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Could Donald Trump start war with China over Scarborough Shoal to win re-election?

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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mil...mp-start-war-china-over-scarborough-shoal-win

Could Donald Trump start war with China over Scarborough Shoal to win re-election?
  • Retired Chinese naval officer writes that US president could start conflict in disputed South China Sea to boost approval rating
  • Observers say the idea has little military benefit but increased risk of accidental clashes remains a concern
Liu Zhen
Liu Zhen
in Beijing
Published: 8:20pm, 4 Aug, 2020


A Chinese military adviser has claimed the United States could launch an attack on disputed Chinese-controlled reefs in the
South China Sea
to boost
Donald Trump
’s prospects of winning re-election as US president.
Observers said they were concerned about accidental clashes as Beijing and Washington increasingly confront each other – but although a US offensive could spark a drastic escalation into all-out war, they viewed the possibility of it happening as low, especially without the Philippines’ agreement.
Wang Yunfei, a retired Chinese naval officer, recently wrote in a column on a military website that Trump, trailing in polls ahead of November 3’s US election, could start a “controllable” military conflict with China in the disputed South China Sea to boost his approval rating.
Among
the sea’s many disputed features
, the most likely target of a sudden US attack would be Scarborough Shoal, Wang argued.

The shoal, 120 nautical miles west of Luzon, the largest island in the Philippines, is contested by Manila and Beijing. It used to be a shooting range for the US military when it was stationed in the Philippines.


Now it is under Chinese control, but unlike the seven Chinese artificial islands in the disputed Spratly archipelago, there is no
human-built structure
on the reef.

Chinese coastguard ships regularly patrol around the shoal or in the lagoon inside it. Since 2016, Filipino fishermen have been able to operate there too
under a deal between the two countries

“There are no troops stationed there, so the consequence of a [US-China] diplomatic conflict is relatively smaller,” Wang wrote. “The American military might also try to humiliate the Chinese in the name of a resumption of their shooting training.”

Philippines threatens war with China over South China Sea

Philippines threatens war with China over South China Sea

Philippines threatens war with China over South China Sea
But an attack on the shoal, which is within the 200 nautical miles of the Philippines’ exclusive economic zone, could also represent a slap in the face for Manila unless it gives prior consent, according to Hu Bo, director of think tank South China Sea Strategic Situation Probing Initiative.

“To throw some bombs into an empty lagoon makes no military sense, and it would also upset the Philippines and even other countries in the region,” Hu said. “But if it did happen, it would also open the door to a hot conflict, just like attacking the Chinese artificial islands in the South China Sea would mean a full-on war.”

On Monday, Philippine President
Rodrigo Duterte
told his country’s military that it would no longer be taking part in joint maritime exercises in the South China Sea with other nations.
“President Duterte’s order to us, to me, is that we should not involve ourselves in naval exercises in the South China Sea except our national waters, within 12 miles of our shores,” Defence Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said.

This appeared to rule out the possibility of the Philippines – alone or jointly with the Americans – using force near Scarborough Shoal, which does not generate 12 nautical miles of territorial sea in its own right. The country has previously taken part in a number of joint exercises in the region.

“This policy is to avoid further irritating Beijing, given that US military activities in the South China Sea have practically protected the interests of the Philippines, an American ally by treaty,” said Zhang Mingliang, a specialist in South China Sea studies at Jinan University in Guangzhou, southern China.

Anti-China protests mark anniversary of Manila’s South China Sea legal win
13 Dec 2019
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“China is already under pressure from the United States, so other Asean claimants of South China Sea features are
being extremely careful
with their words and actions, so as not to explicitly choose a side.”
Technically, the Philippines’ attitude has also greatly reduced the chance of the US attacking Scarborough Shoal, Zhang added.

The US state department has recently
denounced China’s claims in the South China Sea as “unlawful”
, and the American navy and air force have been conducting exercises and reconnaissance with unprecedented frequency and intensity, raising suspicions over whether they are preparing for a sudden attack on Chinese-controlled islands and reefs.
“Trump does have the political motive to create a crisis to divert his troubles at home. But militarywise a conflict with China is too risky to manage,” said Wu Xinbo, director of Fudan University’s Centre for American Studies.
China’s Xi Jinping rejects any action based on international court’s South China Sea ruling
Nonetheless, an increase in encounters between US and Chinese warships and planes may lead to some accidents, which could escalate rapidly given current tensions, Hu said.
 

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The purpose of war is to regime change China. It's a bigger picture than just the election or those silly fake islands in the South China Sea.

By the way, SCMP owner Jack Ma should be extra careful now. :wink:
 

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The chinks cant fight, so if the US wants to give the scarborough shoal back to Manila then they will be able to do it as the chinks are weak, cant fight all show and talk only.
 

