Security at YOG demand that bottles that are not compliant to be throw into bin

[Watchman]

YOG at the ICC – bottles are to be thrown away

Security at YOG demand that bottles that are
not compliant to be throw into bin

August 21st, 2010 | Author: Your Correspondent

http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/08/21/yog-at-the-icc-bottles-are-to-be-thrown-away/

I have been working for the YOG as a volunteer but I am appalled at the way the security handles security matters.

When I reported for duty at 8am on Tuesday (17th Aug 2010) at International Convention Centre, at the so-called accreditation checkpoint, the guard asked me if I had any water bottles with me.

I happened to have one in my bag and he said I have to “drink it up” or throw it away. Right before me were also student volunteers who had to throw away all their bottles because they were not allowed to bring them in. I asked the guard why I had to throw the bottle away, all the did was to give me a stern and black face, with no replies at all.

Even if we said our bottles are gotten from the “Workforce Dining Area”, we were also not allowed to bring them in to our respective duty areas. Everytime before someone clears the accreditation checkpoint, bottles were repeatedly thrown into the bin, with most were not even opened yet.

What is this? This is a serious waste of resources despite them being sponsored.

The guards were unable to provide reasons why we had to throw all our bottles away. If they were unable to, why should listen to them? Since the bottles were taken from the place itself, I’m very certain that the bottles are in no way a threat to the ICC. Everyone will have to clear the checkpoint everytime they have finished visiting the Workforce Dining Area. This time again, bottles will be thrown away because of the strict regulations given by the guards.

If the bottles were still sealed, there is no way someone would have put explosives into it. I now know why everything is getting more expensive nowadays. Because we are always asked to throw things away with no reason provided.

 

[Ramseth]

All water bottles should have been banned, whether Nike, Adidas or whatever.

These are serious safety risks for terrorists to carry liquid explosives in.

There's no safe way of determining whether seal is untampered with hyperdermically.

Refreshment, whether soft drink or bottled water, should be served or sold on spot.

 

[Teo Kok Eng]

Why don't YOG install water coolers, solved all problems with water, water bottles etc.

Put a cooler before and after the security checkpoint so no volunteer can complain about no cooler before or after checkpoint.

 

[scoopdreams]

All water bottles should have been banned, whether Nike, Adidas or whatever.

These are serious safety risks for terrorists to carry liquid explosives in.

There's no safe way of determining whether seal is untampered with hyperdermically.

Refreshment, whether soft drink or bottled water, should be served or sold on spot.

There was a sci-fi short story on how robots, in order to ensure the safety of all human kind, placed all men and women under house arrest, and removed all material goods that pose a danger, including daily utensils.

Your kind of logic is of that sort. Singapore's government logic is of that sort - better an authoritarian govt and little civil liberties, than the risk of any "danger to the fabric of society".

 

[halsey02]

All water bottles should have been banned, whether Nike, Adidas or whatever.

These are serious safety risks for terrorists to carry liquid explosives in.

There's no safe way of determining whether seal is untampered with hyperdermically.

Refreshment, whether soft drink or bottled water, should be served or sold on spot.

You mean people have to line up, and drink water from sprout?? ha ha ha a Swiss graphic artist can slip in to a train depot..they migh as well ban water of all sorts..

 

[Ramseth]

There was a sci-fi short story on how robots, in order to ensure the safety of all human kind, placed all men and women under house arrest, and removed all material goods that pose a danger, including daily utensils.

Your kind of logic is of that sort. Singapore's government logic is of that sort - better an authoritarian govt and little civil liberties, than the risk of any "danger to the fabric of society".

No. You're way out of my logic. My logic is for places for mass public gatherings, not at homes. I don't mind people keep firearms at home to shoot robbers (self defence) or even to shoot each other when they quarrel (domestic violence at most). That's US 2nd Ammendment.

