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PRC- Sporeans treated us like lesser people, but Sporeans are like frogs in a well

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http://sg.news.yahoo.com/former-smrt-bus-driver--why-we-went-on-strike--part-ii--083616951.html

In a recent hour-long phone interview with Yahoo! Singapore, former SMRT bus driver He Jun Ling opens up to JEANETTE TAN and PEACE CHIU to share why and how more than 170 bus drivers ended up going on a two-day strike against their employer on the morning of 26 November 2012. You can read Part One here. In this second part of the series, he shares his views on xenophobia and integration of foreign workers in Singapore.

When former SMRT bus driver He Jun Ling stepped off the bus at his home in Henan for the first time in almost two years, the first people he met and hugged were his wife and five-year-old daughter.

“The first thing my daughter said to me was, ‘What took you so long to come home?’,” He told Yahoo! Singapore in a recent phone interview from Henan.

“I asked her whether she was happy to see me and she said yes, very happy. I explained that the bus was slow, and to that, she said, ‘The bus must have moved at snail’s pace!’”

The 33-year-old had more emotional words for his wife, though, remembering that while he was gone, she had to be breadwinner, mother and father to their daughter all at the same time. “I told her it must have been tough on her — she suffered quite a lot,” he said.

Why work in Singapore?

Back in 2011, as He mulled the decision to spend two years working abroad, away from his wife, daughter, parents, other relatives and friends, he said he had only heard good things about Singapore.

“We had two modes of thinking about why we were inclined to go to Singapore to work: in terms of remuneration, we knew that we would earn more in Singapore,” he explained.

“The other is the language barrier (in Singapore) wouldn’t be as great as it would be elsewhere — after all, 70 per cent of the local population is Chinese, and our English is very poor, so we thought we would be able to integrate here faster. We all thought Singapore was a very good country; a really, really good one.”

He did not have friends or relatives who had Singapore-based work experience, however, and relied on the little he was told by the agents who secured his job with SMRT.

On the first point, He saw it was true enough. He was able to send the bulk of his salary — amounting to more than S$1,000 a month — back to his family, living off a remainder of about $400 for food, phone bills and his share of the broadband bill in the dormitory he shared with other drivers.

On days when he worked the morning shift, He was able to chat with his wife and daughter on QQ, a popular messaging platform used in China, and on other days, they spoke over the phone. These conversations, said He, were what kept him going despite his daily experiences and encounters with Singaporeans at work.

‘It’s like we were lesser people’

On the second point, He found he was considerably off the mark.

“From what I’ve seen, experienced and heard personally, Singaporeans don’t view people from the mainland in a very positive light,” he said. “Some of them look down on us… there is a breakdown in communication between Singaporeans and Chinese people.”

He related incidents where he and several of his ex-colleagues faced harsh criticism on their driving from elderly passengers, some of whom told them to return to China if they couldn't drive properly.

“These incidents gave us the impression that some Singaporeans really didn’t welcome us,” said He.

He feels that Singaporeans have little idea of the struggles faced by foreign workers, noting that many Bangladeshi workers go without food because they earn too little.

“After my time there I ended up feeling that the way Singaporeans looked at and treated us made us feel quite uncomfortable,” he said. “It’s like we were lesser people than them… as if we were second-class citizens.

“Whether you’re from China, Bangladesh or India, Singaporeans treat foreign workers very passively,” he continued. “They feel that problems experienced by foreign workers should be handled by their employers only and are less helpful when it comes to problems we face… this is something I feel isn’t too good.”

He can understand what is driving some of the tension.

“A lot of online comments accuse Chinese nationals of stealing Singaporean rice bowls, and that our coming here aggravates the stress some locals face in searching for jobs here, so from that perspective I do understand where the angst comes from,” he said.

“But the government knows it needs to rely on foreign workers — there are a lot of jobs Singaporeans won’t do, and we are here with the backing of the government to do these jobs. And when you bring in so many foreign workers, of course there will be problems or issues, so you need to think of contingencies to accommodate them and to ensure that (social integrity is maintained),” he noted.

He was also forgiving of the negative comments made online against him and the other 170 bus drivers who went on strike last November.

“I also can understand where they’re coming from,” he said. “After all, Singapore is their country, and they would definitely be unhappy when foreign workers create unrest. But they might not have understood the background and the issues leading up to our action… so I really can understand their reaction, where it was negative.”

