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Leongsam

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Oh that's a must!

But even without other cars look how dangerous the crowding is. I think it is too much really.

They can always do staggered starts and then rank them by time.

Split them into groups with different seeding etc.

There are ways lah.

Wah lau one guy falls and causes domino effecr and tens maybe hundreds crash?

This sort of thing happens on snow covered slick roads also. A car crashes or a Semi truck crashes then all the cars coming cant see and crash into the truck and then boom boom boom.

You commenting about bike road racing is like me talking about ice hockey. :roflmao:
 

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The cycling terrorists at work

Fan who caused massive Tour de France crash arrested
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A woman who caused a massive pile-up during the Tour de France's opening stage has been arrested after handing herself in to French police.

Key points:
The woman faces a fine, but could also be subject to further legal action
Two riders were forced to abandon cycling's biggest race after the crash
Defending champion Tadej Pogačar took control with a blistering performance in the stage five time trial
Footage showed her looking in the other direction, apparently at a camera, and not at the approaching peloton.

The woman, who was not publicly identified, was arrested by gendarmes in the Finistère region on Wednesday local time.

They tracked her down based on "solid" accounts from people questioned this week, local radio station France Bleu Finistère said, citing a source close to the probe.

The Reuters news agency said the woman had been arrested after handing herself into a police station.

A woman holds a cardboard sign in front of a group of cyclists.
The woman fled the scene after the crash.( Supplied )
Tour de France deputy director Pierre-Yves Thouault told the AFP news agency: "We are suing this woman who behaved so badly."

German rider Jasha Sütterlin was unable to continue the stage, abandoning the race, while Marc Soler completed the stage but was later revealed to have suffered fractures in both arms, meaning he too was forced to abandon.

Eight other riders were seen by the race doctor, while many others suffered minor injuries.

The woman is likely to be fined 1,500 euros for endangering the riders, although several of those affected have hinted at taking further action.

Soler told Spanish daily newspaper La Vanguardia that he was thinking of suing the spectator.

"I don't know what to do, I'm thinking of taking the spectator to court, because that's an entire Tour thrown away and I feel a lot of anger," he said.

"It wasn't just a race incident, it was because of a spectator who obviously doesn't like cycling. All that preparation has gone into the bin."

Local police refused to comment on the reported arrest.

Fans gathering on the sides of roads and in villages as riders pass by is part of the tradition and charm of the Tour.

But the woman in question leaned into the path of cyclists with her sign that read "Allez Opi-Omi," a mix of French and German-language terms of endearment for grandparents: "Go Grandpa-Grandma."

Tadej Pogačar powers to time trial victory, cements race favouritism
Tadej Pogacar sticks his tongue out while riding, wearing a white skin suit
Tadej Pogačar laid down a marker in the opening time trial of the race.( AP: Christophe Ena, Pool )
In the day's racing, Slovenian defending champion Tadej Pogačar took control with a blistering performance in the stage five time trial.

Pogačar, who stunned compatriot Primož Roglič in the penultiumate time trial stage of last year's race, laid down a serious marker for his rivals with a blistering time on the 27.2km-long ride around Changé.

"Today was a really good day for me. I didn't do any mistakes," Pogačar said.

The 22-year-old UAE Team Emirates leader did not seize the yellow jersey, which remains on the shoulders of Mathieu van der Poel by a mere 8 seconds.

But he gained significant time over his main rivals, completing the technical course in 32 minutes at an average speed of 51kph.

Pogačar was 44 seconds faster than Roglič, while 2018 champion Geraint Thomas dropped 1 minute, 18 seconds.

His Ineos Grenadiers teammate Richard Carapaz, a former Giro champion with big ambitions at the Tour this year, was 1:44 off the pace.

Mathieu Van Der Poel rides with his mouth open, wearing a yellow skin suit
Mathieu van der Poel emptied the tank to stay in yellow for another day.( AP: Christophe Ena, Pool )
Their Australian teammate Richie Porte fared better, losing just 55 seconds, but as he lost significant time during the crash-marred Brittany stages earlier in the race, he still sits 3 minutes , 50 seconds off the pace overall.

The Tour is a race of attrition and remains wide open, with bigger tests to come in the mountain stages of the Alps and Pyrenees.

However, Pogačar proved last year — when he became the second-youngest winner in the race's history — that he can compete with the best climbers.

In addition, he has a stronger team this year, and the Tour is less mountainous.

More importantly, another long time trial will be on the program on the eve of the finish on the Champs-Élysées.

Roglič, who was Pogacar's main rival last year, said he was proud of his performance following his heavy crash two days earlier.

"It's hard, definitely. All the time trials are always very painful, let's say it like that," he said.

Thomas was also recovering from a crash and said he did the best he could.

"Obviously, I didn't feel 100 per cent, but I don't want to bang on about that, I tried to do what I could and it wasn't enough really," he said.

