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[tanwahtiu]

 

[AhΜeng]

chinks are the most useless species in this planet

 

[tanwahtiu]

Nevertheless, they managed to retake motherland China after the fumble.... and take sweet revenge 报仇雪恨 in their movies hammering the Jap into oblivion today...

我要杀你... 死日本人... 还死我们这么穷 。。。

Whereas Pinoy, m&d and ah neh are still fumbling not knowing who came to turn them into poverty today..

chinks are the most useless species in this planet

 

[syed putra]

If chinese women had worn the burka, there wouldn't be such incidence. You must change your custom and not allow women to flaunt their body

 

[Sideswipe]

communist bandits colluded with the japanese invaders and deceived the people that they valiantly fought them.

 

[Robert Half]

National Revolutionary Army (ROC Army) are true heroes of the Chinese history. They fought the Japanese for the freedom of China & fought against the commies in defending Taiwan.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Mao Zedong killed 78 million chinks and brainwashed the rest for generations.
Chinks are such dumbfucks

 

[mudhatter]

chinks are the most useless species in this planet

on par with ah nehs? or even worse?

 

[mudhatter]

Mao Zedong killed 78 million chinks and brainwashed the rest for generations.
Chinks are such dumbfucks

can't blame them alone

look at stinky chinks

none dare to protest against CAQ Ah Loong

despite the absence of a great firewall, no commie party, no restriction on foreign travel, freer internet access, loads of FT within its shores. forced frequent foreign tours for NS men who are paid a pittance of $400-500 otherwise.

and yet, no independent thought, no creativity, no originality, no initiatives.

only know how to copy-paste, copy cats know how to copy-paste

 

[tanwahtiu]

You Chinese from China.... the virus man...

You AM from 5 eye.... here you take this home... cough cough cough...

U want make opium money in China in 1832.... nah.... cough cough cough... now take this home, present from Chinese opium addicts CNY presents 2020 to yr Queen and drug Lord Palmerston...

Please come back for more ... cough cough cough...

 

[tanwahtiu]

Cough 3 times at CAMLK faces.. opium addict virus cough..

 

[mudhatter]

China and America Are Going Navy Crazy (As in Building Lots of New Warships)
A photograph of a Shanghai shipyard appears to reveal China’s massive naval buildup. But appearances can be deceiving. Yes, China is growing and modernizing its fleet. No, the country isn’t about to overtake the United States when it comes to naval power.

Forbes writer H.I. Sutton highlighted the December 2019 photo, which apparently depicts no fewer than nine destroyers and an aircraft carrier under construction or fitting out at the yard. “To put that into context, the Royal Navy’s entire destroyer fleet is just six ships,” Sutton explained. “And this yard is just part of a much bigger construction program.”

“The Chinese navy of today, and the future, is changed beyond all recognition from the Chinese navy of the past,” Sutton added. “The world naval balance is shifting.”

It’s true. Beijing since the 1990s heavily has invested in a sweeping naval modernization program that has resulted in the Chinese navy growing into the world’s second-largest maritime force.

The Chinese fleet in 2019 boasts scores of modern frigates, destroyers, submarines and amphibious assault ships. One medium-size aircraft carrier is in service in a training role. Another carrier is undergoing trials. A third, larger flattop is under construction in Shanghai and is visible in Sutton’s photo.


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But the photo probably isn’t actually all that remarkable, even considering that it depicts just one of China’s several major naval shipyards.

For starters, we don’t actually know exactly how many warships China is building at any given time, where exactly the country is building them, how much they cost and how well they work.

“Regarding Chinese shipbuilding advantages, it is difficult to obtain specific data,” wrote Andrew Erickson, a professor at the U.S. Naval War College in Rhode Island. “Numbers related to budgeting and process efficiency in China’s relatively opaque defense industry unfortunately remain very difficult to investigate precisely using open sources.”

Still, if you count civilian and military ship-construction, it’s safe to say that China has the most extensive overall shipbuilding infrastructure of any country, Erickson pointed out. That’s because Chinese yards still build lots of commercial vessels, whereas American yards increasingly have focused on the boutique military market rather than trying to compete with big Asian shipbuilders with their cheaper labor, lighter regulation and deeper government subsidies.

The commercial shipbuilding “helps subsidize military production, an option closed to the United States given its paucity of commercial shipbuilding,” Erickson explained.

