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Public transport is significantly subsidized? My foot!!

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[h=2]Public transport is significantly subsidized? My foot!![/h]

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The Transport Minister claimed in parliament that public
transport in Singapore had been significantly subsidized and this helped to
ensure fares remained affordable. In summary, he said the government borne the
cost of infrastructural development such as MRT tunnels and bus interchanges.
Transport operators, on the other hand, borne the operational costs of running
the transport systems and such costs were recovered from fares.

He was either an idiot or a liar! Let me tell you, Transport Minister, how a
tall hierarchy of transport costs had been built up for Singaporeans to
bear.

How were the building of tunnels and bus interchanges costed out? To begin
with, was there any component of land cost? Land belonged to the citizens, did
you cost it at market value and then got the Land Authority to transfer it to
the Land Transport Authority? The land’s market value and the cost of building
those tunnels and bus interchanges were then termed “subsidies”. This total
amount was $X (this already had been paid by us to State’s coffer).

To balance the nation’s budget (we all know PAP hates budget deficit or
withdrawal on past reserves), the “outflow” of $X would have to be “top-up” by
either revenue from tax-payers or government fees. Singaporeans as a whole paid
$X.

Next, no one in his sound mind will believe that a PAP Government would let
the transport operators used the tunnels and bus interchanges for free! There
must be a certain annual charges, in whatever name and in whatever form, for
using those public infrastructure. This annual charge amounted to $Y – and it
will be added to the transport operator’s operational cost, $Z. Hence, total
cost of transport operators is $Y + $Z.

Now, the profit component! The fares paid by each rider have to cover both
the operational costs and profits of the transport companies – because both are
listed companies and need profits. If both were nationalized, Singaporeans would
not have to pay for this profit component (and their fares need not include each
operator’s income tax on profit too!!). SMRT made a total profit before tax of
$892 million over its last five financial years (2008 to 2012); i.e. each year
it made an average profit before tax of $178 million. SBS Transit’s operating
profit (before income tax) for its past five financial years (2007 to 2011)
amounted to $273 million; i.e. $55 million per year. Thus, public transport
operators’ profits (before income tax) amounted to about 178 + 55 = $233 million
each year.

So, Transport Minister, what was the tall hierarchy of transport costs that
weighed on our shoulders? All in all, and in whatever form it took, we were made
to bear $X (paid to government to prevent budget deficit), plus annual costs of
$Y + $Z + $233 million (paid to transport companies).

If public transport were nationalized, we need not have to top-up $X
(government need not recover every cent it spent from reserves or revenue), we
need not pay the annual costs of $Y and $233 million. We only need to pay $Z
(which includes cost provisions for future replacement and maintenance).

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Celia Lim
 
Does Celia Lim know how much is public transport in other countries?
 
Then when they want to increase public transport, they will compare it with other countries and claim that ours is cheaper.
 
Does Celia Lim know how much is public transport in other countries?

Does you know I can buy a S$100 monthy transport pass and travel freely in all modes of public transportation within an area that is twice the size of Singapore, in a european country.
 
Does you know I can buy a S$100 monthy transport pass and travel freely in all modes of public transportation within an area that is twice the size of Singapore, in a european country.

Should be "Do you know.....".
 
What tuck yew said it true. Our public transport is indeed heavily subsidized, but what he tell you is that it is subsized with out tax payers money on top of the fare that we are paying.
 
It is true that our public transport is subsidised, subsidised by tax-payer money. As these are all run by private companies, the share-holders' profits are all subsidised by tax-payer money.
 
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Does Celia Lim know how much is public transport in other countries?

shaddup you cheebye, transportation is privatized here while its cost is socialised. Go use your karchng to think about it for a while
 
It is true that our public transport is subsidised, subsidised by tax-payer money. As these are all run by private companies, the share-holders' profits are all subsidised by tax-payer money.

Social services like transport and postal delivery should never have been privatized. Both have seen a huge drop in service standards.
 
PAP claim that Spore is run like a bizness. Which explains why the cost here keeps on increasing because this family bizniss is a monopoly :rolleyes:
 
Social services like transport and postal delivery should never have been privatized. Both have seen a huge drop in service standards.

Agree with you.

No point subsidising and let the listed companies make money
 
The pap is subsidising SBS and SMRT for them to make more money


Hey TracyTan, think you did not complete your sentence.

Let me complete it for you:

The pap is subsidising SBS and SMRT for them to make more money for themselves.
 
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I am surprised that Boss sam did not comment on your missing "full stop" at the end of your sentence.

Hey TracyTan, think you did not complete your sentence.

Let me complete it for you:

The pap is subsidising SBS and SMRT for them to make more money for themselves.

Thanks...

They want SMRT CEO and SBS CEO to make millions a year so that the Ministers can benchmark themselves and also make millions a year.

Look at how much they pay Singtel CEO, DBS CEO... it is all a ploy to pay themselves well eventually
 
Very funny comment publiuc transport subsidy by SG gov.
Either try to con peasant or management of SMRT and SBS is inefficient.
Just look at HK and Taiwan.
 
Yep. Public transport is subsidized. Just as public housing is subsidized.

Handbags are also 'subsidized' during a sale. Wow! 40% off! Lucky me!

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Public transport is indeed & very heavily subsidised! Passengers pay exorbitant fees to cover the infrastructure cost, running cost, fat cat cost & shareholders bonus & dividends cost! All these are subsidies just worded differently!!!!!!!!!
Public transport again heavily subsidised so that all relevant subsidiaries & affiliates can maintain their monopoly!!!!!!!!!
 
Thanks...

They want SMRT CEO and SBS CEO to make millions a year so that the Ministers can benchmark themselves and also make millions a year.

Look at how much they pay Singtel CEO, DBS CEO... it is all a ploy to pay themselves well eventually

Dear Tracy,

Few are smart enough to see through their whole scheme of things. Few realised the whole package is working slowly but surely, choking off and creaming off.

BTW, isn't paying themselves exorbitantly itself a kind of "corruption"?

Try benchmarking their obscene pay with the various political leaders of the 1st world countries.

Most corrupt government did it under table. This one??? Shamelessly and leegally above the table. Really 超级白.
 
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