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Chinese supplied the essential facilities recently completed installation in Putin's largest naval yard ready to build aircraft carriers & other warships that will beef up Russian Navy. Currently the Russian are left with the best Submarine Yard, which is not suitable to build other than submarines.


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Russian Ace Submarine are made of dual layer Titanium Hull can dive to 1200m which double of US navy subs.

There is an un-man sub carried by the manned sub, that will dive to 2000m. US Navy don't have.


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The 300~400 pcs of small Lego blocks were originally being built up inside the shipyard shelter, hidden from views of satellites and public. But as they progressed, the Lego blocks are aggregated into huge section, weighing thousands of tons, and must be hoisted out to the open yard, otherwise their sizes and weights would exceed what the in-door overhead canes could move. The giant gentry crane are over the out-door yard only. Final assembly area. So huge sub sections are beginning to come out from shelter one by one, basic dimensions of beam draft etc, become visible. Gradually becoming more and more clear.

This the 1st 2 photos, the blocks in dark brown under-coating pain color under the giant gentry crane, are the blocks that will be final assembled into #003 carrier.

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-07-30/doc-ihfxsxzh9827697.shtml

中国第二艘国产航母制造模块曝光 明年有望整体亮相

中国第二艘国产航母制造模块曝光 明年有望整体亮相



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近日,据各方面渠道消息,我海军新一代航母“003”号的动力舱分段制造模块已经在上海江南造船厂现身,而这个模块的现身则意味着两件事情。首先,就是航母的部分模块建造已经完成,随时可以进行搭建制造,其次,就是航母的制造速度基本上可以推断,这艘航母将会在2019年开始进入船坞总体搭建。按照这个速度,2020年下半年航母就会下水,2021年即可完成制造,到2022年初航母就能进入海试阶段,在2024年前完成可以形成战斗力。如果大连同时制造一艘同级航母,那么我海军在2024年、2025年就会拥有两艘电磁弹射航母,比美海军还要多一艘,而下一代核动力电磁弹射航母也在研发当中。
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003超级航母的建造模式不同于002,而是和英国海军的“伊丽莎白女王”级类似,从技术层面上来说超越了美海军的福特级,但尺寸上又超过了伊丽莎白女王级。从目前曝光的模块来看,其尺寸也要比002大一些,船体宽度应该在40米上下,这个尺寸要比002宽4米左右,而从这个船体尺寸逆推船体长度,可以得出船体长度超过320米,而这样尺寸的一艘航母,飞行甲板宽度必然在75米以上,单纯从尺寸而言已经超过了美海军的福莱斯特级,达到了小鹰级的水准。
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且因为电磁弹射器的加持,作战能力实际上不亚于尼米兹级,在出动率等方面的效率和福特级相当,仅仅在最大载机量、甲板尺寸、排水量以及持续作战能力方面不如福特级航母,在下一代核动力航母服役后这个问题即可改善。这样的航母最大的优势不在于级别,而在于建造速度上,全球没有一个国家在建造这种超过八万吨超级航母的时候,拥有如此强大的制造速度,即使美海军也是如此,很难在如此迅速的情况下,制造出强大的航母。美海军制造一艘航母的周期早在尼米兹级就达到了6年以上,福特级首舰目前更是已经达到了12年,二号舰也超过8年,目前来看,我海军制造一艘航母的周期仅仅只有不到4年,按照002的速度来计算,只需要3年左右即可完成船坞以内的所有建造工作,速度比福特级快上两倍左右。
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即使按照同吨位的制造速度来判断,其建造速度也超过了绝大多数航母,与美海军计划的10年三艘航母看,我海军极限情况下甚至可以做到十年6艘的速度,当然我海军并不需要这么多航母,但拥有如此强大的建造能力,必然能够在战争期间占据优势,因为在作战期间完全可以把建造、舾装、形成战斗力时间再压缩一倍以上,两年即可交付一批航母。003的开始总装是要比002即将再次开始海试还要重要的消息,这不但是我海军最强大的航母,也是全球最先进的航母之一,单论技术与美海军福特相当。(作者署名:军情视野)

China's second domestic aircraft carrier manufacturing module is expected to be unveiled next year
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Recently, according to various channels, the naval carrier segmentation manufacturing module of the Navy's new generation aircraft carrier "003" has appeared in Shanghai Jiangnan Shipyard, and the appearance of this module means two things. First of all, the construction of some modules of the aircraft carrier has been completed, and construction can be carried out at any time. Secondly, the manufacturing speed of the aircraft carrier can basically be inferred. The aircraft carrier will begin to enter the overall dock construction in 2019. According to this speed, the aircraft carrier will be launched in the second half of 2020, and the manufacturing will be completed in 2021. By the beginning of 2022, the aircraft carrier can enter the sea trial stage, and it can be completed by 2024. If Dalian manufactures a similar aircraft carrier at the same time, then our Navy will have two electromagnetic bombing aircraft carriers in 2024 and 2025, one more than the US Navy, and the next generation nuclear-powered electromagnetic ejection aircraft carrier is also under development.
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The 003 super-aircraft carrier's construction mode is different from 002, but similar to the British Navy's "Elisabeth" class, technically surpassing the US Navy's Ford class, but the size exceeds the Queen Elizabeth class. From the current exposed module, its size is also larger than 002, the hull width should be above 40 meters, this size is about 4 meters wider than 002, and the hull length can be obtained by reversing the hull length from the hull size. More than 320 meters, and an aircraft carrier of this size, the flight deck width must be more than 75 meters, simply beyond the size of the US Navy's Forrest level, reaching the level of the Eagles.
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And because of the bounce of the electromagnetic catapult, the combat capability is actually no less than the Nimitz class. The efficiency in terms of the rate of dispatch is comparable to that of the Ford. It is not as good as Ford in terms of maximum load capacity, deck size, displacement and continuous combat capability. The class aircraft carrier can be improved after the service of the next generation nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. The biggest advantage of such an aircraft carrier is not the level. However, in terms of construction speed, no country in the world has such a strong manufacturing speed when building such a super-80,000-ton super-carrier. Even the US Navy is so hard. In a rapid situation, a strong aircraft carrier is built. The US Navy’s cycle of manufacturing an aircraft carrier has been at the Nimitz level for more than 6 years. The Ford-class first ship has now reached 12 years, and the second ship has been more than 8 years. At present, my navy manufactures one. The cycle of the aircraft carrier is only less than 4 years. According to the speed of 002, it takes only about 3 years to complete all the construction work within the dock, which is about twice as fast as the Ford.
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Even if it is judged according to the manufacturing speed of the same tonnage, its construction speed exceeds that of most aircraft carriers. With the three-year aircraft carrier planned by the US Navy for 10 years, the speed of the Navy can even be achieved for 10 years. Our navy does not need so many aircraft carriers, but with such a strong construction capability, it will certainly be able to take advantage of the war, because during the combat period, it is possible to more than double the time of construction, armor and combat formation. Deliver a batch of aircraft carriers. The final assembly of 003 is more important than the 002 is about to start the sea test again. This is not only the most powerful aircraft carrier of the Navy, but also one of the most advanced aircraft carriers in the world. The technology is similar to that of the US Navy. (Author's signature: military vision)
 

