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Perhaps Ivermectin actually works!

Leongsam

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Sigh. Very funny.

I'm actually quite serious. Go there and help the poor. It will be good for the soul. I'm not saying do volunteer work but there has to some organisation or state that will pay you a decent salary.
 

nayr69sg

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I'm actually quite serious. Go there and help the poor. It will be good for the soul. I'm not saying do volunteer work but there has to some organisation or state that will pay you a decent salary.
Seriously Sam, with your analysis skills and knowledge. You can easily pass of as a doctor in India.

Maybe you go there treat covid patients with Ivermectin then publish results?
 

eatshitndie

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Seriously Sam, with your analysis skills and knowledge. You can easily pass of as a doctor in India.

Maybe you go there treat covid patients with Ivermectin then publish results?
over there you may discover kama sutra, samsara, tantric sex, and nirvana. can eat don’t waste.
 

nirvarq

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I've said this b4 flu is not the disease it's the cure. It is the way the natural way to purge toxins from our body. The temperature rises (fever) it kills bacterial and gems hence the running nose flu symptoms purging the toxins from our body and then our natural immunity kicks in. Walah....... we're new and shinning again.

That's why we call it 'seasonal flu' as we evolve as the earth energy fields changes flu is part of the adjustment towards natural immunity too.

Healing is innate to all living organism it's a default thingy it's in the entire system of existence. All we need to do to effect healing is to stop the cause that's is like : direct damage to the body like heaty, unhealthy foods, too much heat or cold, fire, poison or whatever the cause even emotional causes like fear when prolonged also causes damage to our psychological system.... Don't forget to breath healthily too. Exercise and sweat out and get some natural vitamin D (Sunlight) too.

Nuff said.

I know not much people will believe and take this seriously lol........... But that's how we actually build a robust natural immunity system that'll ensure the survival of the civilization or humanity. lol........... :P <3
 

Leongsam

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Seriously Sam, with your analysis skills and knowledge. You can easily pass of as a doctor in India.

Maybe you go there treat covid patients with Ivermectin then publish results?

I'm don't like interacting with people in a professional role. I'm fine meeting socially though.

As for Ivermectin the health authorities would get far better cooperation and respect if they took the approach that anyone who wanted to take ivermectin was free to do so provided they got it from their doctor and not from a vet.

It's safety profile at the proper human dosages is on par or better with many other approved drugs.

Constantly advising against it does nothing but add fuel to the conspiracy theorists. It also drives people to seek the drug from unapproved sources which just adds to the danger.
 

nayr69sg

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I'm don't like interacting with people in a professional role. I'm fine meeting socially though.

As for Ivermectin the health authorities would get far better cooperation and respect if they took the approach that anyone who wanted to take ivermectin was free to do so provided they got it from their doctor and not from a vet.

It's safety profile at the proper human dosages is on par or better with many other approved drugs.

Constantly advising against it does nothing but add fuel to the conspiracy theorists. It also drives people to seek the drug from unapproved sources which just adds to the danger.
Me too. Interacting with people in a professional role means they want something from me, and I am obliged to help them but at the same time constrained by regulations.

Patient autonomy right? Non maleficence right? So if patient wants something.....and it is not totally unheard of like say me prescribing Jublia for Erectile Dysfuction, and it wont cause harm......why not?

I know many people keep saying oh Ivermectin dose has to be sooo high it will cause problems (says what study? and what dose is it anyway?)

What if drs tried prescribing Ivermectin at the safe doses used for worm infections? How much harm will it cause? Is no benefit a harm if there is no known treatment for something anyway? What is the harm in trying a treatment which has some possible theories could help but does not help anyway but also does not cause harm? Mind you we are talking about diseases that have no known successful treatment as yet. Not things that have ready evidence based other treatments that work well.

Instead it is all based on big shot Drs and figures giving their more expert opinion. Often these complaint cases arise because Dr A is giving treatment X and Dr B disagrees with using treatment X. Patient says I tend to prefer Dr A and treatment X. Gives Dr B headache and difficult patient. Dr B is more senior and is a specialist and feels he or she "knows better" than Dr A. Dr B complains to college. College sides with the more senior and specialist Dr B of course. Dr A is asked to back off and apologize. Dr A accedes since he still needs to work anyway.

Anyway a good example of this politicking you can read about Dr Erwin Kay

https://www.healthprofessionals.gov...-kay-aih-boon-erwin-(210902)---anonymised.pdf

https://www.healthprofessionals.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider2/published-grounds-of-decision/year-2021/03-smc-announcement-on-ioc's-orders-for-dr-kay-aih-boon-erwin_final-230721.pdf

https://www.cadth.ca/media/pdf/htis/L 0170 - Fluconazole for Autism final.pdf

CONCLUSIONS AND IMPLICATIONS FOR DECISION OR POLICY MAKING: The efficacy of antifungal agents for the treatment of autism has not been demonstrated in published clinical trials or observational studies. A report published by the Australian Department of Health and Aging (2006)2 and a recent review5 of complimentary and alternative medicine for children with autism spectrum disorders both noted that the use of treatments for yeast overgrowth (e.g., probiotics, antifungals, and yeast-free diets) remain a popular option despite the paucity of clinical evidence. Neither publication provided evidence such as utilization data to support the popularity of these strategies. Considering the results of the parental medication and diet survey,8 the statement regarding the popularity of this treatment strategy may not be applicable to the use of anti-fungal agents, as fewer than 2% of parents reported the use of any gastrointestinal medications. Due to the lack of relevant published literature, no conclusions can be drawn on the clinical benefits and harms of antifungal agents or pharmacological suspensions free of inactive ingredients in the treatment of children with autism
 

nayr69sg

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I'm actually quite serious. Go there and help the poor. It will be good for the soul. I'm not saying do volunteer work but there has to some organisation or state that will pay you a decent salary.
Going to India will not change anything as far as medicine is concerned.

It is the same top down approach as it is all over the world. Some big shot or senior Dr decides ALL doctors should do things his or her way or the way of his or her senior drs and all must follow.

Nothing different. All the same.

You were mistaken that the system is different. It is not.

The difference was the Top Senior People in the Health Ministry decided to include ivermectin and doxycyline and what have you.

If any dr goes to India now they will also face disciplinary action for going against the revised Health Ministry guidelines on using Ivermectin.
 

porcaputtana

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I'm don't like interacting with people in a professional role. I'm fine meeting socially though.

As for Ivermectin the health authorities would get far better cooperation and respect if they took the approach that anyone who wanted to take ivermectin was free to do so provided they got it from their doctor and not from a vet.

It's safety profile at the proper human dosages is on par or better with many other approved drugs.

Constantly advising against it does nothing but add fuel to the conspiracy theorists. It also drives people to seek the drug from unapproved sources which just adds to the danger.
Safety profile at proper human dosage gets rid of parasites and worms. That’s its intended and approved purpose.

Why don’t you let your mom take it at your anti SARS-Covid 2 dose and let me know the outcome.
 

Leongsam

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Safety profile at proper human dosage gets rid of parasites and worms. That’s its intended and approved purpose.

Why don’t you let your mom take it at your anti SARS-Covid 2 dose and let me know the outcome.

There are many drugs that prescribed for off label use on a regular basis.
 

nayr69sg

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There are many drugs that prescribed for off label use on a regular basis.
Yes.

But it still has to be "accepted off label use".

In other words no difference lah.

You cant like go crazy and start taking medications and say use them for this and that condition with no approval from the senior drs.

It has to be approved off label use! Which is an oxymoron!
 
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