But that doesn’t mean the United States’s seven major commercial naval shipyards aren’t building a lot of ships. The U.S. Navy is in the second decade of slow but steady naval buildup that has expanded the front-line fleet from a low of around 270 major warships to 290 today. The fleet aims to grow to 350 or 355 manned and unmanned major warships in around a decade’s time.

Annual shipbuilding budgets totalling at least $20 billion have sustained this build-up. Today at Bath Iron Works in Maine, five Arleigh Burke-class destroyers and one Zumwalt-class destroyer are under construction. Another six Burkes are on order. The yard also is gearing up to start building new missile frigates.

Another four Burkes are under construction at Huntington-Ingalls’s shipyard in Mississippi. Meanwhile, the U.S. Navy recently cut its biggest-ever contracts with shipbuilders in Connecticut and Virginia for new nuclear-powered attack submarines and aircraft carriers.

Newer shipyards in Alabama and Wisconsin produce Littoral Combat Ships and fast transports. NASSCO, a shipyard in San Diego that mostly makes support ships, recently reported one of its biggest-ever production backlogs.

The American fleet expects to commission at least 59 new large warships through 2024. But that building spree might not look like much. It’s unclear how many of the new ships simultaneously might appear in a single photograph of a single shipyard.

The numbers tell a different story than one photo does. In 2019 the Chinese fleet possesses 624 warships, according to U.S. Navy commander Keith Patton, writing for the Center for International Maritime Security. The American fleet by contrast has 333 “battle force” ships.

Officially, the U.S. Navy operates just 290 ships. Patton based his own, bigger tally on the figures in the 2019 edition of Jane’s Fighting Ships, which includes some patrol boats and auxiliary vessels that the Navy leaves out.

But counting hulls can be misleading, Patton wrote. For one, American ships on average are much bigger than Chinese and Russian ships are. “When tonnage is used as the metric, the picture changes dramatically.” The U.S. fleet in total displaces 4.6 million tons of water. The Chinese fleet displaces 1.8 million tons.

Of course, a big ship can be lightly armed. A small ship can be heavily armed. “Very similar if not identical anti-ship missiles are carried by small patrol combatants and mounted on the largest combatants, sometimes in identical quantities (eight being a popular number),” Patton explained.

“While the defensive and damage control capabilities of larger vessels may be greater, it still seems likely that a few missile hits will knock most ships out of action, if not sink them. If missiles are the true measure of a fleet’s combat power, then neither tonnage nor hull count is an appropriate metric, because neither is directly related to a ship’s missile capabilities.”

So Patton compared fleets by weaponry, a metric he borrowed from former U.S. deputy defense secretary Bob Work. Patton only counted offensive “battle-force missiles” such as heavy anti-air missiles, anti-ship missiles and land-attack cruise missiles.

By that standard, the U.S. fleet can carry around 12,000 battle-force missiles. Chinese ships in total can carry 5,200 BFMs. Again, this disparity in naval force isn’t evident in a single photo. Nor is the even greater difference between the U.S. and Chinese fleets when it comes to naval air power. “The U.S. has an almost twentyfold advantage in fixed-wing aircraft operating from ships,” Patton explained.

In short, don’t get carried away trying to assess a country’s naval power on the basis of a single photograph.

David Axe serves as Defense Editor of the National Interest. He is the author of the graphic novels War Fix, War Is Boring and Machete Squad.

Interesting metric used.

Crude but interesting nevertheless.

Of coz, what matters is integrated system-of-systems, rather than a single piece of equipment, or any single metric like tonnage, or experience, or budget, or allies, or EW/ECM/ESM, or a single instance of tactical brilliance or any other single metric when comparing countries like tiongkok or yankeeland, which are 1st and 3rd biggest cunt-ries by popn, huge in resources and at the top, perhaps top 2, when it comes to self sufficiency with russkies following tiongs closely behind.


Where does Stinkypura stand by that metric?

Will its navy's 8 Littoral Mission Vessels (LMVs) incl a standard pack of 8 (or more?) Anti ship missiles in standard 20' containers? or mission modules? What of the 4 incoming German origin "Invincible" type 218sg subs? How many cruise missiles? What is actual endurance underwater? Can shoot surface to air missile anot? To hit MPA and ASW helis?

Malaysia and Vietnam already got scorpene and Kilo subs within ASEAN that can shoot SM39 exocet and Kalibre cruise missiles from underneath water.