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https://tw.news.yahoo.com/國家淪陷-戍守總統府憲兵-國旗竟反貼-100447072.html

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The country fell? Adhere to the flag of the presidential government gendarmerie

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Is the national identity of the national army confused? The former government sect of the presidency was photographed with the flag armband "upside down", and the Ministry of Defense's press release directly called "China" directly to the other side.

Reporter Xiang Zhenwei: "Gendarmerie protection is not only the security of the head of state, but also our constitutional police, but the sharp-eyed people have found that there are guards who have put the flag back."

This photo of the former military policeman of the presidential palace surprised many people because the national flag of the left arm was upside down. This represents a difficult, fragrant, surrender or even insult to the country. As a result, this happened to the constitutional guardian. If you say that you will self-examine, follow your sister, and supervise your costumes before going out, how can this happen?

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Taipei City Councilor Chen Yanbo: "I remember that when we used to go to the gendarmerie, we used to look in the mirror all day long. The words on the military were not exhausted. After we didn't pay attention, everyone was loose. Everyone loosened."

The predecessors of the gendarmerie retired shook their heads. The gendarmerie confessed to the mistakes. Although it was not punished, the review of the future would no longer use the devil's felt, and it would directly sew to avoid recidivism. The national army was questioned by the national identity swing. The Cloud Leopard car, which is responsible for the president's relocation, was leaked by the media to use the mainland's inferior goods. The Ministry of National Defense issued a press release refuting the accidental use of the word "China". Although the first paragraph is to quote the report, the third paragraph is the subject of the Ministry of Defense. The position is called China on the other side, and it is very inappropriate for the senior members who have been in Congress for 17 years to sigh.

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Lin Yufang, the convener of the National Security Foundation Guoan Group: "The DPP’s black-handed Taiwan independence has already reached the army and has already reached the Ministry of National Defense. Even the Ministry of Defense, which has always defended the Republic of China, has already bowed."

The Ministry of Defense insists on using this vocabulary because it quotes the content of the report. In the future, it will be called "China mainland". However, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of National Defense have successively confused the use of words, and the relationship between the two sides cannot be ignored.

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Vietnam's 513 Chinese effect Taiwanese businessmen are allowed to hang the flag of the Republic of China
Foreign media fun test Taiwan's enrollment nearly 90% recognized the Republic of China flag
The bronze statue of Chiang Kai-shek, the "Zhongzheng Temple", was attacked by the young Taiwanese language and shouted "Go to Chiang".


國家淪陷?戍守總統府憲兵 國旗竟反貼

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國軍的國家認同出現混淆了嗎?總統府前憲兵被拍到國旗臂章「上下顛倒」貼反的狀況,而國防部的新聞稿更首次直接以「中國」直呼對岸。

記者相振為:「憲兵保護的不僅是國家元首安全,還是我們的憲法警察,但是有眼尖的民眾發現竟然有衛兵把國旗貼反了。」

總統府前憲兵這張照片令不少人大吃一驚,因為左手臂的國旗上下顛倒,這可是代表國家有難、淪陷、或是投降,甚至有污辱之意,結果這發生在憲法守護者身上,正常來說上哨前會自我檢察、跟同僚、由長官督導服裝儀容,怎麼還會發生這種事?

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台北市議員陳彥伯:「我記得我們以前憲兵上哨的時候一天到晚都在照鏡子,軍容上面來講的話因為不講究了,不講究之後大家就鬆散了,大家一鬆散大家就隨便了。」

憲兵退伍的前輩搖搖頭,對此憲兵坦承誤失,雖不懲處,但檢討未來不再用魔鬼氈、會直接縫死以免再犯,國軍被質疑國家認同搖擺不只這一樁。專門負責總統移防的雲豹甲車被媒體紕漏使用大陸的劣質品,國防部發新聞稿駁斥,意外直接使用「中國」字眼,雖然首段是引述報導內容,第三段的陳述卻是國防部主觀立場稱呼對岸為中國,讓曾在國會17年的資深委員大嘆非常不妥。

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國政基金會國安組召集人林郁方:「民進黨台獨的黑手已經伸進了軍隊、已經伸進國防部,連一向最捍衛中華民國的國防部都已經低頭了。」

對此國防部堅持是因為引述報導內容才用這個詞彙,未來還是會以「中國大陸」稱之,但外交部跟國防部相繼出現用字混淆的狀況,對兩岸關係不能等閒視之。
 

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A lot of very interesting and informative news here of the Chinese AShMs.
H-6k will be carriers of those missiles to hunt out and sink the USA carriers and other USA Burke and Ticonderogas.
And of course, Chinese 055 , 052s , and submarines, and land and island bases , and other planes like J-20s and J-16s can also fire the AShMs.
Even a Chinese lorry and sampan can fire the missiles that can bring down a fucking USA carrier.
And try not to forget the DF-21s and DF-26s

and USA want to play play.

Dotard better crawl to Beijing on bended knees and kow tow 3 times to Xi Dada.


NO MORE ANGMOH DUA KEE
IT IS CHINESE DUA DUA KEE


WANG SUI WANG WANG SUI

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How far can carrier hide? Hide for duck... think this is sniper carrier... hit and run... coward act than dont go war.

