Now Japan fucking Chinese Huawei big time. China is dead!

[Ang4MohTrump]

HUAWEI GOT IT'S VERY OWN CPU CHIP BETTER THAN ALL ELSE!

Any one messing with China in Technology get eaten alive.

EVERYTHING is done & prepared by China in MULTIPLE REDUNDANCY to REPLACE ALL OF G7 especially USA. Kim Chi & Japs also dead meat.

https://www.businessweekly.co.uk/ne...s-own-chip-factory-cambridge-counter-arm-blow

23 May, 2019 - 13:35 By Tony Quested
Huawei builds its own chip factory in Cambridge to counter Arm blow

Huawei is to make its own chips at a new factory in Cambridge UK technology hotspot as it fights back from the latest backlash from the US-China trade war.
The chip factory is slated for the 550-acre former Spicers site at Sawston for which Huawei recently paid £37.5 million, as first revealed by Business Weekly.
It appears the Chinese ICT giant had anticipated escalation of the bitter China-US impasse in making the Cambridge land acquisition as part of multi-billion dollar investment in the UK economy.
As part of the US-China fallout Arm has revealed that it has ended supply of its chips to Huawei-owned HiSilicon under restrictions from the White House.
The company said: “Arm is complying with the latest restrictions set forth by the US government and is having ongoing conversations with the appropriate US government agencies to ensure we remain compliant.
“Arm values its relationship with our longtime partner HiSilicon and we are hopeful for a swift resolution on this matter.”
If Arm cannot supply HiSilicon over the long haul it would seriously damage Huawei’s hopes of helping to supply a super fast 5G network for the UK and other European nations, among other potentially lucrative contracts.
The latest move is ironic as Arm CEO Simon Segars recently went public in saying that Huawei was best placed to help deliver 5G across the UK and Europe and that any delay in rollout could damage economies across the continent.
HiSilicon is a Chinese fabless semiconductor company based in Shenzhen, Guangdong and fully owned by Huawei.
It buys licenses for CPU designs from Arm, including the Arm Cortex-A9 MPCore, Arm Cortex-M3, ARM Cortex-A7 MPCore, ARM Cortex-A15 MPCore ARM Cortex-A53, ARM Cortex-A57 and also for their Mali graphics cores.

 

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World is unable to catch up with China in CPU technology.


https://www.techradar.com/news/huaweis-new-chip-is-the-most-complex-cpu-ever-built

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Huawei’s new chip is the most complex CPU ever built
By TechRadar Pro 2019-01-23T15:48:27Z Processors
New cores, new ambitions – meet Huawei’s Kunpeng

Earlier this month, Huawei announced a new server processor, the Kunpeng 920, at CES. This CPU turned heads in the industry as it was the first silicon design from the Chinese behemoth to feature rather impressive specs and benchmark numbers.
TechRadar Pro managed to get an exclusive interview with Mr Ai Wei, Fellow, Chipsets and Hardware Technology Strategy at Huawei, to discuss this new ARM-based processor in more detail, and some interesting titbits emerged concerning performance and transistor counts.

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Mr Ai Wei, Fellow, Chipsets and Hardware Technology Strategy at Huawei
TechRadar Pro (TRP): Are the new processors (Kunpeng 920) going to be used by Huawei only in its servers or will they be available to other vendors (and potential Huawei competitors)?
Ai Wei: Our new CPU Kunpeng 920 will only be used on Huawei’s servers and other Huawei equipment, delivering value for our customers through equipment and cloud services. We will not be selling these chips directly.
TRP: Huawei servers were until now almost all x86-powered. What made you choose to go for an ARM architecture? How will both architectures sit within your product portfolio?
AW: The x86-based product market is still growing. At the same time, the service and data demands across multiple scenarios are driving the diversity of computing, and presenting new opportunities to the ARM industry. Huawei actively works with global partners to provide competitive products and solutions to customers.
TRP: How does your performance per core per MHz compare to the competition (Intel Xeon Gold, Cavium ThunderX2, Ampere eMAG)?
AW: Kunpeng 920 was independently designed by Huawei based on an ARMv8 architecture license. Kunpeng 920 significantly improves single-core performance by optimizing branch prediction algorithms, increasing the number of execution units, and adopting out-of-order execution. The CPU’s SPECint2006 score exceeded 10/GHz per core.
(Ed: In comparison, an HP 2P AMD EPYC 7601 system scored 14/GHz per core).
TRP: Why do you think Huawei will succeed with Kunpeng 920 where others have failed and lost hundreds of millions of dollars in the process?
AW: We are entering an intelligent society where all things are connected, sensing, and intelligent. In view of the industry trends and application requirements, a new era of diversified computing is unfolding. Multiple data types and scenarios are driving computing architecture optimization. Combining multiple computing architectures for optimal performance is a must. We remain customer-centric and offer multiple paths for our customers to address their diverse needs.
With the development of smartphones, edge computing, and the Internet of Things (IoT), and as data diversity drives more diversity in computing, the ARM industry will see many new opportunities for development. The ARM architecture is highly energy-efficient and can address new requirements from specific application scenarios. Technological improvement will help ARM deliver higher performance for data centers. According to estimates by ARM, 100 billion ARM-based CPUs will be shipped between 2017 and 2020, representing a huge market.
TRP: The Kunpeng 920 lands at a time of great changes in the land of processors with FPGA and accelerators playing an increasingly important role in tackling data center loads. How do you see the Kunpeng family evolving over the next few years?
AW: The explosion and diversity of data presents new opportunities and challenges. We will continue to innovate the Kunpeng series CPUs, and provide higher-speed I/Os with increased computing power. We will also constantly work with our industry partners to provide better solutions for our customers.
TRP: Are the cores standard ARM A76 cores, or ARM’s Ares platform, or something else? What is the expected die size at 7nm (roughly)? Any details regarding the transistor count?
AW: There is no relevance between these cores and ARM’s standard A76 or Ares cores, it is fully independently-developed by Huawei. In terms of transistors there are roughly over 20-billion transistors integrated. Information regarding die size is confidential.
TRP: You showed a SPECint score of 930. That’s SPECint2006 rate? What was the SPECfp result?
AW: Yes, that number is the score of running the benchmark SPECint2006 rate. The score of SPECfp is over 800 with 64 [email protected].
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ARM也要断供，华为芯片面临挑战？任正非回应：没影响！