Where do Japs, Gooks, Fukiens, Ozzies or Ah Nehs, Pakis, Turkey stand? Indon? Malaysia? Doubt any navy in ASEAN can match stinkypura using that metric for now.

Indon and Malaysian navy ships tend to be heavily underarmed and often equipped with a few RCWS and short range SAM (like Mistral)


whereas with stinky "invincible" type 218sg german origin sub


got flank array sonar, got AIP with longer endurance (how many weeks underwater at a stretch? 6? some reports say maybe more), got what else apart from torpedo tubes? room for expansion in future also got.

here stinkypura navy teaches how to distinguish ships subs from their acoustic signature/sounds since underwater, subs can't see anything, only rely on sonars, and from surface or air, ships or planes or uav can't see subs, only rely on sonars or magnetic anomaly detection (which stinky new "invincible" german type 218 sg sub should be able to counter pretty well)




must gain exp, build up a library of acoustic signature for all enemy subs, also must build underwater sensor network in seas all around , otherwise, chance of friendly fire very, very high!


must watch out for indon ship building frenzy although of low quality for now, low tonnage, poor signature mgmt, poor sensors, poor networking ability got very few long range anti air, anti surface or anti sub missiles/rockets or ASW weapons, got no carriers either.


stinkypura going for f-35 version B, which is Short Take Off and Vertical Landing STOVL, means stinkies song song must raise GST and get mini-aircraft carriers at any cost.

wait for this year stinky air show starting feb 11

 

[tanwahtiu]

..... opium money to fund their country mordenization....

Qe know that Bell Corporation telephone cabling across atlantic ocean from UK to US were opium teade money .....

 

[LaoTze]

Interesting metric used.

Crude but interesting nevertheless.

Of coz, what matters is integrated system-of-systems, rather than a single piece of equipment, or any single metric like tonnage, or experience, or budget, or allies, or EW/ECM/ESM, or a single instance of tactical brilliance or any other single metric when comparing countries like tiongkok or yankeeland, which are 1st and 3rd biggest cunt-ries by popn, huge in resources and at the top, perhaps top 2, when it comes to self sufficiency with russkies following tiongs closely behind.


Where does Stinkypura stand by that metric?

Will its navy's 8 Littoral Mission Vessels (LMVs) incl a standard pack of 8 (or more?) Anti ship missiles in standard 20' containers? or mission modules? What of the 4 incoming German origin "Invincible" type 218sg subs? How many cruise missiles? What is actual endurance underwater? Can shoot surface to air missile anot? To hit MPA and ASW helis?

Malaysia and Vietnam already got scorpene and Kilo subs within ASEAN that can shoot SM39 exocet and Kalibre cruise missiles from underneath water.

Where do Japs, Gooks, Fukiens, Ozzies or Ah Nehs, Pakis, Turkey stand? Indon? Malaysia? Doubt any navy in ASEAN can match stinkypura using that metric for now.

Indon and Malaysian navy ships tend to be heavily underarmed and often equipped with a few RCWS and short range SAM (like Mistral)


whereas with stinky "invincible" type 218sg german origin sub


got flank array sonar, got AIP with longer endurance (how many weeks underwater at a stretch? 6? some reports say maybe more), got what else apart from torpedo tubes? room for expansion in future also got.

here stinkypura navy teaches how to distinguish ships subs from their acoustic signature/sounds since underwater, subs can't see anything, only rely on sonars, and from surface or air, ships or planes or uav can't see subs, only rely on sonars or magnetic anomaly detection (which stinky new "invincible" german type 218 sg sub should be able to counter pretty well)




must gain exp, build up a library of acoustic signature for all enemy subs, also must build underwater sensor network in seas all around , otherwise, chance of friendly fire very, very high!


must watch out for indon ship building frenzy although of low quality for now, low tonnage, poor signature mgmt, poor sensors, poor networking ability got very few long range anti air, anti surface or anti sub missiles/rockets or ASW weapons, got no carriers either.


stinkypura going for f-35 version B, which is Short Take Off and Vertical Landing STOVL, means stinkies song song must raise GST and get mini-aircraft carriers at any cost.

wait for this year stinky air show starting feb 11

America forgot about WW2 where China with barely any arms from USA and with single shot bolt rifles and swords and bare hands fought and killed 3,000,000 Japanese invaders?