Island airbase is in fashion act as deterrent and stop carrier enter or near mainland. End of day carrier has to fight the airbase first before can enter the country water...

Why more stupid than trump...


Chinese satellites know every second where the USA carriers are located once they cross the 3rd Island Chain.
Fleet of supersize stealth surveillance UAVs , Divine Eagles (Sheng Ying China Flies Its Largest Ever Drone: The Divine Eagle)

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and Soaring Dragons (Xianglong China’s supersized ‘Xianglong’ surveillance drone gets ready to soar )


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and flying at 25 km altitude will track USA air assets and carriers in conjunction with the satellites. And relay targetting infomation to the DFs and AShMs.
The carriers can run, but cannot hide.


For those curious as to what DFs and AShMs can do.
Quora User's answer to What if an aircraft carrier such as USS Nimitz is hit by a single Chinese carrier killer missile, how long will the carrier take to sink completely?


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That warhead will be about a ton of tungsten coming down at Mach 10 to Mach 15 to bring the good news to that carrier.
Not a piddling Mach 5 as what you thought. And a ton of anything even if just toilet bowls at Mach 10++ will not be cheery news.


I dont know if the carrier will sink or how long it will take to sink.
I think neither will those on the carrier worry about it sinking or floating after the hit. And if they do not worry, neither should anyone here.

Quora User's answer to Is the "carrier killer" Dong-Feng DF-21D a real threat to US aircraft carriers?


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Worry over the DF-21Ds will be quite unnecessary.
But make no mistake. DF-21Ds did not just strike at targets in the desert.


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DF-21D struck a ship of 10,000 tons moving in Pacific Ocean. That ship was much smaller than a 90,000 tons carrier. Not only would that shot be equivalent to a head shot. It was a hitting the Medulla Oblongata.

Try to read the details here

Quora User's answer to Did the DF-21D missile reach out and touch a moving ship on the water?
 

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https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpress.com/2016/02/01/chinas-divine-eagle-anti-stealth-uav/


China’s Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV is probably an interferometer
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Form follows function.
Why would China build a complex double-body aircraft instead of a single large fuselage (like the Global Hawk)?
The only scientific explanation is an interferometer.
Satellites in space (where there is no air) can fly in fix formations and perform as a single larger interferometer. An example is China’s NOSS (ie. Naval Ocean Surveillance Satellite) triple satellite formation.
The problem with aircraft is air turbulence. It’s difficult to maintain a fixed distance between two radar receivers.
Thus, China’s Divine Eagle UAV has two long connected fuselages to serve as an interferometer that detects longer-wavelength L-band electromagnetic waves.
As a reminder, an interferometer dramatically increases the resolution (or clarity) of a returned radar signal. However, it does not affect the range of the radar. Also, an interferometer requires an atomic clock to time-stamp the two sets of images (or data) and allow post-processing algorithms to refine the picture.
Question: If NASA can create an L-band interferometer on a single fuselage airplane, why did China use a double-body design?

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Answer: China needs longer range. Thus, the emitters (e.g. two L-band radars in the radomes) have to be much larger to allow for more power. This would explain the two large radomes on China’s Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV.Also, China could be using a VHF interferometer. The two long fixed-distance fuselages would allow for the transmission and reception of long-wavelength VHF signals.

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More T/R modules in bulbous radomes result in a more powerful L-band AESA radar
An L-band AESA radar is based on individual transmit/receive (T/R) modules. By increasing the number of modules in the bulbous radomes, the number of constructive interference waves has been increased. This results in increased range. Another way of expressing the increased range is to say there has been an increase in the power of the radar.
The L-band radar is more powerful, because more T/R modules have been placed in the radomes of the Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV.
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VHF wavelength starts at 1 meter and requires the length of the Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAVSince VHF wavelength is one meter and higher, very few VHF T/R modules can be placed in the radomes. Thus, due to the constraints imposed by physics, the only place to locate a VHF AESA radar with reasonable resolution is along the length of the fuselage.To achieve interferometry, it would require two fuselages at a fixed distance from each other. The Chinese Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV fulfills both requirements.
———-By the way, an atomic clock is a small box and could easily be carried on-board the Divine Eagle UAV.

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“Rubidium clocks are the most compact method of atomic time keeping. These are commonly used on satellites.”
Divine Eagle UAV is most likely an interferometer based on China’s fourth-generation airborne L-band AESA radar
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China’s Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV is probably the world’s first military airborne L-band radar interferometer.
China is an expert at L-band phased array radars. An example is the Chinese ground-based YLC-2 L-band phased array radar.
The Chinese Divine Eagle UAV should be a continuation of China’s miniaturization in airborne L-band phased array anti-stealth technology.
1st generation: KJ-200 “balance beam” AEW&C with L-band phased array radar (first flight November 2001)
2nd generation: KJ-2000 Mainring AWACS with L-band phased array radar (first flight 2003)
3rd generation: ZDK-03 AEW&C with L-band phased array radar (first flight November 2010)*
4th generation: Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV L-band interferometer (2015)
China has 15 years of experience with airborne phased array L-band radars. We expect China’s software algorithms and filters to be optimized for L-band radar interferometry.
China’s KJ-2000 AWACS and passive detector Divine Eagle L-band UAV would be a devastating anti-stealth combination
KJ2000 AWACS: Details
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According to Australia Air Power, China’s KJ-2000 AWACS uses L-band radar to search for stealth aircraft.
The distance from the KJ-2000 AWACS L-band radar emitter to the target is 470km. The distance from the target to the radar receiver on the KJ-2000 AWACS is another 470km. Thus, the total distance from the KJ-2000 AWACS L-band radar emitter to the receiver is 940km.
By using the KJ-2000 AWACS with a silent listening partner in the Divine Eagle (which has an extremely sensitive L-band interferometer), the KJ-2000 AWACS can illuminate a stealth aircraft at 840km and have the Divine Eagle pick up the signal at 100km away from the target.
By figuratively separating the receiver from the KJ-2000 AWACS and moving it much further down the field, a stealth aircraft can be detected at an extreme range of 840km by the Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV.
Divine Eagle UAV is a 10,000 T/R module L-band Interferometer
Whether you use the bus or the UAV itself as a benchmark, the height of the Divine Eagle UAV is about 1.5 meter in height.
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“By using the single deck bus in the background (probably 3.2 meters tall, like most buses of its type) as a very crude visual yardstick, a very rough comparison suggests that the Divine Eagle is about 6 meters tall….”
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The radome is usually equidistant in the vertical and horizontal directions. This means the horizontal width of the Divine Eagle UAV radome is about 1.5 meters. The Divine Eagle interferometer has a diameter of 5 radomes or 7.5 meters.
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The diameter of the Divine Eagle L-band interferometer is 7.5 meters. L-band is 0.15m. However, the transmit/receive (T/R) module of an AESA radar is built with a half-wave dipole antenna design. In the case of L-band, the half-wave of 0.15m is 0.075m.
7.5 meters / 0.075 meter per T/R module = 100 T/R modules horizontally
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An AESA radar is mostly circular in shape. The horizontal and vertical lengths are approximately equal.
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The calculation of a square 100 T/R module (horizontally) x 100 T/R module (vertically) AESA radar is a close approximation of an actual circular AESA radar.
100 T/R modules horizontally x 100 T/R modules vertically = 10,000 T/R modules in total
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Divine Eagle L-band interferometer is eight times more sensitive than F-35 X-band AESA radar.
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10,000 Divine Eagle L-band T/R module interferometer / 1,200 F-35 X-band T/R module AESA radar = Eight times greater sensitivity based on module count
Why does China’s Divine Eagle UAV have a maximum altitude of 79,000 feet?
According to Popular Science, China’s Divine Eagle UAV has a maximum altitude of 25km (or 79,000 feet).
In contrast, the US Global Hawk has a maximum altitude of only 18km (or 57,000 feet).

