[Reddit Logic] 4 REASONS why SG government is managing the COVID-19 better than Hong Kong government

[TerrexLee]

Singapore and Hong Kong have similar number of cases. Actually Singapore has slightly more confirmed cases. Let's look how the 2 governments manage the crisis.

Surgical masks
HK: Out of surgical masks within one month. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...rie-lam-admits
SG: Distribution of more than 1 million free masks to every household. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...nsion-12413140

Panic buying
HK: Continues for weeks with no sign of ending. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...no-sign-ending
SG: Ends within 2-3 days. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...lves-restocked

Private Clinics
HK: Closed due to shortage of masks. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ng-kong-clinic
SG: One million masks to be distributed to private clinics by government. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...rivate-clinics

Medical professionals
HK. On strike over government's refusal to close China borders. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...eat-to-beijing
SG. Medical professional body is confident and prepared. https://www.straitstimes.com/forum/m...ars-experience

Singaporeans and Hong Kong people are not that different. The difference is our government is doing a much better job than Hong Kong's.

 

[sweetiepie]

KNN there should be a asian handicap given as hk gov needs to deal with protestors KNN at least -3.5 goals KNN sg just narrow won by 4-0 KNN

 

[tanwahtiu]

HK is paying for their crime.... now mask everyone 24/7 or WHV will huant them...

 

[JurongEast]

now no HK citizens want to support China. Previously there were still hard core China supporters.

 

[laksaboy]

Carrie Lam the Chicom-owned bitch didn't (wasn't allowed to) shut down the HK border with mainland China, consequently many Tiong refugees from Guangdong and other provinces swarmed into HK to get medical treatment and masks, because their 厉害国 absolutely fucked it up and they were panicking. World's second largest economy my ass.

Therefore to compare Sinkieland with HK is utterly asinine.

The only blemishes with how Sinkieland dealt with the situation: not stopping flights from Wuhan immediately, and the farcical and irresponsible 'only wear a mask if you're not feeling well' advice.

Depending on the subreddit, Reddit is quite often infested with retards, especially the mods there.

 

[mojito]

Carrie Lam the Chicom-owned bitch didn't (wasn't allowed to) shut down the HK border with mainland China, consequently many Tiong refugees from Guangdong and other provinces swarmed into HK to get medical treatment and masks, because their 厉害国 absolutely fucked it up and they were panicking. World's second largest economy my ass.

Therefore to compare Sinkieland with HK is utterly asinine.

The only blemishes with how Sinkieland dealt with the situation: not stopping flights from Wuhan immediately, and the farcical and irresponsible 'only wear a mask if you're not feeling well' advice.

Depending on the subreddit, Reddit is quite often infested with retards, especially the mods there.

Libtards u mean.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Pap trumping Chicom puppet regime.....that’s hardly something to be proud of LOL

 

[A Singaporean]

Yes. So we'll that we are lumber 1 in no of cases outside China.

 

[Leongsam]

Yes. So we'll that we are lumber 1 in no of cases outside China.

Singapore is number one outside of China because it is super efficient in detecting all cases quickly and taking the necessary measures to isolate them. This is thanks to the excellent management of the situation by the PAP.

Other countries don't even bother to test so if you don't have a system of identifying those infected of course the numbers will appear to be far lower.

 

[glockman]

Singapore is number one outside of China because it is super efficient in detecting all cases quickly and taking the necessary measures to isolate them. This is thanks to the excellent management of the situation by the PAP.

Other countries don't even bother to test so if you don't have a system of identifying those infected of course the numbers will appear to be far lower.

Myanmar and Indonesia. Not a single case reported. I know for a fact that the chinks own many factories in Myanmar.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Myanmar and Indonesia. Not a single case reported. I know for a fact that the chinks own many factories in Myanmar.

Not a single case n business as usual in these countries, no panic buying n other emotional BS. So is this Wuhan virus tat deadly?

 

[glockman]

Not a single case n business as usual in these countries, no panic buying n other emotional BS. So is this Wuhan virus tat deadly?

Knowledge is always better than ignorance. But then again, ignorance is bliss. Regarding this Wuhan virus, there is cause for concern. Especially for people living in close quarters. We know it's highly infectious and a vaccine isn't available yet. When it is available, then it'll be just another bug.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Knowledge is always better than ignorance. But then again, ignorance is bliss. Regarding this Wuhan virus, there is cause for concern. Especially for people living in close quarters. We know it's highly infectious and a vaccine isn't available yet. When it is available, then it'll be just another bug.

Flu vaccine also does not prevent flu. I don't see ppl panicking about a flu pandemic

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Knowledge is always better than ignorance. But then again, ignorance is bliss. Regarding this Wuhan virus, there is cause for concern. Especially for people living in close quarters. We know it's highly infectious and a vaccine isn't available yet. When it is available, then it'll be just another bug.

Close quarters etc also easy to get the flu...n wat the diff between flu n Wuhan virus?