Companions concur

When asked, two of He's three companions, who served six weeks in jail with him and travelled home a week earlier, shared similar sentiments on the issue.

"Singaporeans are like frogs in a well," wrote Liu Xiang Ying in an email interview with Yahoo! Singapore.

"They didn't treat me with a friendly attitude, and I was often looked down upon. (In responding to the strike) Those who were more fluent in Chinese were slightly better, while those who spoke English tended only to look at the end-result (the strike) and not the process."

Liu, who worked in Singapore for more than four years, said he would not have come to the Republic had he known about the "severe lack of freedom" and workers' rights.

"However, I don't regret coming to Singapore to work, because I observed and learned a lot there," he continued. "I can only say (in reference to his participation in the strike) that when they discover the truth, they will understand why I had to do this... it's a matter of fighting for our rights and dignity."

Added Wang Xianjie, "Any foreign worker with courage and a sense of uprightness would confront such unfair and unreasonable treatment."

Not all bad
He Jun Ling poses with his lawyer Choo Zheng Xi before he was sentenced to jail. (Photo courtesy of He Jun Lin …

However, He said it was not all bad and there were many Singaporeans who came forward to help him and his three compatriots. Assistance ranged from bailing them out to finding them temporary housing in Kallang for the three months their case wore on in court.

“There were a lot of kind-hearted Singaporeans helping us after this incident occurred — non-governmental organisations, the lawyers who defended us pro bono and many others whose names we don’t even know,” he said. “One of the first things I did when I got home was to text them to let them know I was back safely, and some of them called me too. I’m really grateful to them.”

He also shared that, ultimately, he still harbours a positive view of Singapore.

“I do think the environment there is very good. Even after everything that happened and my return home, I still think (Singapore’s) infrastructure and transport is very good. The roads are orderly, living standards for locals are high, landscaping is beautiful and the streets are generally safe. I still think it is so.”
 

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Re: PRC- Sporeans treated us like lesser people, but Sporeans are like frogs in a wel

“But the government knows it needs to rely on foreign workers — there are a lot of jobs Singaporeans won’t do, and we are here with the backing of the government to do these jobs. And when you bring in so many foreign workers, of course there will be problems or issues, so you need to think of contingencies to accommodate them and to ensure that (social integrity is maintained),” he noted.

This is the lie that the government sells to foreigners ...that we need them. When they arrived, they behave as if sinkapore owes them.
 

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PRC Ah Tiong Bus Driver complain Sinkies dislike them

Ex-SMRT China bus driver on working in S'pore: It's like we were lesser people

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Yahoo! Newsroom - Former SMRT bus driver He Jun Ling appears in a clip from an interview by documentary filmmaker Lynn Lee. (Screengrab from video)

In a recent hour-long phone interview with Yahoo! Singapore, former SMRT bus driver He Jun Ling opens up to JEANETTE TAN and PEACE CHIU to share why and how more than 170 bus drivers ended up going on a two-day strike against their employer on the morning of 26 November 2012. You can read Part One here. In this second part of the series, he shares his views on xenophobia and integration of foreign workers in Singapore.

When former SMRT bus driver He Jun Ling stepped off the bus at his home in Henan for the first time in almost two years, the first people he met and hugged were his wife and five-year-old daughter.

“The first thing my daughter said to me was, ‘What took you so long to come home?’,” He told Yahoo! Singapore in a recent phone interview from Henan.

“I asked her whether she was happy to see me and she said yes, very happy. I explained that the bus was slow, and to that, she said, ‘The bus must have moved at snail’s pace!’”

The 33-year-old had more emotional words for his wife, though, remembering that while he was gone, she had to be breadwinner, mother and father to their daughter all at the same time. “I told her it must have been tough on her — she suffered quite a lot,” he said.

Why work in Singapore?

Back in 2011, as He mulled the decision to spend two years working abroad, away from his wife, daughter, parents, other relatives and friends, he said he had only heard good things about Singapore.

“We had two modes of thinking about why we were inclined to go to Singapore to work: in terms of remuneration, we knew that we would earn more in Singapore,” he explained.

