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ROMANIA Tells Singapore Garment To "GO FUCK YOURSELF". And They Are Correct!

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Diplomatic immunity is diplomatic immunity. As long as he is in your country irregardless of what he does 24/7/365; he is under diplomatic immmunity.

THE FUCKING PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE SCUMS ARE TOO USED TO SHIFTING GOALPOSTS AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT WITH THEIR OWN CITIZENS.

WHEN THEY TRY THE SAME TACTIC WITH OTHER COUNTRIES, THEY ALWAYS GET FUCKED.

I hate the Romanian BASTARD for taking away a life. But DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY is 24/7/365....this is the NORM worldwide.

SCUMS THROWING SMOKE TO SHOW THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING.

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Diplomatic immunity

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Diplomatic immunity is a form of legal immunity and a policy held between governments, which ensures that diplomats are given safe passage and are considered not susceptible to lawsuit or prosecution under the host country's laws (although they can be expelled).

It was agreed as international law in the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations (1961), though the concept and custom have a much longer history. Many principles of diplomatic immunity are now considered to be customary law.

Diplomatic immunity as an institution developed to allow for the maintenance of government relations, including during periods of difficulties and even armed conflict. When receiving diplomats — who are, formally, representatives of the sovereign — the receiving head of state grants certain privileges and immunities to ensure that they may effectively carry out their duties, on the understanding that these will be provided on a reciprocal basis.

Originally, these privileges and immunities were granted on a bilateral, ad hoc basis, which led to misunderstandings and conflict, pressure on weaker states, and an inability for other states to judge which party was at fault.

Various international agreements known as the Vienna Conventions codified the rules and agreements, providing standards and privileges to all states.

It is possible for the official's home country to waive immunity; this tends to only happen when the individual has committed a serious crime, unconnected with their diplomatic role (as opposed to, say, allegations of spying), or has witnessed such a crime.

Alternatively, the home country may prosecute the individual. Many countries refuse to waive immunity as a matter of course; individuals have no authority to waive their own immunity (except perhaps in cases of defection).
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Our PAP government is only good at harsh handling the Opposition Parties Members in Singapore and the Singaporeans.

If they want to handle the foreigners or foreign talents, they(foreigners) will only have two words for our PAP government, "FUCK OFF"!
 
Interpol Red Notice of arrest against Silviu Ionescu suspended
By S Ramesh |Posted: 26 April 2010 1631 hrs
SINGAPORE: Singapore Foreign Minister George Yeo said Monday Interpol's Red Notice of arrest against Silviu Ionescu has been suspended.
This is due to disagreement between the two countries as to whether the Romanian diplomat had immunity at the time of accident last December.
During question time, Mr Yeo revealed that the Romanian Foreign Ministry sent Singapore a Third Party Note on Friday, asserting that Dr Ionescu's diplomatic immunity continues.
I think that the key pt here is that Romania is arguing based upon Article 31(1) and (4), for which I believe that they are amply correct at this point of time.
A31.1 states: "A diplomatic agent shall enjoy immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving State. ..."
A31.4 states: "The immunity of a diplomatic agent from the jurisdiction of the receiving State does not exempt him from the jurisdiction of the sending State."
I must add however, that I think the key to solving this problem is in the understanding the spirit in which the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations (VCDR) (please click on the link, the preamble is contained in the first few sentences, sentence 2 and 3 being the most important).
"We are puzzled as it seems to imply that Romania is now claiming that Dr Ionescu was engaged in official duties at the time of the accident and we do not understand how this can possibly be the case," Mr Yeo explained.
So since Ionescu was indeed a 'diplomat' at time of the accident, and with Article 31.1 stating in clear English: "A diplomatic agent shall enjoy immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving State. ...", why is our Minister accusing the Romanian Gov of classifying Ionescu's drunken night out as "official duties"? As far as I know, Ionescu, committing the offense whilst serving as a diplomat is immune to SG laws by agreement, period.
Article 31.4 provides recourse to that, and Romania, now salvaging its pride, should be rightfully be allowed to uphold it's side of the bargain according to the prior agreement.
Hath our own Minister lapsed in his appreciation of the spirit of the VCDR as mentioned in the short preamble paragraph: ".... the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations concerning the sovereign equality of States, the maintenance of international peace and security, and the promotion of friendly relations among nations,..."?
So if in the first place, if Singapore indeed accepts Romania as a "sovereign state", and through the VCDR accepted the validity of Romanian laws and persecution system as applicable to its diplomats, then in accordance to VCDR Article 31.4, shouldn't Singapore should allow Romania opportunity to perform its rightful part in solving this problem?
Singapore's back peddling and insinuations about the credibility of the Romanian Government are thus inappropriate and insulting.

