regarding tithes in churches

[lianbeng]

lianbeng also never go to church how to know? just read from the Bible only mah!

 

[palden]

You are robbing god if you don't give.

 

[KopiO]

Regarding t.i.t.s in churches .......

Look below them and you'll be rewarded in your holey search.

 

[chootchiew]

Tithes are monthly donations to the church, usually 10% of your monthly salary. They either get the money in a sealed envelope with your name on it, or auto-deduct from your bank account.

Offerings are anonymous. Offerings are when you seated during a service (or standing up to sing) and an offering bag (or plate) is passed around the congregation, and you take out money from your wallet and put directly inside the offering bag.
There are also numerous other funds for donating money e.g. mission funds, building funds.

What an investment eh? Give all your money for social acceptance among like-minded believers and the promise of a blissful afterlife.

Does anyone ever caught taking out money from the bag instead of putting in ?

 

[lianbeng]

Does anyone ever caught taking out money from the bag instead of putting in ?

lianbeng replies: i know Judas Iscariot did but not sure now!

 

[Frodo]

You are robbing god if you don't give.

Your mistake is akin to not seeing the difference between taxes and donations.

 

[laksa]

The very fact that those envelopes have a blank space for you to fill your name (among other details) indicate that you are encouraged to not be anonymous.

Even the act of picking up 12 envelopes is despicable... CPF has already whittled down your monthly disposable income, and now you are expected to give more money each month.

You aren't robbing God but robbing the pockets of the middlemen selling a church business, but they sure frequently use that Malachi verse to shame you into giving your money to them.

Church goers have many options:

1) Take the envelope, place some money, write your name on the envelope, return the envelope each month

2) Take the envelope, place some money but don't write your name on the envelope, return the envelope each month

3) Take the envelope, place nothing in the envelope and don't write your name on the envelope, return the envelope each month (this case does not happen)

4) Don't take the envelope, nothing to return each month

5) Use your own envelope to put the money (these people are normally irregular donors, they do not want to take the 12 envelopes because they do not donate monthly. But then there is nothing stopping them from taking 12 envelopes and not using all the 12 envelopes)

6) Do nothing. It is not a requirement to make a offering or tithe each month. All people are welcome to church. The church (in this case the Methodist church) does not force people to donate to the church. The tithe does not even have to be 10% of income. Any amount is okay, that is why the Methodist church allows anonymous tithes and does not have GIRO nonsense. But again it is alright if you choose not to give a single cent as the church does not force people to donate.

 

[Frodo]

Church goers have many options:

1) Take the envelope, place some money, write your name on the envelope, return the envelope each month

2) Take the envelope, place some money but don't write your name on the envelope, return the envelope each month

3) Take the envelope, place nothing in the envelope and don't write your name on the envelope, return the envelope each month (this case does not happen)

4) Don't take the envelope, nothing to return each month

5) Use your own envelope to put the money (these people are normally irregular donors, they do not want to take the 12 envelopes because they do not donate monthly. But then there is nothing stopping them from taking 12 envelopes and not using all the 12 envelopes)

6) Do nothing. It is not a requirement to make a offering or tithe each month. All people are welcome to church. The church (in this case the Methodist church) does not force people to donate to the church. The tithe does not even have to be 10% of income. Any amount is okay, that is why the Methodist church allows anonymous tithes and does not have GIRO nonsense. But again it is alright if you choose not to give a single cent as the church does not force people to donate.

I think church leaders have to teach clearly that while tithing is mentioned in the NT it is not taught as a requirement or duty upon the Christian. What is taught is free will giving i.e. not under compulsion to support apostolic ministry and the relief of the saints in need.

 

[Agoraphobic]

Does anyone ever caught taking out money from the bag instead of putting in ?

A school friend of mine told me he used to take the coins from the donation box in his school's chapel for his cigarette money. He was also a server boy for the church his family attends (told me that was where he picked up smoking). This catholic boy was a rascal and a thief during his youth, today he is a well-mannered, tax-paying family man whose only vice is drinking beer at the kopitiam, looks like his God forgave him for his sins and blessed him with a peaceful life.

Cheers!

 

[lianbeng]

lianbeng says: not happy dun give lah!

 

[halsey02]

A school friend of mine told me he used to take the coins from the donation box in his school's chapel for his cigarette money. He was also a server boy for the church his family attends (told me that was where he picked up smoking). This catholic boy was a rascal and a thief during his youth, today he is a well-mannered, tax-paying family man whose only vice is drinking beer at the kopitiam, looks like his God forgave him for his sins and blessed him with a peaceful life.

Cheers!

There is a Chinese saying that, "if you guard the well, you will draw some water to drink,occasionally"..sounds familiar?? But the trouble is, those who guard the well, will make it so deep, & build an illusion that the well if you look from the top always look full of water..but the fact is, it is half empty & there are pipes draining the water away at the bottom, each time the well is being filled.

At least this server boy did good, became a good citizen , whether good in the eyes of God, we do not know. The same goes for those "keeper of the well".

 

[chootchiew]

A school friend of mine told me he used to take the coins from the donation box in his school's chapel for his cigarette money. He was also a server boy for the church his family attends (told me that was where he picked up smoking). This catholic boy was a rascal and a thief during his youth, today he is a well-mannered, tax-paying family man whose only vice is drinking beer at the kopitiam, looks like his God forgave him for his sins and blessed him with a peaceful life.

Cheers!

I was thinking if every sun can go to diff church for diff services, and instead of give I take a bit a bit from the bag, it can be good income too becos I see worshipper dipped into the bags so secretly and silently, who knows they are putting or removing $ from it

 

[chootchiew]

lianbeng replies: i know Judas Iscariot did but not sure now!

Who is Judas ? Is he/she a Christian ? Will the thief be punished by god ?