Oh Oh!, China Navy coming nearer to us! Just 80km from Malaysia east coast.

[enterprise2]

Today's papers - In an unprecedented show of force, a naval task force including four Chines warships appeared at the farthest reaches of China's territorial claims in the South China Sea, with their crew pledging to 'maintain national sovereignty."...

If there is a clash, Singapore may be drawn into it. Better welcome more US navy personnel to counterbalance!!

 

[syed putra]

it would be nice if we know the exact location. anyway. i think they have the right of passage.

 

[Tuayapeh]

yeah Tuayapeh thinks that Singapore reminds him of the typical fence sitter kaypoh who tries to keh kiang and play mediator and ends up getting hammered by both if dont be careful...

 

[lianbeng]

lianbeng noted they are guarding the South China Sea lah not so interested in the Sabah-Phil internal fight! they are also flexing muscles at the US Navy lah! lai lah! pak lah! kia lu ah!

 

[Tuayapeh]

Tuayapeh knows that the China also quite clever already.... everything learn and copy from the americans....

like for example...nothing like a good war to galvanise the nationalist fervour of the country, get rid of the lower end useless population trash by getting them killed, and stirring up economic activity ...

China will probably wanna fight a war but only when their economy is near collapse.....

 

[longbow]

In any negotiation must stake claim first so that there is something to negotiate.

Fact of matter is that China is going to be giant gorrilla (economy wise) in this part of the world and they know that. US can have the strongest military but that is only useful in a shooting match and will not be influential here economically. As it is Japan currently has more influence economy wise in this region.

What counts is business. For example, Philippines want to export coconut produce, China buys all. Philippines want to build infrastructure - China offers financing in exchange for purchase of Chinese trains.

For example Spratleys we have numerous countries within Asean claiming that territory. So China comes into the mix as the giant. They put trade and financing on table and in exchange get some shared ownership to drill for oil.

Think about this scenario. China offers the $$, offers long term contract for any oil found there and revenue split amongst Vietnam, philipines, malaysia and China. % is part of negotiation.

With so many counter claims if China can get, say Malaysia and Philippines on their side then Vietnam has no choice.

But before that we see claims and counter claims, military ships, etc etc. In the end, China wants the oil. So it will be a business deal. Just like in malaysia - Bumi gets license, collects that 20% royalty risk free and Chinese do everything else (come up with capital, equipment, everything) but gets 80%.

So for Spratleys - maybe China comes up with all $ and expertise and gets 45% stake and the 55% split among Vietnam, malaysia and philippines.

 

[longbow]

Also, they send a few small warships - maybe total cost including fuel and sailors $10M. US comes in with the carrier group $200M. After awhile it makes a difference.

After Iraq and Afghanistan - US citizen no longer interested in conflict. Especially with China over some claims by Vietnam.

 

[winnipegjets]

LHL is very happy; seeing proof that the Chinese can protect sinkapore, he can dtich the Americans and clutch on to the Chinese.

 

[winnipegjets]

Think about this scenario. China offers the $$, offers long term contract for any oil found there and revenue split amongst Vietnam, philipines, malaysia and China. % is part of negotiation.

China won't have the money to buy if its exports continue to be reduced. No export, no income.

 

[songsongpunggol]

Just say 我们都是中国人！Your lives will be spared!!

 

[laksaboy]

Now we can have a Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere, led by China.

 

[steffychun]

Today's papers - In an unprecedented show of force, a naval task force including four Chines warships appeared at the farthest reaches of China's territorial claims in the South China Sea, with their crew pledging to 'maintain national sovereignty."...

If there is a clash, Singapore may be drawn into it. Better welcome more US navy personnel to counterbalance!!

Let them take on the shitty Littorial Combat shits of the Americans.

 

[steffychun]

LHL is very happy; seeing proof that the Chinese can protect sinkapore, he can dtich the Americans and clutch on to the Chinese.

End the US base here and set up a PRC one?

 

[laksaboy]

LHL is very happy; seeing proof that the Chinese can protect sinkapore, he can dtich the Americans and clutch on to the Chinese.

Now you know why his kids have taken a hanyu pinyin name, and why he and Ho Ching were happy to make cameo appearances on some silly Chinese variety show.

 

[steffychun]

Now you know why his kids have taken a hanyu pinyin name, and why he and Ho Ching were happy to make cameo appearances on some silly Chinese variety show.

So sad that kids dont have the daddy material to be PM

 

[watchman8]

Just say 我们都是中国人！Your lives will be spared!!

Is it? Then what happened their their elders during the cultural revolution? Mao's communism has turned the country into an amoral race. It will be several more generations before they can shake off the stench of of Mao tze dong.

 

[LeMans2011]

Just say 我们都是中国人！Your lives will be spared!!

Not enough, you must show some China traits like shitting or peeing on the spot. Those who cannot speak properly will be deemed traitors and executed.

 

[enterprise2]

If combined Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Philippines, Japan and S Korea, we r more than a match for the Chinese Navy. No need for US Navy.

 

[steffychun]

If combined Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Philippines, Japan and S Korea, we r more than a match for the Chinese Navy. No need for US Navy.

Chinese Nay have nukes.

 

[watchman8]

Chinese Nay have nukes.

Has anyone ever seen Chinese missiles in action? Not the staged firing trials, but for real use in real warfare.

The Chinese military has not fought any major war for decades. I think even their own generals have doubts on their operational readiness and ability to coordinate a war theatre with a million troops.