"On the other hand, reports in the Romanian media suggest that some of Dr Ionescu's assets had been seized and the Romanian police may be preparing to arrest him. We have not been unable(sic) to confirm these reports.
Romania's time-line of case, published by TODAY newspaper (10Apr2010) is viewable here. I think that the Romanians are doing all that is reasonable in cooperating with the Singapore investigations/ persecution. Singapore should learn to cooperate better with the Romanian effort.
"But the Romanian Police has informed Interpol that the competence to prosecute Dr Ionescu remains with Romania and the criminal proceedings against him have started in Romania for crimes committed in Singapore."
Ditto explained as above. Singaporean politicians, as usual, never give any others a chance to speak.

Nonetheless, Mr Yeo, who met his Romanian counterpart at the Vatican a few days ago, said the Romanian government has been acting properly in Dr Silveo Ionescu's case.
Wayang show... diplomacy by coincidence... Romanian ambassador to Singapore n their current 'chargé d'affaires' already should be contactable by phone 24/7 n the Minister must make a big report out of a chance meeting, as announcement of our Minister's great luck and commitment to this cause har?

He said Singapore has to allow them time to go through their own internal procedures.
From 'Romania's MFA gives its account': "Feb 11 Romania’s Justice Minister asks Singapore to set up a joint commission on the case. Singapore says the proposal was made in letter dated Feb 24 and conveyed to the Republic only on March 8."..."Singapore's MFA explained to Mr Neagu on Friday(9April) that it was not possible to have formed the JTWG, which will collate such details, sooner than March 31 - which was when the Coroner gave his findings." ... quite a circus the way these 2 MFAs communicate... even after almost '43 years of diplomatic relations'- (quote: 8April report-'International search warrant for Romanian diplomat Silviu Ionescu').

"I believe the Romanian Government understands this and would not see the entire country's name tarnished by the actions of one rogue diplomat," Mr Yeo said. "Romania is a member state of the EU, which prides itself on its reputation as a community of values.
"Despite the impatience that we feel, we must however be disciplined and carefully observe due process. We are a country that respects the law and this reputation is an invaluable asset we must preserve by handling the case calmly in accordance with our legal system and international legal obligations.
"Now that the Romanian Authorities have begun their criminal investigations against Dr Ionescu we must give them time to complete these investigations and not prejudge the outcome."
Yes, n Singapore too should start reading about Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations front to back and not the reverse, so as to avoid 'putting the cart before the horse', and thus offending others unwittingly. Calling upon the police to solve a 'problem amongst neighbors', only to have the 'arrest request' suspended; to think that this still happens after almost 43years of mutual relations is telling upon the finesse, or lack of, in which Singapore deals with its foreign relations.

Mr Yeo said he hopes officials and legal experts from both sides could meet soon, under a joint working group that has been formed for this purpose.
Singapore is also engaging a lawyer to hold a watching brief in Romania.
- CNA/yb
So please, can the both countries please stick with prior agreements, stop all this stupid public posturing, and show some commitment to our commitments and mutual agreements, for once, because 43 years is a long standing relationship; and I'm sure that the citizens of both countries are expecting some positive results soon.
We have wasted enough time on this drunken and noisy clown, anyone game now for the real work of diplomacy?

