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Post subject: On National Service: The Hypocrisy of Tony Tan
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[TD="colspan: 2"] On National Service: The Hypocrisy of Tony Tan
The blatant hypocrisy of Tony Tan...
His son serving his remaining two years in a non-uniformed role as researcher in DMERI does not qualify as NS.
One of the criteria of disruption for an NSF seeking disruption is that he must show potential to be an officer. To this end, the disrupted personel will return and is expected to complete OCS from where he last stopped his training before his disruption from NS.
It begs the question as to why Patrick Tan did not complete the remaining 6 months of his OCS training. This is since the potential to be an officer is one prerequisite for disruption. And with that, the expectation is that you should continue with OCS training after returning from studies and not merely sail into a non-uniformed and physically non-onerous job.
Tony Tan owes a reponsibility to all past, present and future National Servicemen and their parents to show how his son's treatment is, in his own words used 15 years ago in Perth, "fair" and "equitable".
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"KNOW WHAT NS REQUIREMENTS ARE BEFORE MIGRATING".
147th Prostitute Press
21 October 1996
IF YOU plan to emigrate from Singapore, please familiarise yourself with the national-service requirements of your sons.
Deputy Prime Minister Tony Tan made this appeal in response to a question from the floor during a dinner hosted by the Temasek Club here on Saturday.
A member of the 200-strong club, which is made up of Singaporeans and former citizens who live here, asked about national service for Singaporean boys who have emigrated here with their families.
The minister said he appreciated their concerns, but "national service is, we believe, fundamental to Singapore's survival".
If the boys left the country before they reached 11 years of age, they could renounce their citizenship when they turned 21 and could visit Singapore as a foreigner.
If they left after the age of 11, they would have to return to Singapore later for national service of between two and 2-1/2 years.
Dr Tan said: "We take the view that they have enjoyed some of the benefits of living in Singapore, and so have to fulfil their NS responsibilities before they can renounce their citizenship."
He added: "Singapore does not recognise the system of dual citizenship.
"Children who take up Australian citizenship are considered to be still Singaporean citizens and have to fulfill their NS responsibilities."
That is a principle which is difficult for the Defence Ministry to compromise, and the ministry is standing firm on that, he stressed.
"In fact, we have received representations from various government ministries of our own to say that, because of our strictness in applying this policy, we are denying re-entry into Singapore of many talented Singaporeans who can benefit our country," he disclosed.
The rationale, however, is: "The only way we can operate our NS system and have the support of Singaporeans is when everybody feels that our system, unlike those in some other countries, is fair, is applied equitably and no one liable for NS is allowed not to serve."
To another question relating to business opportunities, Dr Tan said that the expertise of many Australian companies could be supported by the capital and range of contacts of Singapore enterprises.
That would make for successful joint ventures in the booming economies of South-east Asia and East Asia.
A Temasek Club member asked for a Singapore consular office to be opened in Perth to help the thousands of Singaporeans who live here with passport matters and business links.
Dr Tan replied that the prospects were good given the growing investments of Singapore companies in Perth and Western Australia.
Dr Tan arrived in Perth on Friday for a seven-day introductory visit to Australia as Singapore's Defence Minister.
He and his delegation left here yesterday for Canberra where today they will call on Australian Prime Minister John Howard and Defence Minister Ian McLachlan.
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Mindef changes NS deferment rule for medical studies overseas
147th Prostitute Press
3 April 1991
MINDEF has amended its rules granting disruption to national servicemen taking up overseas medical studies.
Previously, those taking up such studies were selectively disrupted from their national service after six months.
Now, they are subject to the same rules as those going overseas for all other courses of studies, under which NS men enlisted in December will first serve a minimum of 24 months before being eligible for disruption.
Those enlisted last month will serve 21 months and complete their full-time liability when they return.
But Mindef will continue to grant selective early disruption after six months to NS men wishing to study medicine at the National University of Singapore.
The new rule will affect the batch of students sitting for their GCE A-level examinations this year.
These details were announced yesterday by Mindef's director of manpower, Mr Chan Heng Loon.
He said that previously, Mindef had allowed a limited number to disrupt national service after six months to study medicine abroad.
Since 1986, between 60 and 100 medical students a year were successful.
They were selected based on their military performance during the six months and their potential to be officers, said Mr Chan.
But dozens of cases yearly were not chosen, he added.
"This caused a great deal of disappointment to the students and their parents as well as inconvenience to their universities," he said.
He added: "Some of these students had to turn up personally at the institutions for interviews. Can you imagine the situation when dozens of them, after spending so much time and resources getting places, are then told they can't go?"
Although NUS as a matter of policy reserves places for qualified NS men, foreign universities require them to reapply for places.
Said Mr Chan: "Mindef reminds all national servicemen applying for overseas courses that it makes no exceptions to the rules for early disruption."
The SAF, he said, will meet its need for about 60 national service doctors a
year from the pool of local graduates.
