[Reddit Logic] 4 REASONS why SG government is managing the COVID-19 better than Hong Kong government

[Hypocrite-The]

Complacency is equally dangerous. You are not in sinkieland, you wouldn't know the atmosphere here.

Oh yes. Horde food by queuing at the supermarkets and queuing for face masks.. wont tat make it easier to spread?

 

[hofmann]

Good read, thanks. I have inserted the part I find informative. So, let's not make the mistake of brushing this off as less lethal than the flu.

World Health Organization: too early to make conclusive statements
The World Health Organization (WHO) had mentioned 2% as a mortality rate estimate in a press conference on Wednesday, January 29 [1][2] and again on February 10. However, on January 29 WHO specified that this is a very early and provisional estimate that may change. Surveillance is increasing, within China but also globally, but at the time:

1. We don't know how many were infected ("When you look at how many people have died, you need to look at how many people where infected, and right now we don't know that number. So it is early to put a percentage on that."[1][2]).
2. The only number currently known is how many people have died out of those who have been reported to the WHO.
3. It is therefore very early to make any conclusive statements about what the overall mortality rate will be for the novel coronavirus, according to the World Health Organization [1][2]

Agree very much with this!

Logically speaking, it's safe to assume the infection rates are much higher due to testing only of the severe cases. Can't recall but read some estimate that only 10% of cases are being diagnosed in China.

Assuming this is true, the mortality rate falls by a factor of 10!

Nonetheless I will be responsible and cancel my business trips for fear of scaring my clients. Right now the Singapore brand name is being dragged through m&d despite our best intentions at transparency. We put ourselves on the world news headlines because of our efficiency at detection. One of those life's ironies.

 

[glockman]

Oh yes. Horde food by queuing at the supermarkets and queuing for face masks.. wont tat make it easier to spread?

Oh yah, that was totally retarded! I couldn't believe it too. And don't forget hand sanitizers!

 

[Leongsam]

Oh yah, that was totally retarded! I couldn't believe it too. And don't forget hand sanitizers!

The number of morons in this world will always outnumber the number of masks they want to purchase.

 

[glockman]

Agree very much with this!

Logically speaking, it's safe to assume the infection rates are much higher due to testing only of the severe cases. Can't recall but read some estimate that only 10% of cases are being diagnosed in China.

Assuming this is true, the mortality rate falls by a factor of 10!

Nonetheless I will be responsible and cancel my business trips for fear of scaring my clients. Right now the Singapore brand name is being dragged through m&d despite our best intentions at transparency. We put ourselves on the world news headlines because of our efficiency at detection. One of those life's ironies.

Yes, still lots of unknown and experts are still grappling with facts and numbers.

I think Sinkieland will eventually come out of this smelling like a rose. But whilst we're still in the thick of it, let common sense prevail, stay vigilant and not lapse into complacency. Also, not be too kiasu, kiasi. Can't believe those people who wore goggles and face masks to the supermarket? Or that chap with the full bio-chem mask on the mrt? Walau eh!

 

[Rogue Trader]

HK is a slum that's why diseases usually get out of control when they hit

 

[hofmann]

Yes, still lots of unknown and experts are still grappling with facts and numbers.

I think Sinkieland will eventually come out of this smelling like a rose. But whilst we're still in the thick of it, let common sense prevail, stay vigilant and not lapse into complacency. Also, not be too kiasu, kiasi. Can't believe those people who wore goggles and face masks to the supermarket? Or that chap with the full bio-chem mask on the mrt? Walau eh!

You got $1800 to spare?

https://www.durasafe.com.sg/shop/ka...g-level-a-chemical-suit-orange-size-lxl-2x3x/

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Indonland does not even bother about the wuhan virus n its business as usual..so wat gives?

Indonesia has done 'very well' in handling its nationals evacuated from Hubei: WHO
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A total of 285 Indonesians were quarantined for 14 days on Indonesia's Natuna island following their return from Hubei. (Photo: Indonesia's National Disaster Agency)
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JAKARTA: Indonesia has done a good job in handling its evacuees from China's Hubei province, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Saturday (Feb 15).

Hubei's capital Wuhan is the epicentre of the ongoing COVID-19 outbreak, which has claimed more than 1,500 lives in China.

WHO's Indonesia representative, Dr Navaratnasamy Paranietharan, was on hand to welcome 285 evacuees back to Jakarta after they spent 14 days in quarantine on Indonesia’s Natuna island.

The evacuees, which comprised 238 Indonesian citizens who lived in Hubei and Indonesian officials and Batik Air Crew who were involved in the evacuation process, were flown to Jakarta's Halim Perdanakusuma airport on Saturday afternoon.

“It was very well done, everyone was healthy. And mentally as well, they were kept healthy because if you usually (confine) people it is important that they are mentally healthy as well," said Dr Navaratnasamy.

"They were exercising and there were other sessions to keep them together, and I think the job was done very well; kudos to the government of Indonesia. Well done."

Concerns have been raised in recent days over whether Indonesia was carrying out thorough checks amid the novel coronavirus outbreak, as the country had yet to record a single infected case of COVID-19.

Indonesia has direct air links to several Chinese cities, including Wuhan.

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The majority of Indonesian evacuees are students. (Photo: Indonesia's National Disaster Agency)
Responding to CNA’s query on how Indonesia had done so far, Dr Navaratnasamy said: “As of this morning, the health research and development agency had tested 92 suspect cases. Ninety of them tested negative and that’s the same information I have."

The Indonesian representative of WHO also said that the evacuees did not have COVID-19 because they had not come into close contact with someone who had the disease.

"If you ask me why the evacuees did not get the coronavirus, it's because they did not come into close contact with somebody who already had the coronavirus. As simple as that," he said.

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A total of 285 Indonesians have arrived in Jakarta's Halim Perdanakusuma airport on Saturday (Feb 15) following a 14 days quarantine period on Natuna Island. (Photo: Indonesia's National Disaster Agency)
14 DAYS QUARANTINE PERIOD ENOUGH

When asked whether the 14 days incubation period of the evacuees was enough as there were cases where symptoms only emerged after 24 days, Dr Navaratnasamy said 14 days was the current guideline given by the WHO.

“We have not looked at the evidence yet. We are looking at a normal incubation period. So the average incubation period is only five to six days. It’s not up to 14 days," said Dr Navaratnasamy.

“So when you have (285) people, if no one has shown symptoms, up to the fifteenth day, then we have no reason to worry about that.”