References:
- Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations
- INTERPOL Notices & Diffusions
- [13Jan2010] Quiet diplomacy not a sign of weakness
- [MyPaper 23Feb2010] Let Romania deal with diplomat
- "România and Singapore established on 30 May 1967, diplomatic relations between the embassies according to the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs."(8April2010: Bucharestherald.ro) International search warrant for Romanian diplomat Silviu Ionescu
- 18April2010: Ionescu Interpol Notice withdrawn?
 
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pity our mr yeo now also kana taken for joyride n fucked loud n clear.
 
pity our mr yeo now also kana taken for joyride n fucked loud n clear.

Problem is our million-dollar-salary Mr. Yeo did not even know he is being fxxked by the foreigners.

Wonder why we pay that million-dollar of salary for a clown. We can have a entire circus of them with that amount.
 


THE FUCKING PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE SCUMS ARE TOO USED TO SHIFTING GOALPOSTS AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT WITH THEIR OWN CITIZENS.

WHEN THEY TRY THE SAME TACTIC WITH OTHER COUNTRIES, THEY ALWAYS GET FUCKED.

I hate the Romanian BASTARD for taking away a life. But DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY is 24/7/365....this is the NORM worldwide.

SCUMS THROWING SMOKE TO SHOW THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING.

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That is because sinkies like you only type in the forum and do nothing offline. Angry for what.. you got no balls to do anything, you deserve to be fucked by your sinkie govt.
 
Thanks bic_cherry for a clear clarification.

Just goes to show Singapore is really flyweight when it comes to the LAW OF THE WORLD. Everything also try to kelong and try to get away with it.

It only goes to show that even when there is NO CASE unless Romania decides to send him back here; THE SCUMS will pretend they have a case and conduct their USUAL WAYANG FOR SINGAPOREANS to consume.

The REAL QUESTION here is would they have gone through all this WAYANG if the person killed is a SINGAPOREAN and not a FT? Or would the answer be "What to do it happened, let's move on"?

BTW, let's all ignore the BASTARD TONYCHAT in this thread and other threads as well.
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Our PAP government is only good at harsh handling the Opposition Parties Members in Singapore and the Singaporeans.

If they want to handle the foreigners or foreign talents, they(foreigners) will only have two words for our PAP government, "FUCK OFF"!

Great leader lky/family will haul those fucking Romanians to leeapore courts, then they[Romanians] will become bankrupts.
 
Hmmm.......... maybe Georgie can ask Jack Neo to help out this time, who can then ask Wendy to lure that jerk back to Sinkapoor.:D
 
Yes another reason for OPPOSITION to note.


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1) Not to do so will give the PAP another undeserved win this coming General Elections
2) When all seats are contested the People will have an opportunity to vote the people they want to represent them in Parliament
3) The results will be irrefutable no matter how much gerrymeandering the PAP employ the true level of support for the candidates will be the result
4) There will be no excuse that "I did not get the chance to vote"
5) To prevent useless coat tail politicians getting into Parliament and then sleep in Parliament
6) To ensure that Parliamentarians ATTEND Parliament not the miserable attendance record the current MPs. show
7) To ensure that there is real Democracy
8) To return power to the People not hand power to a bunch of self serving; greedy, mercenary politicians
9) To ensure the rights and privileges remain the rights and privileges of Citizens not wrongly given away to Foreigners
10) To ensure there is lively and true debate on any important legislation that affects citizens.
The Opposition must do their bit like what the Americans did in 2004 (although they lost by a Court Decision) The Presidential Elections in 2004 for the first time saw unprecedented amount of young Americans voting. And Michael Moores movie "Slackers Uprising" in no small way woke up the American Public....which eventually saw the Democrats win the latest Presidential Elections.
Now in Singapore it is the Opposition who has to perform the "Slackers Uprising" by fielding all seats so that the Voters can without doubt show that they are totally fed up with the current PAP Government.
Those who are keen should watch the Movie for free in You Tube "Slackers Uprising" produced by Michael Moore and learn how the current President with some help from ordinary citizens won the Race against the powerful Republican party...

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That is because sinkies like you only type in the forum and do nothing offline. Angry for what.. you got no balls to do anything, you deserve to be fucked by your sinkie govt.