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Why is there a huge difference of 22,000 feet between China’s Divine Eagle and the US Global Hawk?
The most likely explanation is the two UAVs are designed for different roles.
The US Global Hawk was designed for reconnaissance. It is looking for ground targets.
The Chinese Divine Eagle UAV was designed to detect stealth fighters and bombers.
The total path length from a KJ-2000 AWACS transmitter-(to target)-(to receiver) is about 900km. By using a passive Divine Eagle UAV L-band receiver, it permits a much earlier detection of a stealth aircraft by about 200 to 300km (or 120 to 180 miles). By flying at nearly 80,000 feet, the Divine Eagle passive receiver can avoid being illuminated by the KJ-2000 AWACS L-band radar.

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Alternatively, a high-flying Divine Eagle UAV can use its UHF/VHF dual-fuselage interferometer to detect a stealth aircraft. If the Divine Eagle was flying at the same altitude as an F-22, the other fuselage would block the transmission/reception of the UHF/VHF array. By flying at nearly 80,000 feet, the Divine Eagle dual-fuselage interferometer would have an unobstructed view of a stealth aircraft.
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The Chinese KJ-2000 AWACS has a service ceiling of 42,651 feet.[1]
The American F-22 has a service ceiling of 60,000 feet.[2]
Martin Su asiawind.com
References.
1. Shaanxi KJ-2000 (Mainring) – Airborne Early Warning and Control (AWACs) – Development and Operational History, Performance Specifications and Picture Gallery
2. F-22 Raptor Specifications



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China’s Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV is probably an interferometer
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Form follows function.
Why would China build a complex double-body aircraft instead of a single large fuselage (like the Global Hawk)?
The only scientific explanation is an interferometer.
Satellites in space (where there is no air) can fly in fix formations and perform as a single larger interferometer. An example is China’s NOSS (ie. Naval Ocean Surveillance Satellite) triple satellite formation.
The problem with aircraft is air turbulence. It’s difficult to maintain a fixed distance between two radar receivers.
Thus, China’s Divine Eagle UAV has two long connected fuselages to serve as an interferometer that detects longer-wavelength L-band electromagnetic waves.
As a reminder, an interferometer dramatically increases the resolution (or clarity) of a returned radar signal. However, it does not affect the range of the radar. Also, an interferometer requires an atomic clock to time-stamp the two sets of images (or data) and allow post-processing algorithms to refine the picture.
Question: If NASA can create an L-band interferometer on a single fuselage airplane, why did China use a double-body design?

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Answer: China needs longer range. Thus, the emitters (e.g. two L-band radars in the radomes) have to be much larger to allow for more power. This would explain the two large radomes on China’s Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV.Also, China could be using a VHF interferometer. The two long fixed-distance fuselages would allow for the transmission and reception of long-wavelength VHF signals.

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More T/R modules in bulbous radomes result in a more powerful L-band AESA radar
An L-band AESA radar is based on individual transmit/receive (T/R) modules. By increasing the number of modules in the bulbous radomes, the number of constructive interference waves has been increased. This results in increased range. Another way of expressing the increased range is to say there has been an increase in the power of the radar.
The L-band radar is more powerful, because more T/R modules have been placed in the radomes of the Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV.
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VHF wavelength starts at 1 meter and requires the length of the Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAVSince VHF wavelength is one meter and higher, very few VHF T/R modules can be placed in the radomes. Thus, due to the constraints imposed by physics, the only place to locate a VHF AESA radar with reasonable resolution is along the length of the fuselage.To achieve interferometry, it would require two fuselages at a fixed distance from each other. The Chinese Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV fulfills both requirements.
———-By the way, an atomic clock is a small box and could easily be carried on-board the Divine Eagle UAV.

