-
IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here. The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.
Chitchat Please Guess??? Beheading Executing of Teacher for Teaching Freedom in AMDK Cuntry!
- Thread starter Pinkieslut
- Start date
France: Muslim students cheer burning of French flags in response to Muhammad cartoons
What will France be like when these students grow up? The answer is not difficult or elusive in the slightest degree. But no one wants to face it.
The assassination of Professor Samuel Paty upsets the faculty. After the feeling of revulsion, there is this fear of rubbing shoulders with forbidden subjects: religion, cartoons and freedom of expression.
Gaël J. apologizes, he “shouldn’t”. He shouldn’t use this martial vocabulary. Obviously, a teacher shouldn’t say that, especially not at the start of a career. A professor of history and geography at a college at the Amiens Academy (Somme), this 30-year-old who is retraining apologizes. One, two, three times. Then he blurted out these offensive words: “The death of 47-year-old colleague Samuel Paty is a loss on the front lines, at the front. Suddenly, we understand that we are doing a dangerous job. The day before yesterday, I didn’t think about it, and today it jumps out at me: we are potential targets.”
Deep down, he knew it without really formulating it. Simply, this drama brings him abruptly back to his mission, to his daily life, and to these sometimes tricky paths, often polluted by excesses. The most mined land? The hours of moral and civic education for which history and geography teachers are responsible, the very ones which earned Samuel Paty a death sentence.
A student: “If we go beyond the limits, there will be attacks”
Among the themes to be addressed by teachers with fourth-year classes: freedom of expression. He says: “Naively, last year, for my very first class on this subject, I decided to put my foot in the dish and broach the subject of the Muhammad cartoons. Unfortunately, it didn’t quite turn out the way I imagined.” He had hoped to see the students debate, discuss, exchange, be open to other opinions, “think of freedoms in the plural”. Then he fell from a great height. “Whatever the profile of the students, there was an immediate consensus to say that we cannot touch religions. It hit me. From there, we tell ourselves that there is work to do…”
The teacher then decides to form different small groups which, at the end of this four-hour session, will have to offer an oral presentation on a subject of their choice. One of them chooses the attacks of 2015. “They went there because it marked them, they were very young teenagers at the time of the events. ”
When they come to the board, the teacher does not know the content of the presentation. He simply knows that the discussions were rich and the work rather studious. A student speaks, around the room the silence is complete: “For several years, freedom of expression has been threatened because some journalists lack respect for religions and do not take into account the laws… If we go beyond the limits, there will be attacks.” In the room, everyone nods. In the middle of the room, the professor is annoyed. “We had just completed a large reminder of what the law allowed,” he swears. For them, the law is something abstract. “Their views are not based on texts, but on their personal distinction between good and evil.”
“Faced with a video of French flags being burnt in Pakistan, most of the students applauded.”
Jordi Sutra, teacher of the same subject in a college in Val-de-Marne which he describes as “sensitive”, also gives a particularly terrifying account of these courses where some students go so far as to “defend terrorists”, sometimes even starting in the sixth grade. Since beginning the job, he has used Muhammad cartoons as a medium to illustrate the issue of press freedom. “Over the years, I’ve seen the situation deteriorate,” he says, to the point that he heard students promise him possible “problems” to come if he persisted in brandishing certain drawings. “There are sometimes stimulating debates, but the deconstruction of representations is increasingly difficult to carry out.”
Jean-Baptiste Jorda also makes this observation. A French teacher in a vocational high school in the Seine-Saint-Denis department, he is required to build sequences around information. He is free to choose the object of study of his choice. This year, he offered his second year students to look at satirical newspapers and their editorial freedom. To prevent the sessions from getting out of hand, the teacher chose not to show the cartoons, but rather to describe them in words. Including the famous one from Charlie Hebdo showing Muhammad in tears, annoyed at being “loved by idiots”. “They exploded,” he recalls. “They immediately insulted the newspaper; some even explained that they wanted blasphemy to be prohibited by law … And when I tried to argue with them, they tried to make me say certain things to trick me. I was no longer in control of anything.” To bring them to their senses and start another discussion, Professor Jorda showed a video of French flags being burned in Pakistan in September 2020 in reaction to the republication of the cartoons by the weekly, to show them “where intolerance can lead”. “I thought I would make them think, but most of the students stood up and clapped.” Stupor.