We all behave like quiet dogs .
Because PAP ruling party only persecutes locals .
But sing praises for FTs and foreigners .
 
That is because sinkies like you only type in the forum and do nothing offline. Angry for what.. you got no balls to do anything, you deserve to be fucked by your sinkie govt.

U berry funny leh...Thais r not much better off lah...Thugsin still masquerading around - even suka suka fly to Cambodia - yet Thailand lan lan cannot do anything...LOL

he don't have immunity some more leh....LOL....:p
 
Not just the country, He also FUCKED our Girls!

NEWS reports in Romania have linked former Romanian diplomat Silviu Ionescu to a local company there that allegedly recruits girls to become 'escorts in the most fashionable karaoke clubs in Singapore', The New Paper reported on Wednesday.

Adevarul (The Truth), one of Romania's top daily newspapers, reported that the former charge de'affaires to Singapore had lent 28,000 euros (S$53,000) to the company, Elaboration Ltd, which is said to be run by his close friend, Mr George Karastergios, a Greek national.

The Romanian reports also link Dr Ionescu, 49, to a traffic accident in Thessaloniki, the second largest city in Greece, six years ago, after which he claimed the other driver tried to blackmail him, said TNP.
 
Not just the country, He also FUCKED our Girls!

NEWS reports in Romania have linked former Romanian diplomat Silviu Ionescu to a local company there that allegedly recruits girls to become 'escorts in the most fashionable karaoke clubs in Singapore', The New Paper reported on Wednesday.

Adevarul (The Truth), one of Romania's top daily newspapers, reported that the former charge de'affaires to Singapore had lent 28,000 euros (S$53,000) to the company, Elaboration Ltd, which is said to be run by his close friend, Mr George Karastergios, a Greek national.

The Romanian reports also link Dr Ionescu, 49, to a traffic accident in Thessaloniki, the second largest city in Greece, six years ago, after which he claimed the other driver tried to blackmail him, said TNP.

it is a joke, isn't it. Is Romania telling us that part of that fat fucker's official duties is to act as pimp to recruit girls? Or he is using that as a cover to recruit secret agents? And hence, all this while the Diplo Immunity is protecting him like a fucking condom?

come on, Romania thinks the avg IQ of Singaporeans is 12?
 
it is a joke, isn't it. Is Romania telling us that part of that fat fucker's official duties is to act as pimp to recruit girls? Or he is using that as a cover to recruit secret agents? And hence, all this while the Diplo Immunity is protecting him like a fucking condom?

come on, Romania thinks the avg IQ of Singaporeans is 12?

Do not believe all these BULLSHIT about "on official duty or not".

As long as he is under DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY, he can be peeing from the top of a HDB at some SCUMS walkabout and he is still covered by DI.

When he is sleeping at night, he is covered by DI.

When he is screwing, he is covered by DI.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "ON OFFICIAL DUTY OR NOT". THAT IS RUBBISH FOR SINGAPOREANS TO BELIEVE.


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The Interpol warrant issued, now suspended, is the biggest joke and embarrassment the international diplomatic community has seen for quite a long while.

The Interpol President now is Singapore ex-Police Commisser Khoo Boon Hui, also Deputy Secretary to Minister for Home Affairs, Wong Kan Seng.

Minister for Foreign Affairs George Yeo apparently concocted up such a thing as a diplomat for a few hours was acting in personal capacity out of diplomatic immunity, and Interpol accepted the story and issued the warrant, only to have it suspended later when discovered that there's no such law in international diplomacy.
 
I strongly believe that the DIPLOMATIC community in Singapore i.e. the US, Russia, PRC, France, Britain etc must have rang alarm bells when the INTERPOL warrant was issued based on a "shifting of goal posts" rule; kelonged by the SCUMS.

I guarantee the INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNITY would have met and have non of that kelonged rule change.

The rest is history. One peesai vs the rest of the world?

Very shameful!

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As long as he is in your country irregardless of what he does 24/7/365; he is under diplomatic immmunity.

Irregardless is not a correct word...regardless is the word...
 
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