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[Thick Face Black Heart]

Does OBOR serve the dual objective of getting Asian nations to rally around china and abandon the TPP which is castrated to begin with now that the US has pulled out?

Clearly OBOR is a way of consolidating chinese power at a time when the US is turning inwards and moving to become an insular superpower. It is also a way of china to reduce its reliance on US controlled sea lines and in the long run make US geopolitical dominance of the Pacific less of a problem. Good for allies of China and extremely bad for allies of the US like Singapore

 

[zhihau]

PRC wouldn't be bothered with Sinkiestan. The language barrier is no longer an issue for the PRC Chinese...

 

[frenchbriefs]

Thank God China and USA are at odds with each other otherwise we are fucked.imagine a world run by this duopoly.wah piang,imagine a big fat white KKK thermobaric cock banging us from behind,and a small eggroll chopstick dimsum dick giving us custard egg tart facial.if only sinkieland played her cards right like LKY did we could still have been a emissary between China and us,and played each side off each other.instead lhl deep throated amerikkk too hard and choked on them balls.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

PRC wouldn't be bothered with Sinkiestan. The language barrier is no longer an issue for the PRC Chinese...

Singapore is being punished over the south china sea issue. Longer term we hold no strategic value to china.

 

[Dark Knight]

With this project, China will likely to be the biggest investor in Asia for the next few years.
Unfortunately Sillypore will not directly benefit from it when this project rolls out.
Sillypore will then try to seek partnership with other Asia countries in order to get a "little bit share" of this huge pie.
One of China's main purpose is to cut Sillypore out from the maritime and logistics industry.
With railways and ports being built in various parts of SE Asia, Sillypore will not longer has much strategic geographical advantage when it comes to shipping.
MNCs can easily relocate to Johor, manufacturing and assembly line can be setup in those less developed countries easily.
Sillypore will end up being like another Hong Kong with only banking and finance as the main industry to sustain it's economy.

 

[scroobal]

I don't think it requires the Asian countries to abandon or move away from any existing agreement. China is doing what all super powers do - create a near geography of reliant and dependent countries. US, UK, France and much of old Europe were doing that with grants, aids and soft loans for years. Though these are now managed more carefully due to movements within their country to stop exploitation.

China's previous approach of engaging the lower third of 3rd countries particularly the African countries have delivered mixed results with considerable backlash from the local population. Besides grabbing Zambia copper mines, the rest have held on.

They have realised that after the South China Sea issue, Asia is where they have to operate in. To date Pakistan and Sri Lanka have become completely beholden to China as a result of large loans which both countries cannot repay. In a matter of weeks and months, they will takeover an entire port which they built with loans provided by them. There is no traffic to the port and the Sri Lankans cannot repay and they will therefore take a majority stake. It will become an excellent and their first naval base outside of China making them a true blue water navy.

So now they have an excellent land route into Europe thru Pakistan and into the Mediterranean via Sri Lanka.

The question that has to be asked is why the Sri Lankans built a massive port that has no traffic while the current port is capable of handling traffic. And we all know why Najib dropped his pants and went to China. He too needed to replace the stolen funds from the treasury.

Does OBOR serve the dual objective of getting Asian nations to rally around china and abandon the TPP which is castrated to begin with now that the US has pulled out?

Clearly OBOR is a way of consolidating chinese power at a time when the US is turning inwards and moving to become an insular superpower. It is also a way of china to reduce its reliance on US controlled sea lines and in the long run make US geopolitical dominance of the Pacific less of a problem. Good for allies of China and extremely bad for allies of the US like Singapore

 

[ckmpd]

Does OBOR serve the dual objective of getting Asian nations to rally around china and abandon the TPP which is castrated to begin with now that the US has pulled out?

Clearly OBOR is a way of consolidating chinese power at a time when the US is turning inwards and moving to become an insular superpower. It is also a way of china to reduce its reliance on US controlled sea lines and in the long run make US geopolitical dominance of the Pacific less of a problem. Good for allies of China and extremely bad for allies of the US like Singapore

Bad for S Korea, Japan, Singapore and Australia. China is trying to isolate them. LJL punted on the wrong horse. Singapore will pay dearly for LHL's mistake

 

[hairylee]

Whatever China's intention they have provided solid infrastructure developments to the countries concerned especially in Africa. The Europeans had been there much earlier and see what they have provided for the Africans besides enslavering them and looting their natural resources.