"I woke up this morning and felt terrible, but once I got going and loosened up it was better. It's just one of those things that you have to crack on and deal with — just keep fighting I guess."

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For the Tour riders, it’s just another day at work. Most were gentlemen enough and did not swear at the culprits.
 

Leongsam

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Lol! I dont know much about ice hockey really. Haha!

Cycling road races are like a chess game. You need all the pieces on the same board in order to play. Your suggestion of staggered starts is like saying the chess board is too cluttered with 32 pieces so lets use two boards with 16 pieces on each. :smile:
 

nayr69sg

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Cycling road races are like a chess game. You need all the pieces on the same board in order to play. Your suggestion of staggered starts is like saying the chess board is too cluttered with 32 pieces so lets use two boards with 16 pieces on each. :smile:

Yes but on the chess board my chess pieces dont end up broken with base missing or head missing once a while. Lol!
 

Leongsam

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Yes but on the chess board my chess pieces dont end up broken with base missing or head missing once a while. Lol!

It's part and parcel of the game. It is perfectly possible to win a road race far more safely by doing a solo breakaway or with a small group but you'll use up far more energy doing so. Sitting in the bunch saves you tons effort which you can then unleash towards the end of the race. The downside of course is that you risk coming a cropper.
 

nayr69sg

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It's part and parcel of the game. It is perfectly possible to win a road race far more safely by doing a solo breakaway or with a small group but you'll use up far more energy doing so. Sitting in the bunch saves you tons effort which you can then unleash towards the end of the race. The downside of course is that you risk coming a cropper.
Dangerous "game".

But I get what you mean. TDF. I am sure all the riders sign disclaimers and indemnify the organizers etc.

Which is why that spectator that caused that crash will have no charges pressed againsr her.
 

Leongsam

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Dangerous "game".

But I get what you mean. TDF. I am sure all the riders sign disclaimers and indemnify the organizers etc.

Which is why that spectator that caused that crash will have no charges pressed againsr her.

I am not familiar with the legalities around participating in professional cycling but any indemnity clause will have its limits. There have already been cases of cyclists suing organisers for dereliction of duty.

https://www.velonews.com/events/tour-de-france/nibalis-team-considering-legal-action-against-tour/

The spectator that caused the crash is being prosecuted by the French authorities.

https://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentr...who-caused-stage-1-crash-taken-police-custody
 

LordElrond

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Yes but on the chess board my chess pieces dont end up broken with base missing or head missing once a while. Lol!
There are measures to make it safer, and contingencies which the organisers could have opted for, eg, taking the timing at 8km to the finishing line so that the GC contenders don’t have to lose time and leave the bunch sprint to the sprinters.
 

Leongsam

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There are measures to make it safer, and contingencies which the organisers could have opted for, eg, taking the timing at 8km to the finishing line so that the GC contenders don’t have to lose time and leave the bunch sprint to the sprinters.

I hate sprinters. They are nothing more than wheel suckers.
 

LordElrond

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I hate sprinters. They are nothing more than wheel suckers.
So TDF should take the good doctor’s suggestion and separate the sprinters from the GC contenders. But then again you have people like MVDP who wants to have a go at everything
 

Leongsam

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So TDF should take the good doctor’s suggestion and separate the sprinters from the GC contenders. But then again you have people like MVDP who wants to have a go at everything

The problem with stage racing is that a big fuss is made about winning a stage. Let's do away with stage wins and just concentrate on the overall times.
 

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S’pore Bus Captain Catches Cyclists Riding Closely Behind, Urges LTA To Take Action



S’pore Bus Captain Catches Cyclists Riding Closely Behind, Urges LTA To Take Action​

They allegedly kept up with the bus which was driving at 50km/h.
By Iqmall Hayat

1 Jul 2021

Bus Captain Catches Cyclists Riding Closely In Rear View Camera​

Due to various road safety concerns, cyclists have come under scrutiny these days. The trend doesn’t seem to be ending, as some of them invited the ire of a bus captain recently.
Footage circulating on social media shows 2 cyclists riding closely behind a bus in Singapore.
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In the background, the bus captain can be heard explaining the difficult situation he was in as he showed the incriminating footage of the cyclists keeping up with the bus’s speed.

Bus captain shows driving speed & explains danger for cyclists​

On Thursday (1 Jul), a video of 2 cyclists riding closely behind a bus was shared on the Beh Chia Lor – Singapore Road Facebook page.

In the video, the bus driver showed that he was driving at roughly 50km/h and noted that the cyclists were keeping up with the speed.
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He mentioned that this happened on Tanah Merah Coast road, which has a dedicated cycling lane seasoned cyclists often use.

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But instead of using that lane, the driver highlighted that the cyclists were on the main road, tailing the bus a little too closely.