“To them Charlie is the far right”
After this session, the professor wondered for a long time about the usefulness of his approach without really finding any answers. Talking about freedom of expression to confident and sometimes threatening students, is it “a waste of time” in addition to presenting a “danger” to yourself? “After what happened in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine, I didn’t sleep all night,” he explains. “It aroused some concerns.”
Either way, he still can’t explain this closed dialogue. It just identifies a few symptoms. “Their big argument is the alleged double standard they present when comparing incomparable things,” he explains. For example, they do not understand that the criticism of the prophet of Muslims can be authorized when doubting the Holocaust is not… For many, Charlie is the symbol of what they see as a persecution of Muslims and that they call it “Islamophobia”. He explains: “They have a very confused political vision. To them Charlie is the far right. So, to fight against them, all means are legitimate. Insults are like violence. To disagree with them on this issue is to side with the ‘racists'”….
What will France be like when these students grow up? The answer is not difficult or elusive in the slightest degree. But no one wants to face it.
The assassination of Professor Samuel Paty upsets the faculty. After the feeling of revulsion, there is this fear of rubbing shoulders with forbidden subjects: religion, cartoons and freedom of expression.
Gaël J. apologizes, he “shouldn’t”. He shouldn’t use this martial vocabulary. Obviously, a teacher shouldn’t say that, especially not at the start of a career. A professor of history and geography at a college at the Amiens Academy (Somme), this 30-year-old who is retraining apologizes. One, two, three times. Then he blurted out these offensive words: “The death of 47-year-old colleague Samuel Paty is a loss on the front lines, at the front. Suddenly, we understand that we are doing a dangerous job. The day before yesterday, I didn’t think about it, and today it jumps out at me: we are potential targets.”
Deep down, he knew it without really formulating it. Simply, this drama brings him abruptly back to his mission, to his daily life, and to these sometimes tricky paths, often polluted by excesses. The most mined land? The hours of moral and civic education for which history and geography teachers are responsible, the very ones which earned Samuel Paty a death sentence.
A student: “If we go beyond the limits, there will be attacks”
Among the themes to be addressed by teachers with fourth-year classes: freedom of expression. He says: “Naively, last year, for my very first class on this subject, I decided to put my foot in the dish and broach the subject of the Muhammad cartoons. Unfortunately, it didn’t quite turn out the way I imagined.” He had hoped to see the students debate, discuss, exchange, be open to other opinions, “think of freedoms in the plural”. Then he fell from a great height. “Whatever the profile of the students, there was an immediate consensus to say that we cannot touch religions. It hit me. From there, we tell ourselves that there is work to do…”
The teacher then decides to form different small groups which, at the end of this four-hour session, will have to offer an oral presentation on a subject of their choice. One of them chooses the attacks of 2015. “They went there because it marked them, they were very young teenagers at the time of the events. ”
When they come to the board, the teacher does not know the content of the presentation. He simply knows that the discussions were rich and the work rather studious. A student speaks, around the room the silence is complete: “For several years, freedom of expression has been threatened because some journalists lack respect for religions and do not take into account the laws… If we go beyond the limits, there will be attacks.” In the room, everyone nods. In the middle of the room, the professor is annoyed. “We had just completed a large reminder of what the law allowed,” he swears. For them, the law is something abstract. “Their views are not based on texts, but on their personal distinction between good and evil.”
“Faced with a video of French flags being burnt in Pakistan, most of the students applauded.”
Jordi Sutra, teacher of the same subject in a college in Val-de-Marne which he describes as “sensitive”, also gives a particularly terrifying account of these courses where some students go so far as to “defend terrorists”, sometimes even starting in the sixth grade. Since beginning the job, he has used Muhammad cartoons as a medium to illustrate the issue of press freedom. “Over the years, I’ve seen the situation deteriorate,” he says, to the point that he heard students promise him possible “problems” to come if he persisted in brandishing certain drawings. “There are sometimes stimulating debates, but the deconstruction of representations is increasingly difficult to carry out.”
Jean-Baptiste Jorda also makes this observation. A French teacher in a vocational high school in the Seine-Saint-Denis department, he is required to build sequences around information. He is free to choose the object of study of his choice. This year, he offered his second year students to look at satirical newspapers and their editorial freedom. To prevent the sessions from getting out of hand, the teacher chose not to show the cartoons, but rather to describe them in words. Including the famous one from Charlie Hebdo showing Muhammad in tears, annoyed at being “loved by idiots”. “They exploded,” he recalls. “They immediately insulted the newspaper; some even explained that they wanted blasphemy to be prohibited by law … And when I tried to argue with them, they tried to make me say certain things to trick me. I was no longer in control of anything.” To bring them to their senses and start another discussion, Professor Jorda showed a video of French flags being burned in Pakistan in September 2020 in reaction to the republication of the cartoons by the weekly, to show them “where intolerance can lead”. “I thought I would make them think, but most of the students stood up and clapped.” Stupor.