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“Rubidium clocks are the most compact method of atomic time keeping. These are commonly used on satellites.”
Divine Eagle UAV is most likely an interferometer based on China’s fourth-generation airborne L-band AESA radar
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China’s Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV is probably the world’s first military airborne L-band radar interferometer.
China is an expert at L-band phased array radars. An example is the Chinese ground-based YLC-2 L-band phased array radar.
The Chinese Divine Eagle UAV should be a continuation of China’s miniaturization in airborne L-band phased array anti-stealth technology.
1st generation: KJ-200 “balance beam” AEW&C with L-band phased array radar (first flight November 2001)
2nd generation: KJ-2000 Mainring AWACS with L-band phased array radar (first flight 2003)
3rd generation: ZDK-03 AEW&C with L-band phased array radar (first flight November 2010)*
4th generation: Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV L-band interferometer (2015)
China has 15 years of experience with airborne phased array L-band radars. We expect China’s software algorithms and filters to be optimized for L-band radar interferometry.
China’s KJ-2000 AWACS and passive detector Divine Eagle L-band UAV would be a devastating anti-stealth combination
KJ2000 AWACS: Details
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According to Australia Air Power, China’s KJ-2000 AWACS uses L-band radar to search for stealth aircraft.
The distance from the KJ-2000 AWACS L-band radar emitter to the target is 470km. The distance from the target to the radar receiver on the KJ-2000 AWACS is another 470km. Thus, the total distance from the KJ-2000 AWACS L-band radar emitter to the receiver is 940km.
By using the KJ-2000 AWACS with a silent listening partner in the Divine Eagle (which has an extremely sensitive L-band interferometer), the KJ-2000 AWACS can illuminate a stealth aircraft at 840km and have the Divine Eagle pick up the signal at 100km away from the target.
By figuratively separating the receiver from the KJ-2000 AWACS and moving it much further down the field, a stealth aircraft can be detected at an extreme range of 840km by the Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV.
Divine Eagle UAV is a 10,000 T/R module L-band Interferometer
Whether you use the bus or the UAV itself as a benchmark, the height of the Divine Eagle UAV is about 1.5 meter in height.
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“By using the single deck bus in the background (probably 3.2 meters tall, like most buses of its type) as a very crude visual yardstick, a very rough comparison suggests that the Divine Eagle is about 6 meters tall….”
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The radome is usually equidistant in the vertical and horizontal directions. This means the horizontal width of the Divine Eagle UAV radome is about 1.5 meters. The Divine Eagle interferometer has a diameter of 5 radomes or 7.5 meters.
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The diameter of the Divine Eagle L-band interferometer is 7.5 meters. L-band is 0.15m. However, the transmit/receive (T/R) module of an AESA radar is built with a half-wave dipole antenna design. In the case of L-band, the half-wave of 0.15m is 0.075m.
7.5 meters / 0.075 meter per T/R module = 100 T/R modules horizontally
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An AESA radar is mostly circular in shape. The horizontal and vertical lengths are approximately equal.
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The calculation of a square 100 T/R module (horizontally) x 100 T/R module (vertically) AESA radar is a close approximation of an actual circular AESA radar.
100 T/R modules horizontally x 100 T/R modules vertically = 10,000 T/R modules in total
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Divine Eagle L-band interferometer is eight times more sensitive than F-35 X-band AESA radar.
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10,000 Divine Eagle L-band T/R module interferometer / 1,200 F-35 X-band T/R module AESA radar = Eight times greater sensitivity based on module count
Why does China’s Divine Eagle UAV have a maximum altitude of 79,000 feet?
According to Popular Science, China’s Divine Eagle UAV has a maximum altitude of 25km (or 79,000 feet).
In contrast, the US Global Hawk has a maximum altitude of only 18km (or 57,000 feet).

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Why is there a huge difference of 22,000 feet between China’s Divine Eagle and the US Global Hawk?
The most likely explanation is the two UAVs are designed for different roles.
The US Global Hawk was designed for reconnaissance. It is looking for ground targets.
The Chinese Divine Eagle UAV was designed to detect stealth fighters and bombers.
The total path length from a KJ-2000 AWACS transmitter-(to target)-(to receiver) is about 900km. By using a passive Divine Eagle UAV L-band receiver, it permits a much earlier detection of a stealth aircraft by about 200 to 300km (or 120 to 180 miles). By flying at nearly 80,000 feet, the Divine Eagle passive receiver can avoid being illuminated by the KJ-2000 AWACS L-band radar.

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Alternatively, a high-flying Divine Eagle UAV can use its UHF/VHF dual-fuselage interferometer to detect a stealth aircraft. If the Divine Eagle was flying at the same altitude as an F-22, the other fuselage would block the transmission/reception of the UHF/VHF array. By flying at nearly 80,000 feet, the Divine Eagle dual-fuselage interferometer would have an unobstructed view of a stealth aircraft.
rDm3GNc.jpg

The Chinese KJ-2000 AWACS has a service ceiling of 42,651 feet.[1]
The American F-22 has a service ceiling of 60,000 feet.[2]
Martin Su asiawind.com
References.
1. Shaanxi KJ-2000 (Mainring) – Airborne Early Warning and Control (AWACs) – Development and Operational History, Performance Specifications and Picture Gallery
2. F-22 Raptor Specifications



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China's New Mysterious VLRAAM 500km Mach 6 Missile

at 25,000 meters height, the view to the horizon is 563 km ( http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm) to spot and triangulate aircraft carriers, the carriers will be earlier spotted by Chinese satellites by the time the carriers crossed the 3rd island chain. Also spotted and pin pointed by the arrays of sonar Chinese places on ocean floors.


The best part this AWAC Drone is virtually UNLIMITED flight time, via autonomous mid-air refueling.

An array of this AWAC Drone is supported another fleet of fuel carriers, in similar airframe, but carries fuel instead of radars. So an array of AWAC radar drone is maintained for days or weeks in the air flying in a protected air space. Supported by autonomous refueling fleet. Fuel tankers goes up and down to supply fuel. Radar fleet only rotated up and down for maintenance. So Chinese air space is covered 24Hrs by these. No pilots needed to go up in air.

From altitude of 25km it gets away better sight of everything than from the ground or other piloted AWAC which only gets to half this altitude, and can not fly long period due to physical human limitation.
 

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China’s Solar-Powered Drone Test-Fires Missiles in Near Space
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China recently completed a test of a solar-powered drone capable of flying at extremely high altitudes for more than half a day straight. And it can also shoot missiles.
The People's Liberation Army tested a variant of its CH-4 Rainbow drone for six days, the People's Daily reported February 12, conducting live-fire trials in extreme weather conditions. "The capacity and variety of its ordnance indicate the CH-4 can conduct effective air strikes on more targets, from longer distances with faster reactions, which lays the foundation for future models and their aligned payloads," the news outlet adds.



