PE - Hijacked !!

[scroobal]

Have been watching the PE for sometime and it is clear that the entire election has been hijacked.

TKL was the first to draw up his own agenda of what the PE is which does not bear any resemblance to the constitution.Sadly his supporters are light weight or complete unknowns.

TJS is treating this as Parliamentary Elections with Singapore as the constituency facing a by-elections. Notice that his entire campaign including speakers are all opposition identities. I thought he might be able to pull someone from the establishment. Clearly he was not prepared but having got the COE is not one to waste the opportunity.

TCB appears lost and I suspect wants to stay the course purely out of principle. TCB really must engage the people.

TT is clearly is peeved and has been quite temperamental. Sadly he appears to the Govt spokesman. His mannerism and the way he answers questions shows that he is upset the goalposts has moved and still moving.



Singaporeans however are clearly using this as a by-election and I suppose unfinished business from the recent GE.

 

[cleareyes]

Singaporeans however are clearly using this as a by-election and I suppose unfinished business from the recent GE.

Perhaps, we can say that 2011 could be the year that political change had really start to take place in Singapore

 

[Windsor]

Perhaps, we can say that 2011 could be the year that political change had really start to take place in Singapore

If TT loses, game over for the MIW as the momentum will push the opposition agenda forward to 2016. So please ensure a win for Singapore.

 

[rusty]

This is good news. For once we could get the M'fuckers In White out of the way if TJS wins...and Tony Tan,

I can tell you wanna fuck!

 

[kingrant]

We are about to cross the Rubicon, and TJS is the man to deliver us there. All the others to me disqualified themselves for having been associated with the PAP. At first, I thot TCB was a silver lining, but as time went, he too showed that he could not shake off that estab wiring in him.

I dont care if the PE has become a GE. All i want is for what has been breached at the Ge2011 to continue. If it has become a GE, it is the PAP's fault.

The EP is a PAP construct. It is beginning to backfire on the PAP and self-destruct.

With TJS as EP, we will get to see how the PAP will resolve this 'thorn'. That is why I asked "How do you remove a rogue President (rogue as seen by the PAP)?"

If TT is elected, the govt will surely tweak and tinker with the Constitution again to consolidate its gains and remove any remote possibility of a EP that can challenge its power centre. Would the PAP be desperate enough to stuff the ballot boxes to ensure a TT win? Now we realise the true value of these serial numbers on yr voting slips.

I say again, vote TJS to hold ground till the next GE. No other can do this well enough.

 

[kingrant]

I wonder if the ageing demagogue will be desperate enough to suspend the Constitution, call in the army, make mass arrests, shoot people who gather at Speaker's Corner...

 

[kingrant]

Really scro, the PAP has been shooting itself in the foot. Imagine so soon after the GE when wounds were still raw, the PAP starts irritating the people again with:

1. increase in transport fares
2. currygate
3. PA HDB fiasco
4. an NDP rally speech that sort of say, Business as usual..

Surely any idiot will be more careful with his strategies and tactics. really, the PAP machinery is unwinding...like the hydra with its many heads..it also goes in diff directions..

With Old Man as good as gone, the centre is now a vacuum. No one has the gravitas to lead the country now.

Have been watching the PE for sometime and it is clear that the entire election has been hijacked.

TKL was the first to draw up his own agenda of what the PE is which does not bear any resemblance to the constitution.Sadly his supporters are light weight or complete unknowns.

TJS is treating this as Parliamentary Elections with Singapore as the constituency facing a by-elections. Notice that his entire campaign including speakers are all opposition identities. I thought he might be able to pull someone from the establishment. Clearly he was not prepared but having got the COE is not one to waste the opportunity.

TCB appears lost and I suspect wants to stay the course purely out of principle. TCB really must engage the people.

TT is clearly is peeved and has been quite temperamental. Sadly he appears to the Govt spokesman. His mannerism and the way he answers questions shows that he is upset the goalposts has moved and still moving.



Singaporeans however are clearly using this as a by-election and I suppose unfinished business from the recent GE.

 

[rusty]

It would be sweeter if they throw in the wayanged ministerial pay now.

 

[scroobal]

It looks like it.

Perhaps, we can say that 2011 could be the year that political change had really start to take place in Singapore

 

[Debonerman]

TKL was the first to draw up his own agenda of what the PE is which does not bear any resemblance to the constitution.Sadly his supporters are light weight or complete unknowns.

I fully agree. Goh Meng Seng please read.

 

[scroobal]

I think they will live with the verdict as they know the constitution limits the power of President. Tactically it makes sense to allow the elected chap to blow hot air and ignore him completely. Anyway, nearly all those things that the President rejects can be overturned by 2/3rd of parliament such as key appointments. As to the reserve, I am sure they can live with not touching it. Its the people that will suffer as any needed relief cannot be released.

Its a wily govt. I don't think they too keen to make the Presidency look good if the elected one is not playing to their tune. If they were prepared to do it with Devan with the huge publicity, I am sure round 2 would be easy.

I wonder if the ageing demagogue will be desperate enough to suspend the Constitution, call in the army, make mass arrests, shoot people who gather at Speaker's Corner...