And USA needed no less than aircraft carriers and battleships and planes and artilleries and automatic rifles to kill 300,000 Japs in the Pacific?

Or Korean War where China with single shot bolt action rifles drove USA and all her allies when USA firepower 100 times greater than China and fighting with automatic weapons and artillery and battleships with 16 inch guns .

The military might and strength of USA with heavy artillery and planes and tanks and battleships with 16 inch guns cannot be resisted by China with economy slightly out of stone age and with single shot bolt action rifles. Bolt operated rifles were just one stage above using muzzle loading muskets and black powder.

That Chinese be slaughtered and turned into red pulp should they dare to fight good old Dugout in Korea.

Chinese whacked USA and the UN combined that they had to flee south of the Parallel as demanded by China.Chinese fought with bolt operated rifles against Ma Dueces , automatic weapons and artillery and tanks and planes and chopters and battleships with 16″ guns.

Go read the book by David Halberstam
The Coldest Winter

Look on the front line at 24 Nov 1950 and the front line of 16 Dec 1950.

It took China only twenty days and less to do that push down to 38 parallel fighting USA and the UN combined who had 100 times and more of the firepower of China.

And what about Vietnam?
USA firepower at least 100 times that of Vietnam and China combined?

What is the miltary budget of USA that time and what was the military budget of goat herders of Afghan combined then?

Is the USA winning in Afghanistan? Is the USA about to win in Afghanistan?
Sheep herders in Afghanistan got only AKs and RPGs and home made explosives (that USA called IEDs) and even at that, the sheep herders in Afghan at each other throats and not united and collectively the military ordnance of those sheep herders might not even be 1% that of Iran.

And yet, USA with their B52s and other high tech toys and weapons on their way to being kicked out of Afghan .

Or USA Special Forces trained for months to fight and kill and backed by A-10s , B52s, unlimited bombs and ammo for Ma Deuces and shells for howitzers lost to a bunch of goat herders trained only to herd goats and armed only with AKs and RPGs.

There is No Military Victory in Afghanistan

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watch/there-no-military-victory-afghanistan-40892

And what about Somalia? USA firepower 1,000 times more than those with AKs and RPGs?
Do tell us the military budget of USA and military budget of the combined fishermen in Somalia?

And how about Iraq? Didn’t USA tried her best to kill Sadr? and the last I seen Sadr is the government in Iraq

With all the 'Murican supposed military might, 'Muricans won only three wars since WW2.
'Muricans might not even have won WW2 if not for Stalin taking on and killing the vast bulk of Werhmach soldiers and war machinery in Russia and Europe and China taking on and killing 3,000,000 Japs in China leaving USA to take out 300,000 Japs in Pacific.

Yah! the 3 wars 'Muricans won were against Nicaragua and Grenanda and Panama

 

[mudhatter]

https://www.military-today.com/missiles/hwasong_15.jpg

America forgot about WW2 where China with barely any arms from USA and with single shot bolt rifles and swords and bare hands fought and killed 3,000,000 Japanese invaders?

And USA needed no less than aircraft carriers and battleships and planes and artilleries and automatic rifles to kill 300,000 Japs in the Pacific?

Or Korean War where China with single shot bolt action rifles drove USA and all her allies when USA firepower 100 times greater than China and fighting with automatic weapons and artillery and battleships with 16 inch guns .

The military might and strength of USA with heavy artillery and planes and tanks and battleships with 16 inch guns cannot be resisted by China with economy slightly out of stone age and with single shot bolt action rifles. Bolt operated rifles were just one stage above using muzzle loading muskets and black powder.

That Chinese be slaughtered and turned into red pulp should they dare to fight good old Dugout in Korea.

Chinese whacked USA and the UN combined that they had to flee south of the Parallel as demanded by China.Chinese fought with bolt operated rifles against Ma Dueces , automatic weapons and artillery and tanks and planes and chopters and battleships with 16″ guns.

Go read the book by David Halberstam
The Coldest Winter

Look on the front line at 24 Nov 1950 and the front line of 16 Dec 1950.

It took China only twenty days and less to do that push down to 38 parallel fighting USA and the UN combined who had 100 times and more of the firepower of China.

And what about Vietnam?
USA firepower at least 100 times that of Vietnam and China combined?