The drone flew for 15 hours 20 kilometers above sea level. While it remained quite far from the Karman Line 100 km above Earth, which represents the bridge between the planet's atmosphere and outer space, the aircraft was well within "near space," a non-technical term referring to regions roughly between 18 and 100 km above ground.
The plane is designed to reach altitudes of 65 km and fly for weeks on end, Popular Science reported last June.
This was the first time the latest variant of CH-4 has fired weapons, according to Xinhua. Developers at China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) involved in the CH-4 project insist the plane has better "basic performance" than the MQ-1 Predator, Xinhua noted.
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The plane can shoot 50-kilogram cluster bombs and an assortment of guided missiles, Asia Times noted. Planes that release weapons at such heights are susceptible to unexpected weather events interfering with a weapon's flight pattern and are also vulnerable to enemies who might use electronic jamming methods to throw off their guided munitions. According to Asia Times, developers believe they will be able to overcome these obstacles.
Beijing has been able to produce drones at a much cheaper cost than the US, which has helped the Chinese drone export market, as has the United States' reputation as stingy about selling weaponized drones. China's Wing Loong reconnaissance and strike unmanned planes can be produced for about $5 million versus the roughly $100 million price tag for a US-made unmanned aerial system, IHS Markit analyst Ben Moores recently told Reuters.

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China just flew a 130-foot, solar-powered drone designed to stay in the air for months
The CH-T4 has already set a national flight record.
By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer June 7, 2017



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CH-T4
While it has a wingspan of over 130 feet, the CH-T4 only weighs about 880 pounds—with payload.
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Meet China's huge solar-powered drone, a 130-foot-wide machine designed to fly at more than 65,000 feet, for days on end. How? A super lightweight body and renewable energy tech that can power all eight of its electrical propellers.
Oh, and it can reach speeds up to 125 miles per hour.

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The CH-T4 is propelled by eight electrical propellers, allowing it to reach speeds of about 125 miles per hour and a height of over 65,000 feet.
China Daily
The "Caihong-T 4" (CH-T4), built by the Chinese Academy of Aerospace Aerodynamics (CAAA), has a double-bodied fuselage, cranked wing, and twin tail. It's got a wingspan of 40 meters—or about 130 feet, which means its wider than a Boeing 737 jetliner. Despite the large size, it weighs between 880 and 1,100 pounds. It owes its this lightness to its carbon fiber and plastic components.

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NEAR SPACE
The CH-T4, flying 12 miles up into the atmosphere, has line-of-sight radio and visual coverage over 400,000 square miles—an area the size of Egypt.
China Daily

In size and flight altitude, that's second place to only the NASA Helios Prototype, another solar-powered flying wing, which boasts a 246-foot wingspan, and a elevation of 96,863 feet. CAAA scientists told the China Daily that the CH-T4 has a flight time design goal of several months, needing only minimal human supervision. Flying up to 65,000 feet means that the CH-T4 will fly above almost all cloud cover, so it will enjoy almost unlimited access to sunlight during its operations (during night, the CH-T4 will draw from onboard batteries to power its motors).

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A BIG START
The CH-T4 can use its high altitude and long endurance for a variety of long-term surveillance and communications missions.
China Daily
China's long-duration drone projects parallel work at both DARPA and tech companies like Facebook. For militaries, tech like this provides an excellent platform for surveillance missions against military and terrorist targets. It can utilize its high flight ceiling to maintain line-of-sight contact with over 400,000 square miles of ground and water. That's about the size of Egypt. For both militaries and tech firms, covering so much territory makes it an excellent data relay and communications node. This will allow the drone to replace or back up satellite communications, maintain coverage between distant aircraft and ships, or even provide broadband to rural Chinese households.
While conversations around drone usage are often limited to their roles as potential missile-toting killers and parcel-delivering quadcopters, some of the most important drones of the future may be those like the Caihong X and Helios Prototype, unseen and high up, gathering data day in and day out.
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The CH-T4 can use its high altitude and long endurance for a variety of long-term surveillance and communications missions.


This one will still be drastically enhanced and improved. As it is, to wide requiring big runway. Hard to land / take off in extreme weather, especially icing wings. As it is now, it is an engineering prototype to study and prove their technologies. The wing I suspect will be less wide and more long, or become letter "H" shaped.

It is a communication data-link relay & passive radar & IR optical surveillance drone. Best part about it needs no fuel, quite stealthy. Can stay up so high for months.
 

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This one will still be drastically enhanced and improved. As it is, to wide requiring big runway. Hard to land / take off in extreme weather, especially icing wings. As it is now, it is an engineering prototype to study and prove their technologies. The wing I suspect will be less wide and more long, or become letter "H" shaped.

It is a communication data-link relay & passive radar & IR optical surveillance drone. Best part about it needs no fuel, quite stealthy. Can stay up so high for months.


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China claims to have successfully tested its first hypersonic aircraft

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/07/china/china-hypersonic-aircraft-intl/index.html

(CNN)China claims to have successfully tested its first hypersonic aircraft, a big step forward in aerospace technology that could intensify pressure on the US military.
The China Academy of Aerospace Aerodynamics (CAAA), based in Beijing and part of the state-owned China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation, conducted the first test of the "Starry Sky-2" aircraft last Friday.
Hypersonic vehicles are not simply high-speed -- they travel at least at five times the speed of sound. That's fast enough to travel across the US in around 30 minutes.
According to a CAAA statement released Monday, the Starry Sky-2 reached a top speed of Mach 6 -- six times the speed of sound, or 4,563 miles (7,344 kilometers) per hour.
The test was a "complete success," claimed CAAA, which posted photos of the test launch on social media platform WeChat. "The Starry Sky-2 flight test project was strongly innovative and technically difficult, confronting a number of cutting-edge international technical challenges."
The CAAA did not indicate what the new aircraft or technology would be used for, other than to say they hoped to continue contributing to China's aerospace industry.
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The Starry Sky-2, China's first successfully tested hypersonic aircraft.
Militaries around the world have been racing for years to develop hypersonic weapons. In 2015, the US Air Force announced their goal to develop a hypersonic weapon by 2023. Just this year, Russia claimed to have successfully tested its first hypersonic missiles, and released videos of the weapons in July.
Hypersonic missiles fly into space after launch, but then come down and fly at high speeds on a flight path similar to an airplane. Their lower trajectory make them more difficult for defense satellites and radars to detect.