 

[Varuna]

Singaporeans however are clearly using this as a by-election and I suppose unfinished business from the recent GE.

If they had not unfairly tweaked the level playing field of GEs by re-drawing boundaries of GRC everytime, the make-up of the parliament would have been a more proportionate reflection of the outcome of the election results (i.e 40% oppositon and 60% ruling party). Then the pressure on PE would not have been that great. It is their undoing. What goes around, comes around. You can run but you can't hide for long.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

I understand the desire for "CHANGE" but I believe the Presidential Election should not be the platform to install radical change to the whole political system.

Singaporeans want Change but not the potential political instability which might come with it. This is the main reason why I would support TKL instead of TJS.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Rogue Trader]

I understand the desire for "CHANGE" but I believe the Presidential Election should not be the platform to install radical change to the whole political system.

Singaporeans want Change but not the potential political instability which might come with it. This is the main reason why I would support TKL instead of TJS.

Goh Meng Seng

You have inconsistent standards.. If you had won Tampinese GRC in May, wouldn't it be a "radical change" in parliament?

try again...

 

[scroobal]

Bro, I am really upset with PA, Cynthia Phua and Desmond Choo. When MPs elected by the people are not recognised it is an issue. It has come to the stage that the Office of President is no longer an issue and neither is it an important office. The PE has become a proxy to express people's displeasure on what is going on.

If the PAP feels that in the midst of the PE, they are screwing around using PA and rejected PAP candidates, they have another thing coming. All bets are off.

I understand the desire for "CHANGE" but I believe the Presidential Election should not be the platform to install radical change to the whole political system.

Singaporeans want Change but not the potential political instability which might come with it. This is the main reason why I would support TKL instead of TJS.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Windsor]

Bro, I am really upset with PA, Cynthia Phua and Desmond Choo. When MPs elected by the people are not recognised it is an issue. It has come to the stage that the Office of President is no longer an issue and neither is it an important office. The PE has become a proxy to express people's displeasure on what is going on.

If the PAP feels that in the midst of the PE, they are screwing around using PA and rejected PAP candidates, they have another thing coming. All bets are off.

I too think that the unhappy citizens will use the PE to show their displeasure after the GE 2011 expectations were not fully realised. If the MIW are not aware of this, then the results after 27th will definitely stun them.

 

[Debonerman]

I understand the desire for "CHANGE" but I believe the Presidential Election should not be the platform to install radical change to the whole political system.

Singaporeans want Change but not the potential political instability which might come with it. This is the main reason why I would support TKL instead of TJS.

Goh Meng Seng

Talk fucking cock! The Presidency; the enemy of the people's potential weak spot. And the Presidential Election is not the people's hope of an avenue towards the breaching of the PAP fortified walls of hegemony. I have to ask this question. What had Tan Kin Lian offered you?

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

You have inconsistent standards.. If you had won Tampinese GRC in May, wouldn't it be a "radical change" in parliament?

try again...

Put it this way, even PAP loses another 20 seats, it is not going to lose power... thus stability is still secured. However, if we have people with opposition mindset installed as the President, then what the PAP has intended initially when it designed this Elected Presidency may just come true... but ironically, in reverse... i.e. opposition inclined President curbing or even creating obstacles for the ruling party to rule effectively.

In spite of what PAP has claimed that EP is not suppose to be confrontational or second power base, but its intention of using it as a springboard and platform to cripple the "rogue government" if it loses power is pretty clear. Do you want that to happen? I don't, no matter from with direction.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Talk fucking cock! The Presidency; the enemy of the people's potential weak spot. And the Presidential Election is not the people's hope of an avenue towards the breaching of the PAP fortified walls of hegemony. I have to ask this question. What had Tan Kin Lian offered you?

Breaking PAP's hegemony is one thing but using Elected Presidency to do it will cause conflicts and confrontations between two bases which may just cripple the whole system.

I am ok for opposition to kick PAP out of power but at the same time, I don't want PAP to use the EP to destabilize or cripple the new opposition-government. Not just because I am opposition member but because this will potentially sink Singapore due to politicking. Who suffers while the politicians fight among themselves? The common Singaporeans.

It will work both ways: if an opposition-President is elected, the intense politicking will potentially cripple the whole system and create harm to the Nation.

For the record, TKL offers me ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and I help him unconditionally. Even if TKL is to offer me anything, I would politely decline because as good politician, I want to avoid being seen as opportunist.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Debonerman]

Put it this way, even PAP loses another 20 seats, it is not going to lose power... thus stability is still secured. However, if we have people with opposition mindset installed as the President, then what the PAP has intended initially when it designed this Elected Presidency may just come true... but ironically, in reverse... i.e. opposition inclined President curbing or even creating obstacles for the ruling party to rule effectively.

In spite of what PAP has claimed that EP is not suppose to be confrontational or second power base, but its intention of using it as a springboard and platform to cripple the "rogue government" if it loses power is pretty clear. Do you want that to happen? I don't, no matter from with direction.

Goh Meng Seng

Fucking cheebye! This means Tan Kin Lian's actual intention is to be just a kowtowing figurehead President collecting Millions of Dollars remuneration according to the Gospel of Goh Meng Seng!