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watch/there-no-military-victory-afghanistan-40892

With all the 'Murican supposed military might, 'Muricans won only three wars since WW2.
'Muricans might not even have won WW2 if not for Stalin taking on and killing the vast bulk of Werhmach soldiers and war machinery in Russia and Europe and China taking on and killing 3,000,000 Japs in China leaving USA to take out 300,000 Japs in Pacific.

Yah! the 3 wars 'Muricans won were against Nicaragua and Grenanda and Panama

Yanks use psychological warfare and propaganda to boost their image.

their poodles vassals and stooges together number 1 billion ppl or more.

in reality, yanks in their entire history could never fight, defeat and smash a country that was at least 10 times as populous as them.

never.

in short, population size matters when you count national might


and despite that, yank performance isn't exemplary

they rely on numbers and isolation from the bulk of the world (eurasia+africa) to conduct wars against weakened countries, but precisely because they are isolated from eurasia+africa, there is all the more reason to drop 5,000 nukes on them to incinerate them altogether first, before eliminating yankees from the planet.

nuclear radiation on yankee territory should not affect much of the world, maybe some poor mexicans on the border need to be given advanced warning.



if even norkies can build ICBM and nuclear bombs, no reason for countries like Iran (with its shia agenda) or Turkey (with no clear direction apparently, neither an Ottoman agenda, not an Islamic agenda, not a secular agenda, or a Turkic superstate agenda or ... no clear agenda at all) not to build nuclear bombs and ICBMs, and stock pile enough of them (at least 5000 warheads and sufficient delivery vehicles/ICBM). they should build the bomb, build ICBM, and stockpile enuff of them to ensure all outsiders (yanks russkies or whatever) are expelled from the wider Middle eastern theater - by force if necessary


utterly stupid of 80 million populated countries like turkey or 80 million populated countries like Iran to try to go toe to toe with yanks or russkies in their own region.

their stupid games are costing millions of innocent Muslims in the only overwhelming Muslim majority region of the world to suffer immensely, deaths, destruction, torture, indescribable sufferings of all sorts.

utterly stupid are the iranian leaderships and turkish leaderships - both of them.

malaysia with too many kafir bastards (mostly chinks - hope that the bulk of them are eliminated with wuhan virus) and too few Muslims can't do much. anywhere you see kafir amongst muslims, you know for a fact that they would backstab Muslims. happens and happened in egypt, in indonesia, in lebanon, in bangla, in kazakhstan, in nigeria, in syria.

you get the drift.

the three strongest Muslim majority countries are Iran, turkey and Pakistan, precisely, because they are the three biggest (most populous) countries where the popn' is overwhelmingly (almost 100%) Muslim. also mostly Caucasoid populations. the best combos. almost entirely Caucasoid + almost entirely Muslim.

just not enough ppl to go around, that's the problem. tiongkok alone got 1400 million chinks! ah nehs got another 1300m stinking saffron terrorists ! yanks alone got 330 m or so kafir amidst their popn. incl europa and all other westerners u got over 1000 million kafir there too.

what can iran with 80 million ppl or turkey with 80 million ppl do? not today, not in 10 years, not in the next 20 years, not in the next 50 years, not in the next 100 years can they begin to match any of these bigger powers, leave alone domination of them.


building the bomb is the right solution, right now, today.

and unlike Pakistan, which has no ICBM as of today and can't build them, because with ICBM and enuff nuclear bombs, pakistan could have simply told the yanks to sod off from afghanistan and closed all supply routes to afghanistan through their territory. they can't do that coz while pakis have nukes, they have no means of delivering enuf nukes to continental yankeeland, since they have no ICBM that can travel 12,000 km or more.

like this

must add

iranian regime

consists of some extra stupid leaders

no doubts about it

if you are accused of building the bomb,

if you are punished (sanctioned isolated threats of invasion embargo etc etc etc the list is too long to mention)

you might as well build the bomb in huge numbers (over 5000 warheads) and test the bomb + ICBM (this is important since if you are like Pakistan which has nukes but no ICBM to deliver the nukes on yankee homeland, then you got no deterrence. Pakistani make-belief story that they can build ICBM is not credible since if they could have done so, it makes eminent sense to have done so already and avoided all the chaos sufferings instability and deaths and destruction during the last 15 or so years on their own homeland)

by testing ICBM+ stockpiling adequate number of nukes, pakistan could have simply asked the yankees to sod off from afghanistan and blocked all supply routes to afghanistan.

would the yanks have asked iran for access to afghanistan?