“To them Charlie is the far right”
After this session, the professor wondered for a long time about the usefulness of his approach without really finding any answers. Talking about freedom of expression to confident and sometimes threatening students, is it “a waste of time” in addition to presenting a “danger” to yourself? “After what happened in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine, I didn’t sleep all night,” he explains. “It aroused some concerns.”
Either way, he still can’t explain this closed dialogue. It just identifies a few symptoms. “Their big argument is the alleged double standard they present when comparing incomparable things,” he explains. For example, they do not understand that the criticism of the prophet of Muslims can be authorized when doubting the Holocaust is not… For many, Charlie is the symbol of what they see as a persecution of Muslims and that they call it “Islamophobia”. He explains: “They have a very confused political vision. To them Charlie is the far right. So, to fight against them, all means are legitimate. Insults are like violence. To disagree with them on this issue is to side with the ‘racists'”….
France itself - the country - needs to be burnt down.
It's a medium sized country.
Should not think too highly of itself.
Muslims only need some of these big bad boys unleashed on Paris followed by Montpellier and a few other 2nd tier Frog Eaters' towns to send them back to their origin.
We also need genuine hardliners - those who would not blink one moment to nuke Yankees - to come to power in Iran.
With sanctions removed, Iran can also sell plenty of ballistic missiles to Indonesia and Malaysia, Algeria, Syria, Iraq, Lebanese Hizbollah, Yemen and the likes.
Bavar 373 SAM systems are quite sth. Nothing in Frog eaters' arsenal can match it or surpass it.
With sanctions removed, Iran can also sell plenty of ballistic missiles to Indonesia and Malaysia, Algeria, Syria, Iraq, Lebanese Hizbollah, Yemen and the likes.
Bavar 373 SAM systems are quite sth. Nothing in Frog eaters' arsenal can match it or surpass it.
Iran’s nuclear facilities brought to kneel by Stutxnet Worm
Stuxnet reportedly destroyed numerous centrifuges in Iran’s Natanz uranium enrichment facility by causing them to burn themselves out. Over time, other groups modified the virus to target facilities including water treatment plants, power plants, and gas lines.
Stuxnet was a multi-part worm that traveled on USB sticks and spread through Microsoft Windows computers. The virus searched each infected PC for signs of Siemens Step 7 software, which industrial computers serving as PLCs use for automating and monitoring electro-mechanical equipment. After finding a PLC computer, the malware attack updated its code over the internet and began sending damage-inducing instructions to the electro-mechanical equipment the PC controlled. At the same time, the virus sent false feedback to the main controller. Anyone monitoring the equipment would have had no indication of a problem until the equipment began to self-destruct.
those most probably for show
they yankee zionists etc never knew about bavar 373 until Iran displayed it
those jewish morons were laughing about Iran building a SAM/AD system superior to S-300
now they got gobsmacked.
there are secret facilities
and super-secret facilities
and then there are these public facilities.
nobody's gonna build nukes in these public facilities
That means Mohd is higher rank than Jesus in the Quran?
doesn't sound or look east turkestan at all
emperors Xiaowu and Qianfei of the Liu Song dynasty, in the 5th century. Although Emperor Xiaowu was considered a competent ruler during the decade of his reign, he engaged in incest not only with his first cousins, but more repulsively, with his own mother Empress Dowager Lu. After he died in 464, his son Emperor Qianfei followed his father’s incestuous ways by bedding his aunt and his elder sister. Lacking his father’s ability, however, the 17-year-old Qianfei was murdered after less than two years on the throne.
yup as expected
erdogan swallowed the insult quietly, he's firmly in NATO camp recognizes Zionists avowedly secular yet a leader of a weakling country. without nukes and ICBMs your country will always be weaklings, like it or not.
