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PE - Hijacked !!

Fucking cheebye! This means Tan Kin Lian's actual intention is to be just a kowtowing figurehead President collecting Millions of Dollars remuneration according to the Gospel of Goh Meng Seng!

TKL is the FIRST ONE who brought up the Slogan, Voice of the People and knowing him, HE WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE A QUIET President. However, having said that, HE WILL ALSO NOT BE A PRESIDENT WITH THE POLITICAL AGENDA OF CRIPPLING THE PAP GOVERNMENT.

Goh Meng Seng
 
1. increase in transport fares
2. currygate
3. PA HDB fiasco
4. an NDP rally speech that sort of say, Business as usual..

The events of late has also created a perfect storm of anti-estab sentiments..

Instead of choosing the best man for the role, it is becoming a PAP vs anti-PAP contest.

With TCB mysteriously softening his stance and clueless TKL is already a write-off, TJS is now the official voice of the people.

Two important factors which might see TJS step into the Istana:
1) The 40% opposition voters
2) Support from the Hainanese community. It is a little known fact to outsiders that Hainanese people are always fiercely proud of their prodigal sons. Educated young men who make good are highly respected as role models for the community. Any Hainanese uncle at the coffeeshop can list the good sons of the last generation: Lim Chong Yah, Ngiam Dong How, Mah BT ...Few will give up the chance of having a Hainanese as president.




 
Really scro, the PAP has been shooting itself in the foot. Imagine so soon after the GE when wounds were still raw, the PAP starts irritating the people again with:

1. increase in transport fares
2. currygate
3. PA HDB fiasco
4. an NDP rally speech that sort of say, Business as usual..

Surely any idiot will be more careful with his strategies and tactics. really, the PAP machinery is unwinding...like the hydra with its many heads..it also goes in diff directions..

With Old Man as good as gone, the centre is now a vacuum. No one has the gravitas to lead the country now.

Other than increasing the transportation fares, the other items are not really shooting themselves in the foot. It has been going on for a long time. This is how bad the abuse is. Its so entrenced that even the PAP do not realise its an abuse until it hits the internet. Case in point is the whole PA function thing. The PA has been blacklisting the oppo leaders from all these functions for years, but now that it has been pointed out, and it makes them look non partisan, they have backtracked. A for curry gate, I understand that incident happened years ago.
 
The events of late has also created a perfect storm of anti-estab sentiments..

Instead of choosing the best man for the role, it is becoming a PAP vs anti-PAP contest.

With TCB mysteriously softening his stance and clueless TKL is already a write-off, TJS is now the official voice of the people.

Two important factors which might see TJS step into the Istana:
1) The 40% opposition voters
2) Support from the Hainanese community. It is a little known fact to outsiders that Hainanese people are always fiercely proud of their prodigal sons. Educated young men who make good are highly respected as role models for the community. Any Hainanese uncle at the coffeeshop can list the good sons of the last generation: Lim Chong Yah, Ngiam Dong How, Mah BT ...Few will give up the chance of having a Hainanese as president.





Nothing mysterious about TCB softening his stance. I already knew he was an establishment stooge. I have crossed swords with Scroobal on this. Scroobal thinks he is the best thing since sliced bread. I maintained in my posts that u cannot be an MP for 26 years, be in the PAP CEC, etc. without kissing some serious PAP ass. I think originally, the PAP had thought that there will be no other candidates besides TT. I think they were surprised when the PEC also approved TKL and TSJ. In their hopes, they want it to be a TCB and a TT only EP election. That way, TT would win out easily, and TCB would provide the "credible" opposition candidate and the PAP can spin it as a truly independent election. I agree with u that at this point, TSJ is ahead in the minds of the voters.
 
Goh Meng Seng

Like many people, I don't like the way things are happening now. I have a lot of respect for TJS and I think he can serve the country better as an MP.

However, it is plain to see you have bet on the wrong horse. TLK would have won it is was just he versus Nathan.. But alas it is not to be.
 
