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Selling my Zero 10X and buying a Dualtron Ultra

Leongsam

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Wish me luck because the Dualtrons are widow makers.

This baby has done more than 3000km without missing a beat!

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Leongsam

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As a huge scooter fan I am, I spend my free time looking for the next best model to try out. Lately, I have been really obsessed with speed, so I was skimming though reviews and top ten’s t find out which scooter to focus on next.

In most of the lists I have found, the top spots occupy scooters with up to 1500 W power. While that amount of power is impressive for such a small vehicle, none of them compares to the Dualtron Ultra.

Okay, let’s start this review by mentioning that the official manufacturer website of this scooter states that This scooter model does not fulfills the maximum speed, width and weight limit as per the physical criteria for personal mobility devices set by LTA”
They know what’s up.

Dualtron Ultra Review

The Dualtron Ultra has got two motors of 2,700W each (5400w), which makes it one of the most powerful scooters on the market. Hell, it can even be compared to electric bikes, (both by price and) by motor peak output. This thing is literally a rocket – just make sure it is legal to ride it on the street in your city. Or, you can use it to escape from the cops too, if you want to…

While this scooter is definitely a legend when it comes to motor power, my question was how does it do in other areas? Here is what I have found out.

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Riding experience

We all know the difference between a tractor and a race car. Both have powerful motors, though the first is meant to keep a slow but steady speed no matter the circumstances.

When I first saw the 2,400W motors power mark with a peak of 5400W+, I thought that the Dualtron Ultra was a racing scooter. For example, the Qiewa Q1 is only 800W and can reach a top speed of over 35 Mph! (56 Kmh).

I was not wrong, except that the Dualtron Ultra also features a quick acceleration off the line – at the point it’s easy to forget that this machine weights 37kg, which is almost twice the weight of the Qiewa. Its insane gradeability is yet another thing that makes this scooter so damn pleasant to drive.

This gets even more impressive considering the load limit of this machine – your speed and acceleration do not seem to be affected by the load, terrain or grade of the road. I can compare it to a tractor on a way – this vehicle feels unstoppable (especially compared to other scooters).

My driving experience with this scooter was quite unusual. This is definitely not the Xiaomi M365 you can see on the streets of some California cities. While I have enjoyed every bit of it, I would definitely not drive this on sidewalks even if it were legal to do so. But why?

Handling

This thing is heavy, okay? It weights 37 kg (81 lbs), making it one of the heaviest scooters I have ever had the pleasure to ride. Personally, I believe this is not an issue for this specific model – after all, the Dualtron Ultra is not your common scooter you are using to get to the metro station every day – There are way cheaper and lighter alternatives for that!

Do get me right, I do enjoy riding heavy scooters – the added weight of the device makes it somehow more stable and it just feels good to handle one. The problem starts when it comes the time to lift this bad boy to be able to do a sharp turn or to carry it inside a building/train/bus. This can be considered a pro only if you would like to ride somewhere and work on your biceps in the process.


Simply put, the Dualtron Ultra is a mini-motorcycle. The name ‘scooter’ is a bit misleading in this case. In fact, it might be a good idea to order this vehicle with a seat and drive it like a moped. If you add a basket, you can drive it to the grocery store and shop for the week.

What about the brakes? The Dualtron Ultra features dual disk and recuperative brakes. While I do find those quite good, I would not recommend you drive this scooter at full speed unless you have 100% visibility of what lays ahead. Make sure there are no curves or anything that would block your line of sight. This is because as with any fast scooter, you got to use the brakes sparingly when going at high speeds, otherwise you might easily lose balance and control of the vehicle.



Comfort

Again, do yourself a favor and order the vehicle with a seat. It costs $100 USD but it is totally worth it. The Dualtron Ultra is meant to be used to travel at long distances (for a scooter anyway) at fast speeds, which is why having a seat will make your trip way more comfortable.

The 11 inch wheels with ultra-wide tires are okay. While they are being advertised as something extra VIP, there are things one can expect from small wheels – Bumps are still noticeable when driving on uneven surfaces; It’s still a good idea to go slow when driving on dirt or gravel roads. Dualtron Ultra wheels are rated ‘offroad’, though this speaks of the stability of the vehicle rather than of the comfort.

That being said, there is a difference between this scooter and a $500 USD one. The dual suspensions are smooth – I would definitely love to see this kind of suspension on other, cheaper scooter models.

Now, what I do think is a great feature is the cruise control function. Simply put, it makes the DT Ultra even more enjoyable to drive. Considering the long battery life, I am very glad Minimotors has included it. Even though my hands don’t get tired easily, I do find the cruise control function enjoyable – it just makes the trip more pleasant. Plus, having your scooter go at a constant speed decreases battery consumption.

The scooter can be folded, though personally I’d use that feature to store the vehicle, not to transport it (unless you can easily lift and carry a weight of 37kg). That being said, this feature alone makes the Dualtron Ultra quite a great alternative to a motorcycle or even a moped – you can keep this scooter in your apartment room without any issues. If you have a car, you can also bring your scooter with you if you, say, are traveling to a different city for the weekend.


Power

True to its name, the DT Ultra comes with two motors rated 2,400W each. With a battery rated 60V and 35Ah, we get a total output of 2,072 Wh, which is insane even when compared to the scooters we can find in the top ten lists. For instance, the Quiewa Q1 features only half of that wattage.