ergo, it stands to reason that pakistan got their ballistic missile tech from china (and north korea for liquid fuelled nodong/ghauri ballistic missiles) which is why they can't (publicly) test ICBM (tiongs are reluctant to share this tech with pakistan bcoz tiongs dont want yankee homeland to be nuked. remember it is tiongs who purchased yankee t-bills in huge numbers and it is tiongkok who saved yankees after 2008 financial crisis) and remember it is tiongs who support and approve yankee presence in afghanistan and it is tiongs who recognize zionists. russkies recognize zionist entity coz most zionists are actually emigrants from russkies own homeland, coz jews in russkie territory got huge influence. puting also became their obedient poodle. otherwise can't remain in power.).

u see, all in all, none of these countries are

great powers, or superpowers

and none of these countries have the potential to be great powers or superpowers either.

not big enough populations, not talented enuff populations, not talented enuff leaderships, poor work ethic, little high tech exports or high tech sector, low quality publications in sci tech areas, little citations per person in sci tech disciplines either.

not good enuff.

 

[taksinloong]

https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2020-03-02/doc-iimxxstf5701946.shtml


军队已派出4000多医护人员支援武汉 目前保持零感染

新京报
03月02日 10:30关注

新京报快讯（记者 许雯）3月2日，国务院联防联控机制就军队支援地方抗击新冠肺炎疫情有关情况举行发布会。中央军委后勤保障部卫生局局长陈景元介绍，军队已先后派出3批共4000多名医护人员支援武汉，目前保持零感染。
新京报记者 许雯


The army has sent more than 4,000 medical staff to support Wuhan



Beijing News

March 02 10: 30Follow



Beijing News (Reporter Xu Wen) On March 2nd, the State Council's joint prevention and control mechanism held a press conference on the military's support to the local fight against the new crown pneumonia epidemic. Chen Jingyuan, director of the Health Bureau of the Logistics Department of the Central Military Commission, introduced that the army has sent three batches of more than 4,000 medical staff to support Wuhan. At present, it has maintained zero infection.

Beijing News reporter Xu Wen

 

[A Singaporean]

Old news. Like reading history book.

 

[Fluranxol]

China says even if fucking Dotard gave all of US Navy's 12 aircraft carriers to Taiwan also will never be able to prevent PLA to conquer Taiwan and 武统 the fuck of it!

This simple strategic fact is crystal clear because Taiwan is only 200~300km from mainland China, and thousands of Chinese DongFeng (DF) missiles cover this range 20X over, and no warship can escape sinking fate. 12 US carriers are far too little number of targets for Rocket Army to sink. Too small numbers and too near to even give a fucking thought.

https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2019-12-21/doc-iihnzahi9065475.shtml

乔良：即使美12艘航母全卖给台湾 也不能保证其独立

2019年12月21日 17:03 环球网


国防大学教授、少将乔良
[环球网报道 记者 左甜]在21日举行的环球时报2020年年会上，国防大学教授、少将乔良在接受环球网记者采访时表示，即使美国把12艘航母全部卖给台湾，也不能保证他们独立。
乔良表示，美国人卖给台湾武器，除了凭空造一张对付中国的牌外，就是让台湾当冤大头，给美国人送钱。对大陆和台湾的关系的改变，起不了根本性作用。
乔良认为，美国卖多少武器给台湾都是没有意义的。“即使美国把12艘航母全部卖给台湾，仍然不能保证台湾独立。”
乔良还表示，台湾没有任何独立的本钱和能力，也别想指望美国人在关键时刻，为台湾流血。美国绝不会为台湾“火中取栗”。
乔良还提到20年前在接受台湾记者采访时的一次表态。“台湾要想独立只有一个办法，把台湾岛在水下从根部锯掉，然后让台湾岛向东漂移600公里以上，那台湾‘独立’的可能性就比较一大了。如果没有，台独就只能是一种幻想。”





Qiao Liang: Even if all 12 US aircraft carriers are sold to Taiwan, their independence cannot be guaranteed
December 21, 2019 17:03 Global Network
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Source: Global Network of: sweet left

2019-12-21 16:47

乔 Qiao Liang, Professor and Major General of National Defense University

[Global Network Reporter Zuo Tian] At the Global Times 2020 Annual Meeting held on the 21st, National Defense University professor and major general Qiao Liang said in an interview with a Global Network reporter that even if the United States sells all 12 aircraft carriers to Taiwan, it cannot Keep them independent.