Iran under TURKIC donkey supreme leader - as expected - will choose to remain in power and enrich themselves at the expense of your average Iranian citizen. And enrich their cronies. they don't want to lose their wealth or lucre. "too tough" for supposed revolutionary regime. that too, an "Islamic" revolutionary regime
and Pakis, officially and unofficially, including a certain KAFIR BASTARD and traitor called Farooqi as webmaster of a certain forum who would allow all sorts of kafir to spew venom at Islam and Muslims, but prevent me from joining coz I say I'd be "Fucking westerners' mothers" as part of my job
tells you and all Muslims worldwide that
1. Pakis are fucking Kafir bastards that would seek approval of kafir westerners before adhering to the tenets of Islam, if necessary. they worship Kafir westerners instead of Allah SWT and thus they pay greater importance to the words and orders of their Kafir western masters
2. Any Muslim who still remains a member of that Paki forum with a webmaster supposedly called Farooqi, should no longer do so coz this Paki KAFIR RAT is an intel agent of the Jewish Zionist Yankee nexus and his only agenda is furthering the kufr agenda. He also lives in the USA, out of all 200+ countries and territories out there in the world.
Turns out my predictions were 100% correct.
Not a single error, not a single mistake. Correct to a tee.
Don't post garbage here with events thousands of years ago that no one will believed.
Tunisia: Muslim MP glorifies the beheading of a French teacher
It also should be noted that many, many other Muslims in Tunisia and all over the world including moderate muslim "whoami" agree with him and beheading of infidel.
“Tunisian MP probed for allegedly glorifying beheading of French teacher,”
Tunisia has launched an investigation against an MP for allegedly glorifying the murder of a teacher in Paris who was decapitated in a brutal Islamist terror attack this week.
The Public Prosecutors Office in Tunis said the independent MP Rached Khiari’s remarks on social media and his position in parliament would be examined, the state news agency Tap reported on Saturday.
The 47-year-old history teacher Samuel Paty was beheaded on Friday afternoon in a town northwest of the French capital after recently holding a class on freedom of speech in which he showed caricatures of the Muslim Prophet Muhammad.
Islamic tradition forbids any images depicting the religion’s prophets.
Chiari took to Facebook in defense of the beheading, saying: “To insult the messenger of God” is “the greatest crime,” and whoever committed it had to “bear its consequences.”
Defiant after probe announced
In another post following the announcement of the investigation, Chiari he said could renounce his immunity to prosecution and his position in parliament, “but I will not renounce my conviction for the crime.”
The prophet is “more important and greater than fame, parliament, politics and the whole world,” he added….
It also should be noted that many, many other Muslims in Tunisia and all over the world including moderate muslim "whoami" agree with him and beheading of infidel.
“Tunisian MP probed for allegedly glorifying beheading of French teacher,”
Tunisia has launched an investigation against an MP for allegedly glorifying the murder of a teacher in Paris who was decapitated in a brutal Islamist terror attack this week.
The Public Prosecutors Office in Tunis said the independent MP Rached Khiari’s remarks on social media and his position in parliament would be examined, the state news agency Tap reported on Saturday.
The 47-year-old history teacher Samuel Paty was beheaded on Friday afternoon in a town northwest of the French capital after recently holding a class on freedom of speech in which he showed caricatures of the Muslim Prophet Muhammad.
Islamic tradition forbids any images depicting the religion’s prophets.
Chiari took to Facebook in defense of the beheading, saying: “To insult the messenger of God” is “the greatest crime,” and whoever committed it had to “bear its consequences.”
Defiant after probe announced
In another post following the announcement of the investigation, Chiari he said could renounce his immunity to prosecution and his position in parliament, “but I will not renounce my conviction for the crime.”
The prophet is “more important and greater than fame, parliament, politics and the whole world,” he added….
Serve the french government right for importing so many moslems. It's a slippery slope to a failed state, just like jiuhu and indon.
What about them? It's not my concerned anyway.How about the Torah? Bible?
My concerned is only about the garbage u posted!
Wat garbage?
France: Cops interrogated teacher who showed Muhammad cartoon four days before he was beheaded
Why didn’t the French police interrogate Brahim Chnina, the father of a girl at Paty’s school, who circulated a video inciting Muslims to murder Paty? Why didn’t police interrogate Abdelhakim Sefrioui, who aided Chnina? Why, in a country that is supposedly dedicated to the freedom of speech, did the police call in Paty, whose only offense was showing a class material that violated Sharia blasphemy law? The interrogation of Paty is an indication of how much France, and the West, has degenerated and come to accept the de facto imposition of Sharia speech restrictions. The Legion d’Honneur awarded to the dead teacher is another symbol of France’s weakness and failure: why not award it instead to the next teacher who dares to try to teach his students about the importance of the freedom of speech?
