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one-time highflux is now lowflux - may go belowflux

Hangover

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Hyflux founder a malaysian refugee.

Internal memos from banks remarked that they will not increase exposure as long as Olivia is running the company.

Singapore international water weak
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SNTCK

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Will Hyflux decide to file for bankruptcy ?

Not sure how much I can get back from my preference share.
 

Hangover

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There are persistent rumour that some creditor banks (likely Maybank and OCBC) disturbed Hyflux's asset sales (there are interested buyers for Tuaspring), it explains why Hyflux applied for court injunction. If Hyflux can sell Tuaspring and some other assets, they are fine. The company collapsed because they got too much interests to pay. However, this company got a lot of good infrastructure assets globally* and they are going to run their second power plants in Singapore with Mitsubishi. All these are worth a lot. The creditor banks buay song that that Olivia committed to pay off their preference shareholders ASAP after asset sales.


*Source: "the firm may actually have a better chance of selling its other assets such as the 30% residual stake in the SingSpring desalination plant, 25% stake in the TusWater project, 85% stake in the Qurayyat IWPP, which have more favourable prospects."

https://sbr.com.sg/energy-offshore/...lux-speeds-asset-sale-amidst-liquidity-crunch



Olivia opted for the most crazy move, XD or XI for perpetual securities has been recorded but they will not pay coupons. This destroys the company completely. No listed company in my memory had forsaken payments after XD. Nobody will lend them money anymore. This hints that there is going to be a Change-Of-Control event soon. Someone reputable will take a controlling stake in Hyflux. In this way, Hyflux will be able to enjoy low rates of financing in future, under a new reputable owner (likely China or Singapore govt-related). Please note that the Japanese and Middle East buyers cited in 2017 are just interested in Hyflux's asset, not ownership**.


**Source: Foreign buyers eye Hyflux water plant
https://www.straitstimes.com/business/foreign-buyers-eye-hyflux-water-plant


(The above assumptions are made, based on Olivia being good-hearted and trying her best to return the principal to Hyflux investors)
 

Scrooball (clone)

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Hyflux’s net debt surged to 165 times earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization as of March 31, from about 32 times at the end of last year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Net debt is 165 times earnings and that is before any taxes / expenses. Wow.... this business is terminally ill.

I recommend a merciful euthanasia procedure!
 

Hangover

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Net debt is 165 times earnings and that is before any taxes / expenses. Wow.... this business is terminally ill.

I recommend a merciful euthanasia procedure!

It's because the base number is too small to be meaningful.
Eg. you owe $100
You made $5, your Net Debt-Earnings ratio is 20x
You made $1, you Net Debt-Earnings ratio is 100x
 

Scrooball (clone)

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It's because the base number is too small to be meaningful.
Eg. you owe $100
You made $5, your Net Debt-Earnings ratio is 20x
You made $1, you Net Debt-Earnings ratio is 100x

Now typically a high debt ratio doesn't mean it's definitely dead. Because if u look at business models such as Netflix, it doesn't matter. I just don't see how Hyflux is able to be so scalable. Their water plants are highly capital intensive. The only way out is for them to have worthy patents that are worth licensing away to.
 

Truth_Hurts

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To bee honest. This company has huge potential and it's dealing in power and blue gold...needs not wants and it's not doing well? What a load of crock...just shows women have no business being out of the kitchen
 

no_faith

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Bail out by govt?
No investigation on company official?
Or govt set up a dummy co and buyover hyflux?
 

Hangover

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Bail out by govt?
No investigation on company official?
Or govt set up a dummy co and buyover hyflux?

China loves to buy Hyflux, Hyflux takes care of 20-25% of our water supply and they will have two power plants Tuaspring and Tuas WTE in their local portfolio.
 

Hangover

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To bee honest. This company has huge potential and it's dealing in power and blue gold...needs not wants and it's not doing well? What a load of crock...just shows women have no business being out of the kitchen

Hyflux pays interests until broke.
 

SNTCK

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To bee honest. This company has huge potential and it's dealing in power and blue gold...needs not wants and it's not doing well? What a load of crock...just shows women have no business being out of the kitchen
She didn’t know how to manage the company.
Better resign!
 

bobby

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I wonder how much money Temasek pumps into Hyflux Ltd...

Temasek's Stake in Hyflux is in:

SingSpring
Hyflux disposed 70% stake in SingSpring to Temasek Holdings Ltd.
Temasek formed a water asset trust called CitySpring Infrastructure Trust with assets consisting SingSpring and other water assets it holds.
 
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