

Re: 3.40AM his hardrive was accessed remotely!!

I can understand why the Todds were upset that the HD was accessed but not by forensic experts.

I can also understand police would want to take away any evidence, HD included, to verify if there was any info on them to support a murder, or a suicide.

Imagine if a person wanted to commit suicide.. but found it hard to write.. typing a note and sending it out via internet email might be a faster way. or posting on FB. These actions would leave "footprints" on the pcs or laptops. Taking the HD was logical to me.. but not having a forensic expert to access it sounds funny.

Furthermore.. whether it is suicide or not.. with suicide note or not.. I thought it would be logical to check for fingerprints to see if ANYONE else came into the house or was at the scene. I mean.. even if all looks fine.. checking for fingerprints doesn't hurt.. it might even produce evidence.. no?

The most weird thing is, why wasn't the stuff that was used to commit suicide (the towel or strap) tested for DNA? Seems like a laspe in procedure. I would have thought that you go through the steps, go through the motion to follow through procedure.. to ENSURE that all has been done.. even if nothing was found on the items.. you would have no one to say you didn't do it.

Now.. it seems that the ppl who were supposed to do their jobs.. seemed to have miss some simple procedures. Or is it because there was a huge spike in foreigners committing suicide... and therefore.. their reaction was "aiyah.. another one.. sure confirm suicide.. no need check liao" ??

Either way, this is a wake up call to the ppl in vital positions.. don't slack. Why have we been seeing so many instances of ppl in vital positions seeming making mistakes.. especially when most of them are very well paid individuals too???

 

[PUNISHER]

Re: 3.40AM his hardrive was accessed remotely!!

Either the police are too lazy to dust for fingerprint ( take alot of time ) or its a cover up . by the way Using DNA is a expensive process , the government will not use it unless they are sure its a murder . same as using hair for drug test . CNB won't use hair for testing drug consumption they just use urine test which is cheaper . By the way using hair to test for drug consumption very chun even after one year still can be detected . But normally they will not use hair drug test .

 

[scroobal]

Re: 3.40AM his hardrive was accessed remotely!!

I think we all having been watching too much CSI on Police shows.

People kill themselves all the time - hanging, jumping, etc. No Police Force in the world is going to dust for finger prints, take DNA, send all the storage drives (thumb, HD etc) to the forensic lab just because it is unnatural death. There must be a basis to do so. The world will come to a grinding halt and the Police Force will probably take up a bigger budget than the defence and maybe even the transport component. On a trivial point,some people have dozens of USB and storage device in their house.

His girlfriend found him. They would have drawn some level of understanding from her and formed their opinion including the state of the apartment. The autopsy reveals a lot. You cannot find a more qualified pathologist alive in Singapore as Dr Wee Keng Poh.

It also why a coroner's inquiry is held. Even before the inquiry, the Police must meet the coroner several times and these are the times when the coroner will ask the hard questions.

Only the coroner who is a member of judiciary can rule on the cause of death. Not the Police, his parents etc.

As someone correctly pointed out - what is the motive? With his death what has been accomplished? Who would benefit from his death?

Montana is no different from Ulu Tiram.

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Furthermore.. whether it is suicide or not.. with suicide note or not.. I thought it would be logical to check for fingerprints to see if ANYONE else came into the house or was at the scene. I mean.. even if all looks fine.. checking for fingerprints doesn't hurt.. it might even produce evidence.. no?

The most weird thing is, why wasn't the stuff that was used to commit suicide (the towel or strap) tested for DNA? Seems like a laspe in procedure. I would have thought that you go through the steps, go through the motion to follow through procedure.. to ENSURE that all has been done.. even if nothing was found on the items.. you would have no one to say you didn't do it.

Now.. it seems that the ppl who were supposed to do their jobs.. seemed to have miss some simple procedures. Or is it because there was a huge spike in foreigners committing suicide... and therefore.. their reaction was "aiyah.. another one.. sure confirm suicide.. no need check liao" ??

Either way, this is a wake up call to the ppl in vital positions.. don't slack. Why have we been seeing so many instances of ppl in vital positions seeming making mistakes.. especially when most of them are very well paid individuals too???

 

[escher]

Re: Family Alleges Singapore Ignores Proof of Son's Murder

The Todds questioned why Singapore authorities haven't done DNA testing on items found at the scene. A DNA scientist for the government told the inquiry Tuesday that such testing wouldn't produce meaningful results. When asked by reporters why DNA testing hadn't been done, lawyers for the government on Wednesday cited the testimony of the DNA scientist.

How nice!
Selfulfilling predictions and words and fucking coverup.

DNA will not produce meaningful results. So no need to do any analysis
And therefore no meaningful results.

Wah lah!

Case for fucking suicide all proven by the inept coverup
Police in charge of coverup all happy
The MIW who order the coverup also happy
Stooges trying to conceal the coverup also very happy.
After all , they were paid and paid to do song and dance here that Todd suicided.
They scream and yell it was a suicide.

Their very screaming and yelling convinced us more and more it is a fucking cover up.

 

[winnipegjets]

Re: Hear the former FBI speech on Shane Todd"s suspicious death!

If its state sanctioned murder, assassination there has to be motive , motive motive. In the world of espionage for the most number of successful state sanctioned murders and the most no of botched and blown operations we can discern the following. The deniable operations or covert ones have been traditionally the expertise of Mossad and the KGB or FSB.

The PRC thinks they are Mossad mah ...of course, they screw up and ask the PAP to help to cover up.

So what was Todd working on that was so vital as to justify murdering him ?

He knows that the sinkapore government was illegally transferring US technology to the Chinese.

GAM yes but not a GAM design but the base on which the design was supposed to be painted on. In effect a high tech canvas and paint but not not the complete picture. In short no motive.

Wow, you know all the details of the research. Todd says that IME is a 'dishonest' place.

Btw read the business article as to how the Chinese were accessing Classified US defence contractors and getting terabytes of classified data. Put those two together and Todd is not worth killing

The PRC goons overreacted (their spies in IME told HQ of the potential threat of expose) and killed Todd. There are other possible reasons. Who knows?
The main point is that someone didn't want Todd to talk about the PAP helping China acquire US technology.

 

[winnipegjets]

Re: 3.40AM his hardrive was accessed remotely!!

People kill themselves all the time - hanging, jumping, etc. No Police Force in the world is going to dust for finger prints, take DNA, send all the storage drives (thumb, HD etc) to the forensic lab just because it is unnatural death. There must be a basis to do so. The world will come to a grinding halt and the Police Force will probably take up a bigger budget than the defence and maybe even the transport component. On a trivial point,some people have dozens of USB and storage device in their house.

Perfect explanation of SPF ineptness.

His girlfriend found him. They would have drawn some level of understanding from her and formed their opinion including the state of the apartment. The autopsy reveals a lot. You cannot find a more qualified pathologist alive in Singapore as Dr Wee Keng Poh.

Most people who are there will not want to jeopardize their position by going against the PAP. If the PAP ask Wee to do what is necessary to cover up, he will. Successful people in the establishment are there at the pleasure of the PAP.

It also why a coroner's inquiry is held. Even before the inquiry, the Police must meet the coroner several times and these are the times when the coroner will ask the hard questions.
Only the coroner who is a member of judiciary can rule on the cause of death. Not the Police, his parents etc.

And the SPF told the parents of the deceased that it was suicide early on.

As someone correctly pointed out - what is the motive? With his death what has been accomplished? Who would benefit from his death?

How many times must the motive be repeated? To cover up sinkapore's role in helping PRC acquire US technology. Beneficiary - PAP and PRC.