“Police interrogated French teacher over Mohammed cartoons four days before his murder following complaint – as it emerges bribed pupils waited two hours with killer to point out victim,” by Ross Ibbetson and Tim Stickings, Mailonline, October 21, 2020 (thanks to the Geller Report):
Police interrogated French schoolteacher Samuel Paty over Mohammed cartoons just four days before his murder after complaints were made by the father of a schoolgirl.
Paty was beheaded by 18-year-old Chechen Aboulakh Anzorov who lay in wait for two hours outside the Bois-d’Aulne school with two boys who identified the teacher in exchange for £300.
The 47-year-old history and geography teacher will today be awarded France’s highest order of merit, the Legion d’Honneur, in recognition of his efforts in trying to explain the importance of freedom of speech.
The allegation put to Paty by police ten days ago – that he showed his class images of Charlie Hebdo cartoons – is the very action for which he will be honoured at a national ceremony at the Sorbonne this evening….
Just days before his murder it was Paty who was questioned at a police station, telling officers: ‘I did not commit any offence.’
The teacher was summoned after a schoolgirl’s father complained that his showing cartoons of Mohammed amounted to ‘dissemination of pornographic images.’
But Paty told officers that the child was absent from his class on October 6 and that her story was founded on ‘student rumours’ with the intention to ‘damage my image, the college and the institution.’
Paty’s colleagues told France Info that the he had been deeply upset by an online video branding him a ‘thug’ which was allegedly circulated by the girl’s outraged father.
Paty told police: ‘I suggested that my students look away for a few seconds if they thought they were shocked for one reason or another.
‘At no time did I tell the students: “Muslims, you can go out because you are going to be shocked.” And I did not ask the students who were of the Muslim faith. My goal when I asked them to look away was that they didn’t feel offended.’
Following the interview, Paty made a complaint of defamation against the father of the girl who had accused him.
The school’s principal had supported Paty at his police interview….
Why didn’t the French police interrogate Brahim Chnina, the father of a girl at Paty’s school, who circulated a video inciting Muslims to murder Paty? Why didn’t police interrogate Abdelhakim Sefrioui, who aided Chnina? Why, in a country that is supposedly dedicated to the freedom of speech, did the police call in Paty, whose only offense was showing a class material that violated Sharia blasphemy law? The interrogation of Paty is an indication of how much France, and the West, has degenerated and come to accept the de facto imposition of Sharia speech restrictions. The Legion d’Honneur awarded to the dead teacher is another symbol of France’s weakness and failure: why not award it instead to the next teacher who dares to try to teach his students about the importance of the freedom of speech?
“Police interrogated French teacher over Mohammed cartoons four days before his murder following complaint – as it emerges bribed pupils waited two hours with killer to point out victim,” by Ross Ibbetson and Tim Stickings, Mailonline, October 21, 2020 (thanks to the Geller Report):
Police interrogated French schoolteacher Samuel Paty over Mohammed cartoons just four days before his murder after complaints were made by the father of a schoolgirl.
Paty was beheaded by 18-year-old Chechen Aboulakh Anzorov who lay in wait for two hours outside the Bois-d’Aulne school with two boys who identified the teacher in exchange for £300.
The 47-year-old history and geography teacher will today be awarded France’s highest order of merit, the Legion d’Honneur, in recognition of his efforts in trying to explain the importance of freedom of speech.
The allegation put to Paty by police ten days ago – that he showed his class images of Charlie Hebdo cartoons – is the very action for which he will be honoured at a national ceremony at the Sorbonne this evening….
Just days before his murder it was Paty who was questioned at a police station, telling officers: ‘I did not commit any offence.’
The teacher was summoned after a schoolgirl’s father complained that his showing cartoons of Mohammed amounted to ‘dissemination of pornographic images.’
But Paty told officers that the child was absent from his class on October 6 and that her story was founded on ‘student rumours’ with the intention to ‘damage my image, the college and the institution.’
Paty’s colleagues told France Info that the he had been deeply upset by an online video branding him a ‘thug’ which was allegedly circulated by the girl’s outraged father.
Paty told police: ‘I suggested that my students look away for a few seconds if they thought they were shocked for one reason or another.
‘At no time did I tell the students: “Muslims, you can go out because you are going to be shocked.” And I did not ask the students who were of the Muslim faith. My goal when I asked them to look away was that they didn’t feel offended.’
Following the interview, Paty made a complaint of defamation against the father of the girl who had accused him.
The school’s principal had supported Paty at his police interview….
Ha ha, sorry, not referring to u. Referring to mudhatter.
Similar threads