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China’s hypersonic aircraft, Starry Sky-2, could be used to carry nuclear missiles at six times the speed of sound

First test flight of experimental design, which rides its own shock waves, deemed a ‘huge success’




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This light tank don't look very smart but performance in combat is powerful, it is made to be airborne parachuted.

这样才带劲!中俄多款空降战车角逐竞速飙到飞起

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The Chinese light tanks can tiew and kann and fucked the shit out of the Terrexes.

Oppss..... even without the light tanks, Chinese already fucked and tiewed and kanned the shit out of the Terrexes orledi hor!
 

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China bomb 20 fuselage parts suspected exposure: S curved exhaust pipe delivery body huge
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At the end of July, in the official media of Xi'an Aircraft Industry Co., the first time the disclosure of the bombing 20 trial information was inspiring. According to the report, "A sample of the S-exhaust pipe tail section of a project was successfully delivered to a flying hospital! "," a project entered the project phase, and the sheet metal factory undertook the development of the S-bend exhaust pipe tail section. Due to the complicated structure, large body shape, high molding requirements of the inner cavity of the liner, and the lack of simple rigidity of the tooling, the clamp was installed. And welding brings a very big challenge. During the construction of more than one month, from the morning to the early morning of the next day, the high-precision clamping and welding of large-scale thin-walled components was realized in the continuous improvement, and the first engineering application of laser welding technology in the company was realized. As we all know, Xi'an Aircraft Industry Co., Ltd. is a large-scale military transport aircraft in China, a civilian regional passenger aircraft, a 6K "God of War" quasi-strategic bomber, and a development manufacturer of the "Flying Leopard" sniper bomber. In recent years, it has completed the Shaanxi Aircraft Industry Corporation. The merger, the production of the large tactical transport aircraft of the Yun 8, Yun 9 also entered the company, can be said to be one of the largest aircraft manufacturing enterprises in the country.
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In particular, the successful finalization of Yun 20 and H-6K, as well as the delivery of troops in batches, greatly increased the ambition of the Chinese people and rounded up the dream of a large aircraft of the Chinese people, greatly enhancing the national defense strength. However, in the face of the ever-changing international situation, the performance of China's long-range bombers is still somewhat inadequate. After the 6K bomber in the former Soviet Union was improved, it can be said that the performance of the aircraft has been greatly improved, and the flight distance has also increased significantly. It can strike the enemy's important target long-range launch cruise missiles. After the installation of the aerial refueling device, the flight distance has been further improved, which can be regarded as a quasi-strategic bomber. However, objectively speaking, the performance of the 6K is not far from the international advanced level. Russia's most advanced Tu-160 intercontinental bomber, with its geographical advantage, can carry out airborne nuclear strikes against enemy countries, and can do supersonic penetration, avoid enemy missiles and aircraft interception, and plan to develop Russian next-generation strategic bombers. "PAD-DA", Tupolev recently demonstrated the first full-size physical model of the bomber. The aircraft uses a flying wing layout and is scheduled to be equipped with the Russian Air Force around 2025.
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At present, the most advanced active bomber is the American B-2 stealth bomber. It is the first to adopt a high subsonic flying wing layout, which greatly reduces the radar cross-sectional area. It is said that this 170-ton behemoth is only 0.1 square meters on the radar. Equivalent to the size of a bird. As the largest secret project in the United States from the 1970s to the 1980s, the Air Force was completed in 1978, the first flight in July 1989, and the development work was completed in 1993, and the outside world knew almost nothing about it. The bomber "has a common nuclear". As a "lost man", he does not need to cover his own fighters. He has participated in many US war operations and carried out volley strikes on important targets. He has not been shot down yet. After the successful development of Yun 20 in China, it can be said that it is no difficulty to develop a large long-range bomber similar to the US B-52. However, this type of bomber has obviously fallen behind the times and cannot break through the enemy's supersonic fighters and long-range air defense missiles. The line of defense is unable to accurately attack the important target of the enemy by volley "scalpel" and is not worth developing. The development of a similar 160 intercontinental bomber, facing the same old problems, can not develop a long-term supersonic flight of the bomber in a short period of time, and because of the rapid progress of air defense missiles, unless the aircraft speed exceeds 5 times the speed of sound, otherwise It is also difficult to break through similar US Standard 6 missiles.
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Interception of the Russian S400 new generation of long-range air defense missiles. Therefore, the development of a stealth bomber similar to the B-2 wing configuration is the only correct choice. China's official media and public information have repeatedly revealed the clues of the next generation of bombers. In the Air Force, the commander of the Air Force, Ma Xiaotian, publicly declared in 2016 that China's current long-range strike capability has greatly improved. "There will be even greater improvements in the future. We are now developing a new generation of long-range bombers, which you will see in the future." And on May 9th, 2018, in the image propaganda film of Xifei Company, one was blindfolded. The thick cloth flying wing shape new machine is mysteriously unveiled, making people full of embarrassment. Military netizens will tie it with 歼-20, -20, and -20, called H-20. The earliest public information revealing the mysterious veil of Xifei Hun 20 is a long-range bomber structural optimization paper published by Nanjing University. According to the paper, after optimization, the maximum range of a long-range flying-wing bomber is 16,000 kilometers. Supported by the Institute (603, the former Xi'an Aircraft Design Institute) and Shenyang 601 (Shenyang Aircraft Design Institute).
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The second public report is about the award-winning information about the "Sword" flying wing drone. According to the article, the key technology for the breakthrough of the "Lijian" flying-wing UAV will be directly applied to the development of a key model of the country, which will bring economic benefits of tens of billions of dollars and output value of hundreds of billions of yuan. The third public report was on the website of the AVIC Aerodynamics Research Institute, and a schematic diagram of the inlet design of a new type of bomber appeared. From the figure, the aircraft adopts a flying wing layout with its intake port at the shoulder of the body. The power system consists of two main engines and an auxiliary power unit for generating electricity. The two exhaust ports on one side of the wing are in a S-bend layout. Although the figure does not give a specific plan for the design of the whole machine, it can be judged from the details exposed in the figure that the machine is a new type of bomber similar to the B-2 stealth bomber.
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In the recent official news, "A national project, Xifei trial production of a large S-shaped exhaust pipe tail section prototype, and successfully delivered to a flying theater" message can be said to be a real hammer landing, proof boom - 20 prototypes are in the process of being developed. Judging from the time disclosed in the article, H-20 will be no later than 2014, and it will be less than one year after the successful first flight of Yun-20. Since the official establishment date of the Yun-20 country is 2007, it is inferred that the official first flight time of the NB-20 will be around 2020. As the international and domestic situation becomes more and more tense, it is likely to meet with you more in advance. This is The most critical moments convey important information to the world. (Author's signature: Bladed Military)