 

[hofmann]

Knowledge is always better than ignorance. But then again, ignorance is bliss. Regarding this Wuhan virus, there is cause for concern. Especially for people living in close quarters. We know it's highly infectious and a vaccine isn't available yet. When it is available, then it'll be just another bug.

seems like mainly male boomers are dying. plus the occasional overworked millennial hospital staff.

if you're not a male boomer, you're good to go!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/
Front the analysis of death cases, it emerged that the demographic profile was mainly male, accounting for 2/3, females accounting for 1/3, and is mainly elderly, more than 80% are elderly over 60 years old, and more than 75% had underlying diseases present such as cardiovascular and cardiovascular diseases, diabetes and, in some cases, tumor.

 

[glockman]

Flu vaccine also does not prevent flu. I don't see ppl panicking about a flu pandemic

Close quarters etc also easy to get the flu...n wat the diff between flu n Wuhan virus?

It's a new virus, lots of unknown and people are naturally fearful of the unknown. For the most part, we don’t yet know how dangerous this virus is. But what is known thus far is, as compared to the flu, it has a longer incubation period allowing it to spread unnoticed. Hence an infected person can spread the virus, while remaining symptom free for long periods. Some people say flu is more dangerous, others say wuhan virus is more dangerous. We really won't know until this thing blows over. But in the mean time, it doesn't hurt to be cautious.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

It's a new virus, lots of unknown and people are naturally fearful of the unknown. For the most part, we don’t yet know how dangerous this virus is. But what is known thus far is, as compared to the flu, it has a longer incubation period allowing it to spread unnoticed. Hence an infected person can spread the virus, while remaining symptom free for long periods. Some people say flu is more dangerous, others say wuhan virus is more dangerous. We really won't know until this thing blows over. But in the mean time, it doesn't hurt to be cautious.

Cautious in one thing. Over reactions like wat is happening now is stupid. N death is part of life. Deal with it

 

[sweetiepie]

Cautious in one thing. Over reactions like wat is happening now is stupid. N death is part of life. Deal with it

KNN in another thread it was already proven that people work hard to die a gracious death eg car accident plane crash etc and are all fearful of death caused by diseases KNN

 

[glockman]

seems like mainly male boomers are dying. plus the occasional overworked millennial hospital staff.

if you're not a male boomer, you're good to go!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/
Front the analysis of death cases, it emerged that the demographic profile was mainly male, accounting for 2/3, females accounting for 1/3, and is mainly elderly, more than 80% are elderly over 60 years old, and more than 75% had underlying diseases present such as cardiovascular and cardiovascular diseases, diabetes and, in some cases, tumor.

Good read, thanks. I have inserted the part I find informative. So, let's not make the mistake of brushing this off as less lethal than the flu.

World Health Organization: too early to make conclusive statements
The World Health Organization (WHO) had mentioned 2% as a mortality rate estimate in a press conference on Wednesday, January 29 [1][2] and again on February 10. However, on January 29 WHO specified that this is a very early and provisional estimate that may change. Surveillance is increasing, within China but also globally, but at the time:

1. We don't know how many were infected ("When you look at how many people have died, you need to look at how many people where infected, and right now we don't know that number. So it is early to put a percentage on that."[1][2]).
2. The only number currently known is how many people have died out of those who have been reported to the WHO.
3. It is therefore very early to make any conclusive statements about what the overall mortality rate will be for the novel coronavirus, according to the World Health Organization [1][2].

Preliminary study providing a tentative 3% estimate for case fatality rate
A preliminary study published on The Lancet on January 24 [3] provides an early estimation of 3% for the overall case fatality rate. Below we show an extract (highlights added for the relevant data and observations):

Of the 41 patients in this cohort, 22 (55%) developed severe dyspnoea and 13 (32%) required admission to an intensive care unit, and six died.
Hence, the case-fatality proportion in this cohort is approximately 14.6%, and the overall case fatality proportion appears to be closer to 3%.
However, both of these estimates should be treated with great caution because not all patients have concluded their illness (ie, recovered or died) and the true number of infections and full disease spectrum are unknown.
Importantly, in emerging viral infection outbreaks the case-fatality ratio is often overestimated in the early stages because case detection is highly biased towards the more severe cases.
As further data on the spectrum of mild or asymptomatic infection becomes available, one case of which was documented by Chan and colleagues, the case-fatality ratio is likely to decrease.
Nevertheless, the 1918 influenza pandemic is estimated to have had a case-fatality ratio of less than 5% but had an enormous impact due to widespread transmission, so there is no room for complacency.

Comparison with other viruses
For comparison, the case fatality rate with seasonal flu in the United Stats is less than 0.1% (1 death per every 1,000 cases).
Mortality rate for SARS was 10%, and for MERS 34%.

Wuhan Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)​	2%*​
SARS​	9.6%​
MERS​	34%​
Swine Flu​	0.02%​
Virus	Death Rate

*estimate

 

[glockman]

Cautious in one thing. Over reactions like wat is happening now is stupid. N death is part of life. Deal with it

Complacency is equally dangerous. You are not in sinkieland, you wouldn't know the atmosphere here.