“The other is the language barrier (in Singapore) wouldn’t be as great as it would be elsewhere — after all, 70 per cent of the local population is Chinese, and our English is very poor, so we thought we would be able to integrate here faster. We all thought Singapore was a very good country; a really, really good one.”

He did not have friends or relatives who had Singapore-based work experience, however, and relied on the little he was told by the agents who secured his job with SMRT.

On the first point, He saw it was true enough. He was able to send the bulk of his salary — amounting to more thanS $1,000 a month — back to his family, living off a remainder of about $400 for food, phone bills and his share of the broadband bill in the dormitory he shared with other drivers.

On days when he worked the morning shift, He was able to chat with his wife and daughter on QQ, a popular messaging platform used in China, and on other days, they spoke over the phone. These conversations, said He, were what kept him going despite his daily experiences and encounters with Singaporeans at work.

‘It’s like we were lesser people’

On the second point, He found he was considerably off the mark.

“From what I’ve seen, experienced and heard personally, Singaporeans don’t view people from the mainland in a very positive light,” he said. “Some of them look down on us… there is a breakdown in communication between Singaporeans and Chinese people.”

He related incidents where he and several of his ex-colleagues faced harsh criticism on their driving from elderly passengers, some of whom told them to return to China if they couldn't drive properly.

“These incidents gave us the impression that some Singaporeans really didn’t welcome us,” said He.

He feels that Singaporeans have little idea of the struggles faced by foreign workers, noting that many Bangladeshi workers go without food because they earn too little.

“After my time there I ended up feeling that the way Singaporeans looked at and treated us made us feel quite uncomfortable,” he said. “It’s like we were lesser people than them… as if we were second-class citizens.

“Whether you’re from China, Bangladesh or India, Singaporeans treat foreign workers very passively,” he continued. “They feel that problems experienced by foreign workers should be handled by their employers only and are less helpful when it comes to problems we face… this is something I feel isn’t too good.”

He can understand what is driving some of the tension.

“A lot of online comments accuse Chinese nationals of stealing Singaporean rice bowls, and that our coming here aggravates the stress some locals face in searching for jobs here, so from that perspective I do understand where the angst comes from,” he said.

“But the government knows it needs to rely on foreign workers — there are a lot of jobs Singaporeans won’t do, and we are here with the backing of the government to do these jobs. And when you bring in so many foreign workers, of course there will be problems or issues, so you need to think of contingencies to accommodate them and to ensure that (social integrity is maintained),” he noted.

He was also forgiving of the negative comments made online against him and the other 170 bus drivers who went on strike last November.

“I also can understand where they’re coming from,” he said. “After all, Singapore is their country, and they would definitely be unhappy when foreign workers create unrest. But they might not have understood the background and the issues leading up to our action… so I really can understand their reaction, where it was negative.”

Companions concur

When asked, two of He's three companions, who served six weeks in jail with him and travelled home a week earlier, shared similar sentiments on the issue.

"Singaporeans are like frogs in a well," wrote Liu Xiang Ying in an email interview with Yahoo! Singapore.

"They didn't treat me with a friendly attitude, and I was often looked down upon. (In responding to the strike) Those who were more fluent in Chinese were slightly better, while those who spoke English tended only to look at the end-result (the strike) and not the process."

Liu, who worked in Singapore for more than four years, said he would not have come to the Republic had he known about the "severe lack of freedom" and workers' rights.

"However, I don't regret coming to Singapore to work, because I observed and learned a lot there," he continued. "I can only say (in reference to his participation in the strike) that when they discover the truth, they will understand why I had to do this... it's a matter of fighting for our rights and dignity."

Added Wang Xianjie, "Any foreign worker with courage and a sense of uprightness would confront such unfair and unreasonable treatment."

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He Jun Ling poses with his lawyer Choo Zheng Xi before he was sentenced to jail. (Photo courtesy of He Jun Lin …

However, He said it was not all bad and there were many Singaporeans who came forward to help him and his three compatriots. Assistance ranged from bailing them out to finding them temporary housing in Kallang for the three months their case wore on in court.

“There were a lot of kind-hearted Singaporeans helping us after this incident occurred — non-governmental organisations, the lawyers who defended us pro bono and many others whose names we don’t even know,” he said. “One of the first things I did when I got home was to text them to let them know I was back safely, and some of them called me too. I’m really grateful to them.”

He also shared that, ultimately, he still harbours a positive view of Singapore.