TKL is the FIRST ONE who brought up the Slogan, Voice of the People and knowing him, HE WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE A QUIET President. However, having said that, HE WILL ALSO NOT BE A PRESIDENT WITH THE POLITICAL AGENDA OF CRIPPLING THE PAP GOVERNMENT.

Goh Meng Seng

If he does not havethe agenda to cripple the PAP govt., THAN WHAT FUCKING GOOD IS HE? He is going to it idly by and let the PAP run up the cost of housing, cost of living, more FT, etc. Siao.
 

2) Support from the Hainanese community. It is a little known fact to outsiders that Hainanese people are always fiercely proud of their prodigal sons. Educated young men who make good are highly respected as role models for the community. Any Hainanese uncle at the coffeeshop can list the good sons of the last generation: Lim Chong Yah, Ngiam Dong How, Mah BT ...Few will give up the chance of having a Hainanese as president.

Dear Rogue,

I have addressed about Hainanese Clan "emotional baggage". As a Hainanese myself, I decided to support TKL instead. I am first and foremost, Singaporean and I have to take the Nation's interests into consideration first before I think about whether the candidate is my clansman or not.

If I do otherwise, just support whoever is my clansman, then I am no better than PAP people who would get their clansman's endorsement.

Goh Meng Seng
 
If he does not havethe agenda to cripple the PAP govt., THAN WHAT FUCKING GOOD IS HE? He is going to it idly by and let the PAP run up the cost of housing, cost of living, more FT, etc. Siao.

Put it in simple terms, if TKL was willing to stand up for those Minibond victims while other politicians and people just sit idling by, do you seriously think that he will be more quiet than opposition politicians?

Goh Meng Seng
 
GMS you disappoint me sorely. TJS is not about radical change. Have you even read or listened to what he has said. Tell me one word in TJS that screams "radical".

Each candidate is gravitating towards the centre because polling day is near. I understand where you and TKL are coming from. But what you said about TJS is needless and unhelpful. I think you should just admit that this is a good opportunity to exit NSP and get it over with and out of your system.

I understand the desire for "CHANGE" but I believe the Presidential Election should not be the platform to install radical change to the whole political system.

Singaporeans want Change but not the potential political instability which might come with it. This is the main reason why I would support TKL instead of TJS.

Goh Meng Seng
 
You are clutching at straws with such arguments.
Put it in simple terms, if TKL was willing to stand up for those Minibond victims while other politicians and people just sit idling by, do you seriously think that he will be more quiet than opposition politicians?

Goh Meng Seng
 
Dear Rogue,

I have addressed about Hainanese Clan "emotional baggage". As a Hainanese myself, I decided to support TKL instead. I am first and foremost, Singaporean and I have to take the Nation's interests into consideration first before I think about whether the candidate is my clansman or not.

If I do otherwise, just support whoever is my clansman, then I am no better than PAP people who would get their clansman's endorsement.

Goh Meng Seng

Har? You sarpok for TKL long before TJS announced his candidacy for the EP post right?
 
Like many people, I don't like the way things are happening now. I have a lot of respect for TJS and I think he can serve the country better as an MP.

However, it is plain to see you have bet on the wrong horse. TLK would have won it is was just he versus Nathan.. But alas it is not to be.

I do not place bets on the Future of Singapore. I don't place bet on President candidacy but just support whoever I sincerely believe who could be the best choice for Singapore Presidency. Even if he loses, I will still hold the view that he is the best man to do the job of President while respecting the choice of the people (which may not be the majority in this case).

Goh Meng Seng
 
TKL main supporters include GMS. Need we say more?

TJS is executing the by election effect strategy (BEES) which was first enacted by Chiam in 1991. In effect turning a general (in this case, presidential) election into a by-election and consequently into a referendum on PAP popularity. There are pros and cons. Having secured the far left he must now capture the centre. So far, he still has some ways to go.