The Dualtron Ultra features an instrument panel that allows you to choose from single or dual mode, as well as a three step speed adjustment. On max settings, the scooter can reach the 75-80 Kmh mark (on flat surface with a load of 75Kg). This setting of course will drain the battery quite fast.

As I’ve already mentioned before, you can drive on this scooter through hilly areas without any issues. The vehicle features a 70% gradeability (up to ~35°) given the right conditions – good grip with the asphalt, full battery, warm ambient temperature, no excessive load, etc.



Range
Dualtron Ultra offers decent battery life. Its maximum range is 120km (74 Mi) – considering you are transporting a weight of 75kg on a flat surface at a steady speed of 25kmh. This of course never happens in real life, which is why I would not expect this scooter to do more than 70-80 km in one single ride. Maybe around 100km if you are driving through a desert road that is flat and straight like an arrow.

While this is not bad, let’s not forget that the scooter can travel at a speed of up to 80 kmh. This means that you could, in theory, use it to travel between towns. Or, say, use it to go outside for camping or fishing, you name it. When it comes to functionality, I would rather compare it to an electric bike – add a seat and enjoy the long ride!

About battery charge time. This scooter features a huge heavy battery that takes 17 hours to charge when using the stock 2A power supply. If you add another, one, you can decrease that time to 8 hours. There is a premium 6.5A power supply (sold apart, obviously) that in theory charges the battery in 5 hours. My only complaint is that I can’t it through USB

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Build quality
As one could expect, this scooter can transport more weight than its smaller brothers. Unlike the so-popular Xiaomi M365 that can handle up to 100 kg (220 lbs) the Dualtron is rated for a rider of up to 150 kg (330 lbs). This is pretty impressive if we take into account the weight of the scooter itself.
It’s needless to say that this scooter feels rugged. You get what you pay for, and since you are paying $3000 USD, you are getting a very well-built and solid vehicle. Made of aluminum alloy, the Dualtron feels more solid than some mopeds I have had the chance to drive.


Additional Features

The scooter features a multi-functional LCD dashboard for the index finger. There, you can check the battery status and charge, the time, speed and voltage. Besides, it allows you to adjust different settings such as which motors to engage, what kind of brake to use, cruise mode and so on.
Illumination-wise, the Dualtron comes with LED headlights and taillights, as well as brake lights (can be turned off from the dashboard).

Dualtron Ultra Dashboard Settings
  • Max Speed: 80 Kmh (49 MPH)
  • Max Distance: 120 Km (74 Mi). Up to 170 Km if using only one engine with level 1 speed.
  • Charge Time: 17 – 8 – 5 hours, depending on the charger
  • Motor Wattage: Max 5,400W, dual motors rated 2,700 W each
  • Weight: 37 Kg (81 lb)
  • Max. Rider Capacity: 150 Kg (330 lb)
  • Gradeability: 70% (~35°)
  • Tire Size: 11 in Ultra-wide (90mm or 3.5″), air pressure 50psi
  • Recuperative and disk brake on both wheel
  • Lights: LED headlights and taillights, and brake lights
  • Folded dimensions: 1235x600x525 mm (48x23x20 inches)
  • Extended dimensions: 1235x600x1219 mm (48x23x47 inches)
  • Material: Frame and Handle made of aviation aluminum forging alloy, 6082-T6, Shafts: SCM440, Covers: polypropylene
  • Water and dust resistance IP54
 

Leongsam

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I feel so sorry for Sinkies and their nanny state government for banning these things as they are godsend. I've saved thousands of dollars in petrol since I started doing most of my commutes via e scooter.

They are best suited for road use and should not be ridden on footpaths. On suburban streets I go the same speed as the traffic ie between 40 to 50kph and have never had any issues with cars as at that speed as I'm not obstructing the flow of traffic. When the traffic gets heavy I can commute 20km in half the time it would take by car.

I feel I can single handedly save the planet if I keep upright long enough.
 
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syed putra

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Roads are meant for cars as their owners they pay taxes.scooters users do not. So who will finance maintaining roads if everybody users e scooters?
 

glockman

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Roads are meant for cars as their owners they pay taxes.scooters users do not. So who will finance maintaining roads if everybody users e scooters?
E-scooters are fine. As long the infrastructure supports their usage, riders are licensed and insured, and they pay road use tax. If any of those requirements is missing, it will become problematic in the long run.
 

Leongsam

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Roads are meant for cars as their owners they pay taxes.scooters users do not. So who will finance maintaining roads if everybody users e scooters?

The roads are financed by my annual rates bill so it does not whether what sort of vehicle I use as I have already paid for the infrastructure and its ongoing maintenance.

If you check the financial statements of the Singapore government you'll find the same scenario.
 

Hypocrite-The

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The roads are financed by my annual rates bill so it does not whether what sort of vehicle I use as I have already paid for the infrastructure and its ongoing maintenance.

If you check the financial statements of the Singapore government you'll find the same scenario.
Car owners pay road tax etc...e-scooters n cyclists do not.
 

syed putra

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E scooters are actually very good as its comoact. But those small tyres if it goes into a small pothole may throw rider out of balance.
Motorbikers are about 6 times more likely to meet a fatal accident compared to cars. E scooters?
 

Leongsam

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Car owners pay road tax etc...e-scooters n cyclists do not.

If you go according to that logic then a Toyota has to give way to a Ferrari because the latter pays 10x more road tax.

All road construction and maintenance comes from the consolidated fund which comes from ALL taxes and levies not just road tax.
 
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