“I do think the environment there is very good. Even after everything that happened and my return home, I still think (Singapore’s) infrastructure and transport is very good. The roads are orderly, living standards for locals are high, landscaping is beautiful and the streets are generally safe. I still think it is so.”
 

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Re: PRC Ah Tiong Bus Driver complain Sinkies dislike them

Why do Sinkies dislike PRC? Could the reason be that they are a bunch of unethical, selfish and obnoxious bunch? Just look at this PRC below. Can smile after killing people.

Accused in Yishun killings sentenced to hang

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The killings of three Chinese nationals in a Yishun flat in September 2008 shocked the nation.

Yesterday, the accused, Chinese national Wang Zhijian, 46, was sentenced to hang for causing the death of Madam Yang Jie, 36.

Yishun triple murder trial: No diminished responsibility, says psychiatrist

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Wang Zhijian, the China national accused of killing his lover, her teenage daughter and their co-tenant in a Yishun flat in 2008, did lose some self-control when he attacked and killed the three women.

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Re: PRC Ah Tiong Bus Driver complain Sinkies dislike them

PRC bus driver must do some survey why Sinkie dislike them but not Malaysia bus driver.
Please compare you(PRC) bus driver with Malaysia !
 

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Re: PRC Ah Tiong Bus Driver complain Sinkies dislike them

lianbeng replies: he is damn right! can balek kampong liao! all of them! :mad:
 

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Re: PRC Ah Tiong Bus Driver complain Sinkies dislike them

Instead of reflecting on why Sinkies dislike them and changing their ways, they expect us to unconditionally like them.
 

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Re: PRC Ah Tiong Bus Driver complain Sinkies dislike them

I pity those ah tiong bus driver about their lives in Singapore but they have to follow Singapore law when they are in Singapore .
 

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Re: PRC Ah Tiong Bus Driver complain Sinkies dislike them

You want Singaporean to like ah tiong then ah tiong should behave in Singapore and learn Singapore culture don't think that because Singaporean Chinese is also Chinese means we shared the same culture .
 

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Re: PRC- Sporeans treated us like lesser people, but Sporeans are like frogs in a wel

Foreigner workers who r here to do the jobs that locals dont want to do is here to enable locals to move up the value chain. Foreign workers are not here to live better than locals. Also 1000 sing is alot in china. Dont c y he should complain. Miss his family. Than go back n work in china. No one ask him to come to singapore to work.

When i work in ang mor land.. told my colleagues really miss family. They told me tat i should go back.

Dont see why we should entertain this sort of ah tiong demand. N the story looks pretty tall anyway.
 

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Re: PRC- Sporeans treated us like lesser people, but Sporeans are like frogs in a wel

Why didn't the article also touch on the bus service's safety record? Punctuality?

By hiring foreign "bus captains", are fee paying passengers short changed?
 

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Re: PRC Ah Tiong Bus Driver complain Sinkies dislike them

Must be some singaporeans who said something to him that caused him to snap.

Yes!!! You are responsible for the blood on his hands.

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Re: PRC- Sporeans treated us like lesser people, but Sporeans are like frogs in a wel

That is just the kind of objective reporting you expect to get from liberals.
 

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Re: PRC- Sporeans treated us like lesser people, but Sporeans are like frogs in a wel

Striking is a basic human right....
Commie Tiongs understands this unlike dumbfuck brainwashed sinkie sheep.
 

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Re: PRC- Sporeans treated us like lesser people, but Sporeans are like frogs in a wel

That is what happens when you work among the low life sinkies..he should work with real human beings.
 

syed putra

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Re: PRC- Sporeans treated us like lesser people, but Sporeans are like frogs in a wel

very weird.
1st wave of chinese immigrant looking down on recent wave.
 

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That is what happens when you work among the low life sinkies..he should work with real human beings.

do you agree with this statement? tony boy?

PRC- Sporeans treated us like lesser people, but Sporeans are like frogs in a well
 

tonychat

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Re: PRC- Sporeans treated us like lesser people, but Sporeans are like frogs in a wel

do you agree with this statement? tony boy?

PRC- Sporeans treated us like lesser people, but Sporeans are like frogs in a well

Agreed. Luckily I am not a sinkie and not part of the description. I always treat china chink with respect.
 
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