He added that should he have to brake suddenly, he’d likely have to take the blame for any accidents.
Towards the end of the video, a second man chipped in, urging the Land Transport Authority (LTA) to take action against these errant cyclists.
You can watch the whole video here.

MS News has reached out to LTA for comments and will update the article accordingly.

Cyclists should be responsible road users too​


While motorists make up the bulk of road users, the need to adhere to safety and traffic rules applies to all.

Cyclists should therefore be extra cautious on the road.
We hope that the authorities will look into this matter and step up regulations if need be. As for the cyclists, let this serve as a reminder to observe road safety rules so as not to put others in danger.
 

Leongsam

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S’pore Bus Captain Catches Cyclists Riding Closely Behind, Urges LTA To Take Action



S’pore Bus Captain Catches Cyclists Riding Closely Behind, Urges LTA To Take Action​

They allegedly kept up with the bus which was driving at 50km/h.
By Iqmall Hayat

1 Jul 2021

Bus Captain Catches Cyclists Riding Closely In Rear View Camera​

Due to various road safety concerns, cyclists have come under scrutiny these days. The trend doesn’t seem to be ending, as some of them invited the ire of a bus captain recently.
Footage circulating on social media shows 2 cyclists riding closely behind a bus in Singapore.
xbus-driver-catches-3.jpg.pagespeed.ic.Wg3L8Rlebp.webp
Source
In the background, the bus captain can be heard explaining the difficult situation he was in as he showed the incriminating footage of the cyclists keeping up with the bus’s speed.

Bus captain shows driving speed & explains danger for cyclists​

On Thursday (1 Jul), a video of 2 cyclists riding closely behind a bus was shared on the Beh Chia Lor – Singapore Road Facebook page.

In the video, the bus driver showed that he was driving at roughly 50km/h and noted that the cyclists were keeping up with the speed.
bus-driver-catches-1.gif.pagespeed.ce.1PSkE0mjpu.gif
Source
He mentioned that this happened on Tanah Merah Coast road, which has a dedicated cycling lane seasoned cyclists often use.

xbus-driver-catches-2.jpg.pagespeed.ic.oFtSJU2u7i.webp
Source
But instead of using that lane, the driver highlighted that the cyclists were on the main road, tailing the bus a little too closely.

He added that should he have to brake suddenly, he’d likely have to take the blame for any accidents.
Towards the end of the video, a second man chipped in, urging the Land Transport Authority (LTA) to take action against these errant cyclists.
You can watch the whole video here.

MS News has reached out to LTA for comments and will update the article accordingly.

Cyclists should be responsible road users too​


While motorists make up the bulk of road users, the need to adhere to safety and traffic rules applies to all.

Cyclists should therefore be extra cautious on the road.
We hope that the authorities will look into this matter and step up regulations if need be. As for the cyclists, let this serve as a reminder to observe road safety rules so as not to put others in danger.

There seems to be no pleasing motorists no matter what cyclists do.

When they ride slowly they are accused of holding up traffic. When they keep up with traffic they are then accused of riding dangerously.

50kph is no big deal for a well trained cyclist. The winner of today's Tour de France time trial averaged 51kph without having to follow a bus. In fact he wasn't even sweating at the end.
 

nayr69sg

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I am not familiar with the legalities around participating in professional cycling but any indemnity clause will have its limits. There have already been cases of cyclists suing organisers for dereliction of duty.

https://www.velonews.com/events/tour-de-france/nibalis-team-considering-legal-action-against-tour/

The spectator that caused the crash is being prosecuted by the French authorities.

https://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentr...who-caused-stage-1-crash-taken-police-custody
See no lawsuit. Charges dropped. My guess is the lawyer says the riders have wilingly put themselves at risk. And the TDF is the one negligent in allowinf spectators so close to the racing course. Counter sue.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57677393

Tour de France drops lawsuit over sign crash​

1 July 2021
The spectator can be seen holding a sign

IMAGE SOURCE,GENDARMERIE DU FINISTERE
Image caption,
The woman's cardboard sign caused one of the worst crashes in Tour de France history
The Tour de France has withdrawn a lawsuit against a spectator suspected of causing a huge crash by waving a sign in the riders' path on Saturday.
 

Hypocrite-The

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See no lawsuit. Charges dropped. My guess is the lawyer says the riders have wilingly put themselves at risk. And the TDF is the one negligent in allowinf spectators so close to the racing course. Counter sue.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57677393

Tour de France drops lawsuit over sign crash​

1 July 2021
The spectator can be seen holding a sign

IMAGE SOURCE,GENDARMERIE DU FINISTERE
Image caption,
The woman's cardboard sign caused one of the worst crashes in Tour de France history
The Tour de France has withdrawn a lawsuit against a spectator suspected of causing a huge crash by waving a sign in the riders' path on Saturday.
Good to see the cycling terrorists put in their place..if only singkieland was more strict with these self entitled terrorists parasites
 
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