Yesterday, he also briefed principals or representatives of junior colleges and pre- university centres. [/TD]
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:35 am
Post subject: On National Service: The Hypocrisy of Tony Tan
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The blatant hypocrisy of Tony Tan...
His son serving his remaining two years in a non-uniformed role as researcher in DMERI does not qualify as NS.
One of the criteria of disruption for an NSF seeking disruption is that he must show potential to be an officer. To this end, the disrupted personel will return and is expected to complete OCS from where he last stopped his training before his disruption from NS.
It begs the question as to why Patrick Tan did not complete the remaining 6 months of his OCS training. This is since the potential to be an officer is one prerequisite for disruption. And with that, the expectation is that you should continue with OCS training after returning from studies and not merely sail into a non-uniformed and physically non-onerous job.
Tony Tan owes a reponsibility to all past, present and future National Servicemen and their parents to show how his son's treatment is, in his own words used 15 years ago in Perth, "fair" and "equitable".
******************
"KNOW WHAT NS REQUIREMENTS ARE BEFORE MIGRATING".
147th Prostitute Press
21 October 1996
IF YOU plan to emigrate from Singapore, please familiarise yourself with the national-service requirements of your sons.
Deputy Prime Minister Tony Tan made this appeal in response to a question from the floor during a dinner hosted by the Temasek Club here on Saturday.
A member of the 200-strong club, which is made up of Singaporeans and former citizens who live here, asked about national service for Singaporean boys who have emigrated here with their families.
The minister said he appreciated their concerns, but "national service is, we believe, fundamental to Singapore's survival".
If the boys left the country before they reached 11 years of age, they could renounce their citizenship when they turned 21 and could visit Singapore as a foreigner.
If they left after the age of 11, they would have to return to Singapore later for national service of between two and 2-1/2 years.
Dr Tan said: "We take the view that they have enjoyed some of the benefits of living in Singapore, and so have to fulfil their NS responsibilities before they can renounce their citizenship."
He added: "Singapore does not recognise the system of dual citizenship.
"Children who take up Australian citizenship are considered to be still Singaporean citizens and have to fulfill their NS responsibilities."
That is a principle which is difficult for the Defence Ministry to compromise, and the ministry is standing firm on that, he stressed.
"In fact, we have received representations from various government ministries of our own to say that, because of our strictness in applying this policy, we are denying re-entry into Singapore of many talented Singaporeans who can benefit our country," he disclosed.
The rationale, however, is: "The only way we can operate our NS system and have the support of Singaporeans is when everybody feels that our system, unlike those in some other countries, is fair, is applied equitably and no one liable for NS is allowed not to serve."
To another question relating to business opportunities, Dr Tan said that the expertise of many Australian companies could be supported by the capital and range of contacts of Singapore enterprises.
That would make for successful joint ventures in the booming economies of South-east Asia and East Asia.
A Temasek Club member asked for a Singapore consular office to be opened in Perth to help the thousands of Singaporeans who live here with passport matters and business links.
Dr Tan replied that the prospects were good given the growing investments of Singapore companies in Perth and Western Australia.
Dr Tan arrived in Perth on Friday for a seven-day introductory visit to Australia as Singapore's Defence Minister.
He and his delegation left here yesterday for Canberra where today they will call on Australian Prime Minister John Howard and Defence Minister Ian McLachlan.
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Mindef changes NS deferment rule for medical studies overseas
147th Prostitute Press
3 April 1991
MINDEF has amended its rules granting disruption to national servicemen taking up overseas medical studies.
Previously, those taking up such studies were selectively disrupted from their national service after six months.
Now, they are subject to the same rules as those going overseas for all other courses of studies, under which NS men enlisted in December will first serve a minimum of 24 months before being eligible for disruption.
Those enlisted last month will serve 21 months and complete their full-time liability when they return.
But Mindef will continue to grant selective early disruption after six months to NS men wishing to study medicine at the National University of Singapore.
The new rule will affect the batch of students sitting for their GCE A-level examinations this year.
These details were announced yesterday by Mindef's director of manpower, Mr Chan Heng Loon.
He said that previously, Mindef had allowed a limited number to disrupt national service after six months to study medicine abroad.
Since 1986, between 60 and 100 medical students a year were successful.
They were selected based on their military performance during the six months and their potential to be officers, said Mr Chan.
But dozens of cases yearly were not chosen, he added.
"This caused a great deal of disappointment to the students and their parents as well as inconvenience to their universities," he said.
He added: "Some of these students had to turn up personally at the institutions for interviews. Can you imagine the situation when dozens of them, after spending so much time and resources getting places, are then told they can't go?"
Although NUS as a matter of policy reserves places for qualified NS men, foreign universities require them to reapply for places.
Said Mr Chan: "Mindef reminds all national servicemen applying for overseas courses that it makes no exceptions to the rules for early disruption."
The SAF, he said, will meet its need for about 60 national service doctors a
year from the pool of local graduates.
Yesterday, he also briefed principals or representatives of junior colleges and pre- university centres. [/TD]
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