Bian Qiaoliang said that in addition to making a card against China, Americans sold weapons to Taiwan to make Taiwan an injustice and give Americans money. Changes in the relationship between the mainland and Taiwan cannot play a fundamental role.

Qi Qiaoliang believes that it doesn't make sense to sell as much weapons as possible to Taiwan. "Even if the United States sells all 12 aircraft carriers to Taiwan, it still cannot guarantee Taiwan independence."

He Qiaoliang also said that Taiwan does not have any independent capital and ability, and do not expect Americans to bleed for Taiwan at a critical moment. The United States will never "pull chestnuts" for Taiwan.

Qi Qiaoliang also mentioned a statement made in an interview with a Taiwan reporter 20 years ago. "Taiwan has only one way to become independent. Saw Taiwan Island from the roots under water, and then let Taiwan Island drift more than 600 kilometers eastward. The possibility of Taiwan's" independence "is greater. If not, Taiwan independence will It can only be a fantasy. "
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So , this is the same 国防大学教授、少将乔良 that just wrote this??
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/realtime/china/story20200505-1050858

 

[war is best form of peace]

https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2020-05-10/doc-iircuyvi2341456.shtml

我军无人战车正式服役！外形小巧却显示惊人杀伤力

2020年05月10日 15:56 环球网



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近日，中国人民解放军东部战区官方账号发布消息，继无人机之外，又有一款无人装备——新型战斗侦察型无人作战车辆UGV已经服役，据报道，UGV目前已经装备至中国人民解放军陆军部队。这也是官方首次正式对外披露，证实中国无人作战车辆列装部队服役的消息。

据《简氏防务周刊》报道，这次解放军官媒报道已经加入解放军服役的无人作战车辆，其实已经多次公开亮相过了。它就是中国北方工业公司研制的“锐爪1”型战斗侦察型小型无人战车 。
“锐爪1”型无人战车为典型的小型履带式无人战车，于2014年珠海航展上首次公开亮相，它长70厘米，高60厘米，全重120千克，操作范围为1千米。
锐爪1型无人战车可以在战场上为班级或排级单位执行近距离侦察、探测和监视任务。也可根据任务需求灵活换装武器，如果执行火力支援任务，可以将7.62毫米班用机枪搭载到平台上。除此之外还可以装载短程光电载荷、机器视觉和照明组件以及新设计的遥控武器站。

“锐爪1”既可以自主行走，也可以搭载在更大的“锐爪”2运输型无人战车的车舱中，行军时由“锐爪”2运输，当到达作战区域后则从锐爪2型轮式无人战车车舱后放下的背板上行驶而下，投入战斗。
4年后，在2018年珠海航展上，北方公司又再次展出了“锐爪”1无人战车的升级改进版本，新版本具有多项升级功能 ，包括：
改进的短程光电载荷、机器视觉和照明组件以及新设计的遥控武器站，该武器站采用弹药箱供弹，可以提高无人战车的持续火力射击能力。

依照中国军工的传统习惯，一旦中国掌握了某项先进技术未来一定会将其“白菜化”，将欧美眼中的高科技产品卖出“白菜价”。如无人机系列：中国的彩虹、翼龙系列无人机，在作战性能基本相当的情况下，成本仅为欧美产品价格的几分之一。
除此之外DSI进气道技术，也是中国白菜化生产的最好证明。DSI进气道技术最早应用于美军第四代隐身战斗机F-35上，连F-22战斗机都没能使用上这项先进技术。但这项技术随后在中国开始开枝散叶，“枭龙”战斗机、歼-20战斗机、歼-10B/C、甚至连FTC-2000G“神鹰”教练机都采用了这项技术。

中国的白菜化生产能力是毋庸置疑的，目前解放军官方并未向外透露“锐爪1”具体的服役时间，也没有公开装备的数量，也没有具体公布究竟是哪一支部队，装备了这种无人战车的作战部队，随着这型无人战车的批量服役，可能会改变未来陆军的作战方式 。
相对比传统的有人车辆载具，无人作战车辆将具备更大的安全性，可以最大程度上减少人员的损失，在一些不适合人员作战的偏远地形复杂地区，无人作战车辆就可以发挥出它的优势。