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The purpose of war is to regime change China. It's a bigger picture than just the election or those silly fake islands in the South China Sea.

By the way, SCMP owner Jack Ma should be extra careful now. :wink:

U mean like how they "regime changed" Iraq?
 

war is best form of peace

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USA is TOO FUCKING USELESS COWARD AND WEAK besides POOR.

Even against Iran NK Cuba Syria Somalia Afghan Venezuela etc.... USA can NEVER WIN.

Silly to dream of fighting a war with China.

If China just embargo and sanctions USA today. USA will die cock standing without COVID MEDICAL SUPPLIES.
 

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USA is TOO FUCKING USELESS COWARD AND WEAK besides POOR.

Even against Iran NK Cuba Syria Somalia Afghan Venezuela etc.... USA can NEVER WIN.

Silly to dream of fighting a war with China.

If China just embargo and sanctions USA today. USA will die cock standing without COVID MEDICAL SUPPLIES.
China weak military all garbage

US has SM-6 Secret Missile can defeat any China Missile.

 

war is best form of peace

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China weak military all garbage

US has SM-6 Secret Missile can defeat any China Missile.




Sino-American war settles within 24HRS at the very most only can drag to 5 days.

Most decisive phase is within the 1st 2Hrs only.

Chinese got the best most advanced and effective as well as MOST HEAVILY DEPLOYED Hypersonic Glider Vehicle WARHEADS - GLOBALLY! Americans CANNOT INTERCEPT HGV WARHEADS while CHINESE CAN INTERCEPT WHATEVER WARHEADS USA have got.

Chinese warheads can sink any USA warships and DESTROY ANY US BASES and flatten ANY USA CITIES. Dotard can do NOTHING TO STOP THIS! Cannot even RETALIATE!

Chinese Missisiles have way LONGER KILLING RANGE THAN USA COUNTERPARTS. Air to Air Ship to Ship or Air to Surface / ships likewise. Chinese kills USA forces FIRST before their weapons could engage Chinese. There is NO-CHANCE for US forces EXCEPT TO BE SLAUGHTERED LIKE DOGS.

Dotard can only play park when Xi try to be kind and civilized. ALL FUCKED AND DEAD when WAR BEGAN.


IT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL HOW MANY MILITARY BASES NOR CARRIERS NOR AIRCRAFTS you got. Your large number of targets provided can not match the Chinese mass production capacities of MISSILES AND WARHEADS. It is just nothing but a killing process for Chinese missiles to fly and end result is only a tremendously huge USA DEATH TOLL AND SPECTACULAR DEFEAT.

LAN LAN AH!
 

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During Ronald Reagan era USA got some upper hands but very quickly lost everything.

During Obama Era China caught up approximately on par with USA.

BY 2019 China already can FINISH OFF 1.5 number of USA.

After COVID hit 4 million cases in USA China can finish off 3X USA.

It runs rapidly upwards I predict 10 million COVID cases in USA and US Economic Collapse Crime Erruption Anarchy and Civil War in USA, and hence by then China can easily finish off more than 10X USA easily.
 

capamerica

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During Ronald Reagan era USA got some upper hands but very quickly lost everything.

During Obama Era China caught up approximately on par with USA.

BY 2019 China already can FINISH OFF 1.5 number of USA.

After COVID hit 4 million cases in USA China can finish off 3X USA.

It runs rapidly upwards I predict 10 million COVID cases in USA and US Economic Collapse Crime Erruption Anarchy and Civil War in USA, and hence by then China can easily finish off more than 10X USA easily.
US has many new secret weapon to defeat China rotting military

China cannot win

https://news.usni.org/2019/01/08/navy-quietly-fires-20-hyper-velocity-projectiles-destroyers-deckgun

Navy Quietly Fires 20 Hyper Velocity Projectiles Through Destroyer’s Deckgun
By: Sam LaGrone
January 8, 2019 12:42 PM
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Guided-missile destroyer USS Dewey (DDG-105) transits the Pacific Ocean while underway in the U.S. 3rd Fleet area of operations. US Navy Photo
Last summer USS Dewey (DDG-105) fired 20 hyper velocity projectiles (HVP) from a standard Mk 45 5-inch deck gun in a quiet experiment that’s set to add new utility to the weapon found on almost every U.S. warship, officials familiar with the test have told USNI News.
The test, conducted by the Navy and the Pentagon’s Strategic Capabilities Office as part of the Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) 2018 international exercise, was part of a series of studies to prove the Navy could turn the more than 40-year-old deck gun design into an effective and low-cost weapon against cruise missiles and larger unmanned aerial vehicles.
While the HVP was originally designed to be the projectile for the electromagnetic railgun, the Navy and the Pentagon see the potential for a new missile defense weapon that can launch a guided round at near-hypersonic speeds.
 
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