 

[scoopdreams]

No. You're way out of my logic. My logic is for places for mass public gatherings, not at homes. I don't mind people keep firearms at home to shoot robbers (self defence) or even to shoot each other when they quarrel (domestic violence at most). That's US 2nd Ammendment.

I like your personal flamebait statement of "you're way out of my logic". Then let me pose you a few questions:

Where do you draw the line? Do you think body-search should be imposed too in case deviants hide explosives up their crotches?

I was referring to water bottles here - may I know how did firearms come into te picture? Of course I would agree that firearms should not be brought into mass public gatherings... but water bottles???? What brought you to mention firearms? Please refrain from making a wild leap into rhetoric here.

Wouldn't you agree that they should have notified people of this vendetta against water-bottles first? or at least allowed them to place the bottles in custody only to be retrieved later?

 

[vamjok]

the concern is with bombs la. there are chemicals that are highly explosive but look harmlessly like water. eg. hydrogen peroxide. <---with this you can actually do some damage if you know what you are doing.

don't blame the dogs for not knowing it for many of the groundman are not well informed except a few. moreover the general public. but......i don't know if its a bit too much this time or is it necessary to raise the security to this level as high as the airport.

 

[Ramseth]

I like your personal flamebait statement of "you're way out of my logic". Then let me pose you a few questions:

Where do you draw the line? Do you think body-search should be imposed too in case deviants hide explosives up their crotches?

I was referring to water bottles here - may I know how did firearms come into te picture? Of course I would agree that firearms should not be brought into mass public gatherings... but water bottles???? What brought you to mention firearms? Please refrain from making a wild leap into rhetoric here.

Wouldn't you agree that they should have notified people of this vendetta against water-bottles first? or at least allowed them to place the bottles in custody only to be retrieved later?

Firearms are examples of even lower risks of mass casualties than explosives. Yes, police should have discretionary powers to bodysearch anyone found to be suspicious. Courteously and in privacy of course. I don't expect them to be able to bodysearch everyone. Logistic impossibility.

 

[blackmore]

Firearms are examples of even lower risks of mass casualties than explosives. Yes, police should have discretionary powers to bodysearch anyone found to be suspicious. Courteously and in privacy of course. I don't expect them to be able to bodysearch everyone. Logistic impossibility.

Agree with your logic, firearms do have the lower risks of casualty and damages comparatively to explosives or chemical outbreak are exponentially higher.

The jist of the matter is at security points, dogs only obey orders and are illogical to the point of stupidity. Most if these dogs are half past six trained in security matters and mostly go thru motion for the sake of their livelihood. they are very far from being professional or customer orientated in that aspect. Refer to Changi Airport screening is the best example on how professional these Cisco employed buggers are. Most of these buggers don;t even look like they past PSLE for that matter.

Walking past YOG venues, I see security personnels with lax attitude for the sake of doing their assign duties.

I really wonder if there is a serious threat to YOG security in general. Why there are no active deployment of police resources on all the venues. Let alone CBRE& EOD teams for that matter.

Everythings seems to be hyped up over nothing just to justify the over expenditure ?

 

[halsey02]

No. You're way out of my logic. My logic is for places for mass public gatherings, not at homes. I don't mind people keep firearms at home to shoot robbers (self defence) or even to shoot each other when they quarrel (domestic violence at most). That's US 2nd Ammendment.

Brother!, you are in hallucinating, we are talking about SINgapore...you keep fireworks at home, you are big trouble; you keep firearms, you won't seeing your home until you are dead and gone...

 

[Ramseth]

Brother!, you are in hallucinating, we are talking about SINgapore...you keep fireworks at home, you are big trouble; you keep firearms, you won't seeing your home until you are dead and gone...

I've had no problem keeping firearms and ammos at home. Just a matter of law by law. After I resigned, I returned them to police, that's all. I'd support a US 2nd Ammendment style public firearms ownership. However, think of it, too many idiots around. I don't really need firearms to defend myself or my home. Fists and blades will do.