TKL was the first to draw up his own agenda of what the PE is which does not bear any resemblance to the constitution.Sadly his supporters are light weight or complete unknowns.

TJS is treating this as Parliamentary Elections with Singapore as the constituency facing a by-elections. Notice that his entire campaign including speakers are all opposition identities. I thought he might be able to pull someone from the establishment. Clearly he was not prepared but having got the COE is not one to waste the opportunity.

TCB appears lost and I suspect wants to stay the course purely out of principle. TCB really must engage the people.

TT is clearly is peeved and has been quite temperamental. Sadly he appears to the Govt spokesman. His mannerism and the way he answers questions shows that he is upset the goalposts has moved and still moving.



Singaporeans however are clearly using this as a by-election and I suppose unfinished business from the recent GE.
 
I do not place bets on the Future of Singapore. I don't place bet on President candidacy but just support whoever I sincerely believe who could be the best choice for Singapore Presidency. Even if he loses, I will still hold the view that he is the best man to do the job of President while respecting the choice of the people (which may not be the majority in this case).

Goh Meng Seng

GMS, I am glad you are true to your beliefs.

Just let me ask you: if you see a big stone wall in front of you from 200meters away, would you still run straight in to it? Or would you make a detour around it? Sometimes, our hearts blind our eyes.

I wish you all the best. Hope you'll drop in here for visit once in a while.
 
GMS you disappoint me sorely. TJS is not about radical change. Have you even read or listened to what he has said. Tell me one word in TJS that screams "radical".

Each candidate is gravitating towards the centre because polling day is near. I understand where you and TKL are coming from. But what you said about TJS is needless and unhelpful. I think you should just admit that this is a good opportunity to exit NSP and get it over with and out of your system.

TKL has always been at the centre, he doesn't sway and stood firm on his position. That's the good virtue of his principled ways. It was other candidates shifting in a very opportunistic way just to win votes. People start to "copy" his ideas of donating Presidential salary to charity, pledge to be the voice of the people etc.

It is precisely because TJS started off with a radical positioning that he needs to move to the centre now. I am not saying TJS is bad or anything. I am even saying TJS would be an excellent opposition MP but in the interest of political stability for Singapore, he is not suitable to be the President. I have been consistent all this while, right from the start when I decided to look for a truly Independent potential Presidential candidate years ago.

There are very distinctive differences in what TJS says vs TKL. TKL is saying he wanted to be the Voice of the People while TJS is actually promoting the idea that when he becomes the President, he wants to push his economic agenda! In comparison, that is really radical.

As I have said before, no matter how hard he tries to portray himself as "less opposition", inevitably, his body language, his posturing, debating even speeches have betrayed him as a true and through opposition politician. He even declares that his Presidential contest would "raise the profile of opposition"... now, if he doesn't take himself as opposition, why would he think his contest would raise the profile of opposition?

To claim to be the "most independent" candidate of all the four is really bizarre and I have told him before privately over the phone. He has mixed up "independence" with "opposite". As a person who have contested against PAP, the ruling party, you will have to be on the opposite side, no ifs and buts. True independence only occurs when you don't really take sides.

Thus while you are actually on the opposite side, you will do what opposition would naturally do in politics. Even if you don't, people would perceive it that way and we will end up with endless political bickering on whether there are ulterior motives or political agendas. This is very divisive in nature, just by virtue of his inherent positioning as opposition member.

I am true to myself giving such comments and with due respect to Jee Say, IMHO, he is not suitable to be President, just as Tony Tan is.

Goh Meng Seng
 
GMS, I am glad you are true to your beliefs.

Just let me ask you: if you see a big stone wall in front of you from 200meters away, would you still run straight in to it? Or would you make a detour around it? Sometimes, our hearts blind our eyes.

I wish you all the best. Hope you'll drop in here for visit once in a while.

Why do you think I am contesting the GE even I know the odds are against me? ;)

Goh Meng Seng
 
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