中国已经正式进入了目前仅有少数几个成员的“无人作战车辆服役国家”俱乐部。现在中国陆军已经基本实现了机械化，未来中国陆军一定会向信息化方向转型。随着无人作战车辆的装备，必将大大提升中国陆军的技术化和信息化水平。无人平台的装备赋予了步兵分队更强的作战能力，与传统陆军相比，在战场侦察、态势感知能力和火力打击能力将有明显提高。
来源：图谏 兵工科技

 

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Our army's unmanned combat vehicles are officially in service! Small form factor shows amazing lethality

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Recently, the official account of the eastern theater of the Chinese People's Liberation Army released news that in addition to drones, there is another unmanned equipment-a new combat reconnaissance type unmanned combat vehicle UGV has been in service. According to reports, UGV is currently equipped to the Chinese People's Liberation Army Army troops. This is also the first official disclosure to the outside world, confirming the news that China's unmanned combat vehicles are installed in the army.



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According to the "Jane's Defense Weekly" report, this time the PLA's official media reported that the unmanned combat vehicles that have joined the PLA's service have actually been publicly unveiled many times. It is a "sharp claw 1" combat reconnaissance small unmanned combat vehicle developed by China North Industries Corporation.
The "sharp claw 1" unmanned combat vehicle is a typical small tracked unmanned combat vehicle. It debuted at the 2014 Zhuhai Air Show. It is 70 cm long, 60 cm high, and has a total weight of 120 kg. km.
The sharp claw 1 unmanned combat vehicle can perform close-range reconnaissance, detection and surveillance tasks for class or platoon units on the battlefield. Weapons can also be flexibly changed according to mission requirements. If fire support tasks are performed, a 7.62 mm shift machine gun can be mounted on the platform. In addition, it can also load short-range photoelectric loads, machine vision and lighting components, and newly designed remote control weapon stations.



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"Razor Claw 1" can either walk autonomously or be carried in the cabin of the larger "Razor Claw 2" transport unmanned combat vehicle. It is transported by "Razor Claw 2" when marching, and when it reaches the combat area, it The sharp claw 2 wheeled unmanned combat vehicle cabin is driven down by the rear panel that is lowered into the battle.
Four years later, at the 2018 Zhuhai Air Show, North Company once again exhibited the upgraded version of the "Razor Claw 1" unmanned combat vehicle. The new version has multiple upgrade functions, including:
Improved short-range photoelectric load, machine vision and lighting components, and a newly designed remote control weapon station, the weapon station uses ammunition boxes for bombs, which can improve the continuous firepower of unmanned combat vehicles.



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According to the traditional habits of China's military industry, once China has mastered a certain advanced technology, it will "cabbage" it in the future and sell high-tech products in the eyes of Europe and the United States for "cabbage prices." Such as UAV series: China's Rainbow, Pterosaur series UAV, in the case of combat performance is basically equivalent, the cost is only a fraction of the price of European and American products.
In addition, DSI inlet technology is also the best proof of Chinese cabbage production. DSI air intake technology was first applied to the US military's fourth-generation stealth fighter F-35. Even the F-22 fighter did not use this advanced technology. However, this technology subsequently began to spread out in China. The "Fierce Dragon" fighter, J-20 fighter, J-10B / C, and even the FTC-2000G "Condor" trainer have adopted this technology.



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China's cabbage production capacity is unquestionable. At present, the PLA official has not disclosed the specific service time of "Sharp Claw 1", nor has it disclosed the number of equipment, nor has it specifically announced which unit is equipped with this Combat forces of this type of unmanned combat vehicle, with the mass service of this type of unmanned combat vehicle, may change the way the army fights in the future.
Compared with traditional manned vehicle vehicles, unmanned combat vehicles will have greater safety and can minimize the loss of personnel. In some remote and complex terrain that is not suitable for human combat, unmanned combat vehicles can be used. Its advantages.



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China has officially entered the "Unmanned Combat Vehicle Service Country" club with only a few members. Now that the Chinese Army has basically achieved mechanization, in the future, the Chinese Army will definitely transform into the direction of informatization. With the equipment of unmanned combat vehicles, the technical and information level of the Chinese Army will be greatly improved. The equipment of the unmanned platform gives the infantry unit stronger combat capabilities. Compared with the traditional army, the reconnaissance, situational awareness and fire attack capabilities of the battlefield will be significantly improved.
Source: Tu Jian Ordnance Technology