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-08-08/doc-ihhkuskt5832409.shtml

中国轰20机身部件疑曝光:S弯排气管交付体形巨大

中国轰20机身部件疑曝光:S弯排气管交付体形巨大



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7月底,在西安飞机工业公司的官方媒体中,首次披露了轰20的试制信息,让人振奋不已。该报道称,““某项目S弯排气管尾段样件顺利交付一飞院!”,”某项目进入立项阶段,钣金构件厂承担S弯排气管尾段的研制工作,由于结构复杂、体形硕大、内胆内腔的成型要求高,加之工装简易刚性不足,给钳装和焊接带来了非常大的挑战。一个多月的施工过程中,从早晨至次日凌晨, 最终在不断改进中实现了大型薄壁构件的高精度钳装与焊接,实现了激光焊接工艺技术在公司的首次工程化应用。”众所周知,西安飞机工业公司是我国大型的军用运输机,民用支线客机,轰6K“战神”准战略轰炸机,“飞豹”歼击轰炸机的研制生产厂家,近几年来,又完成了对陕西飞机工业公司的合并,对运8,运9大型战术运输机的生产也揽入旗下,可以说是全国数一数二的大型飞机制造企业。
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S弯隐身喷管 serpentine stealth nozzle
特别是运20和轰6K的成功定型,以及成批交付部队,大涨了国人志气,圆了国人的大飞机梦,大大增强了国防实力。但是,在风云变幻的国际形势面前,我国的远程轰炸机性能还稍嫌不足,轰6K在原苏联的图16轰炸机做了脱胎换骨的改进后,可以说是飞机性能有重大提高,飞行距离也大幅增加,可对敌重要目标远距发射巡航导弹进行打击。在加装空中加油装置后,飞行距离又有进一步提高,可以算得上是准战略轰炸机了。但是,客观的讲,轰6K的性能离国际先进水平还有不小的距离。俄罗斯最先进的图-160洲际轰炸机,凭借地理优势,可对敌国跨洲进行空中核打击,并能做超音速突防,避开敌方导弹和飞机的拦截,并计划研制俄罗斯下一代战略轰炸机“PAD-DA“,图波列夫公司于近期展示了这款轰炸机的首架全尺寸实物模型,该机采用飞翼布局,计划在2025年左右装备俄空天军。
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目前,最先进的现役轰炸机是美国的B-2隐形轰炸机,它最先采用高亚音速飞翼布局,大大降低了雷达截面积,据称这个170吨的庞然大物在雷达上仅为0.1平方米,相当于一只飞鸟大小。作为美国的70到80年代最大的保密工程,在1978年完成空军立项,1989年7月首飞,1993年完成研制工作,而外界对其细节几乎一无所知。该轰炸机”核常兼备”,作为”独行侠”不需己方战斗机掩护,多次参加美国的战争行动,进行对重要目标的凌空精确打击,目前还未被击落一架。我国在运20研制成功后,可以说研制类似美国B-52的大型远程轰炸机已没有丝毫难度,但这种类型轰炸机已明显落后于时代,根本无法突破敌方的超音速战斗机和远程防空导弹的防线,无法对敌重要目标进行凌空“手术刀”精确打击,不值得发展。而研制类似图160洲际轰炸机,又面临同样的老大难问题,短时间内无法研制出可让轰炸机长时间超音速飞行的发动机,且由于防空导弹的飞速进步,除非飞机速度突破5倍音速,否则同样难以突破类似美国标准6导弹。
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俄罗斯S400新一代远程防空导弹的拦截。因此,研制类似B-2飞翼构型的隐形轰炸机是唯一正确的选择。我国官方媒体及公开资料皆多次披露下一代轰炸机的蛛丝马迹,在空军方面,上任空军司令员马晓天在2016年公开宣称:我国现在的远程打击能力比过去有了很大的提高。“将来还会有更大提高,我们现在发展新一代的远程轰炸机,将来你会看到的。”而在今年2018年5月9日,西飞公司拍摄的形象宣传片中,一架蒙着厚布的飞翼造型新机神秘亮相,让人满怀憧憬。军事网友将它与歼-20,运-20,直-20并列,称之为轰-20。而最早揭开西飞轰20神秘面纱的公开资料是某南京大学发表的远程轰炸机结构优化论文,该论文称,经优化后,某远程飞翼轰炸机最大航程为16000公里,该论文得到西安一飞院(603所,即原西安飞机设计研究所)和沈阳601所(沈阳飞机设计研究所)的支持。
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第二个公开报道是关于“利剑”飞翼无人机的获奖信息。该文称,“利剑”飞翼无人机被突破的关键技术将直接应用于国家某重点型号研制,将带来数百亿以上的经济效益,数千亿元的产值。第三个公开报道是在中航工业空气动力研究院的网站上,赫然出现了一种新型轰炸机的进气道设计示意图。从图上来看,该机采用飞翼式布局,其进气道位于机体肩部,动力系统包括两台主发动机和一台用于发电的辅助动力机组。一侧机翼的两个排气口采用S弯布局。尽管该图没有给出整机设计的具体方案,但从图中暴露的细节可以判断,该机是一款类似B-2隐身轰炸机的新型轰炸机。
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而最近出现的官方消息中,”某国家立项项目,西飞试制成功体形硕大的S弯排气管尾段样件,并顺利交付一飞院的”消息可以说是实锤落地,证明轰-20样机正在加紧研制中。从该文披露的时间来看,轰-20最迟不晚于2014年立项,即运-20成功首飞不到一年之后。由于运-20国家正式立项时间为2007年,按此推断,那轰-20正式首飞时间为2020年前后,随着国际国内形势的日益紧张,很可能会更加提前与大家见面,这是在最关键时刻给世界传递重要信息。(作者署名:利刃军事)
 
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