2019-05-23 22:39

连日来，华为遭到了全球巨头们最严峻的挑战，按照美国的要求，华为将被列入管制“实体名单”，同时还将被执行三大禁令，包括停止对华为以及海思产品发货、所有已有或新的订单都有暂停或终止、停止访问华为电子采购网站，并禁止接入。

这些美国的严令将直接影响到华为的核心供应链，包括英特尔、高通、ARM等供应商，因此华为可能面临有史以来最大的供应链全面断货危机。现在英特尔、高通和谷歌等公司都已经中止了与华为的业务，现在有外媒报道陈，ARM也已经终止了和华为的合作，这让很多网友认为华为将面临更大的压力。

不少分析人士认为，如果谷歌不再提供Android支持，华为还可以通过 Google 的开源项目继续维持手机系统的迭代，但如果ARM彻底断供，则会对华为的芯片业务造成巨大影响。因为我们正在使用的智能手机、智能手表或是数码相机、乃至你想不到的消费电子设备，其实都有 ARM 的身影。

因为这家英国技术公司掌握着不少专利，对电子设备最核心的部件CPU芯片里的指令集有着绝对的控制权，除了指令集以外，CPU芯片所对应的硬件规格也就是指令集架构也归属该公司，ARM 带来的就是ARM架构。

另一家拥有指令集设计专利的公司就是同样中止与华为合作的英特尔，如今市面上的绝大部分PC台式机或者笔记本电脑都使用来自英特尔的处理器，同样的英特尔也掌握了这些芯片的核心专利，即X86 架构。与ARM有所不同，英特尔还包揽了芯片的生产和销售的环节，直接推出成品 CPU，因此下游终端企业只能在英特尔手里买到这个架构的芯片。

ARM的经营方式与英特尔完全相反，它没有生产和销售环节，不需要直接参与芯片制造，也不用耗巨资去建造晶圆厂，它只要管设计就行了，然后将设计好的架构授权给有需要的企业，华为的海思麒麟芯片就是其中一款。

和高通、三星公司一样，华为很早之前就获得了来自 ARM 授权，生产基于ARM 指令集的处理器，同时也会用到 ARM 提供的架构技术。现在华为最顶级的麒麟980处理器是基于ARMv8 架构开发的。作为业内首颗商用 7nm 制程工艺芯片，整体水准已经可以媲美高通苹果的同类产品。

除了运用在智能手机上的芯片以外，华为还有面向5G终端使用的通信芯片和面向服务器设备的鲲鹏芯片等，这些新品均涉及到了ARM架构。也就是说，目前华为的麒麟芯片完全是基于ARM 的公版架构进行设计生产，所以华为需要和ARM保持紧密联系，甚至很难绕过它进行调整。

华为设计一款芯片，我们可以将其看成是盖楼，而ARM提供的就是最基础的图纸，如果连图纸都没有，地基就无从打起，之后的楼层搭建和装修工作更是虚无缥缈。正式由于ARM这次的断供，迫使华为需要从指令集和架构开始设计芯片，但这一切绝不是段时间内能够实现的。

虽然这次ARM的断供非常强烈，但作为当事人，华为对此的反应并不强烈，甚至可以说是波澜不惊。根据据财新网报道，华为CEO任正非在接受采访时表示，ARM暂停与华为合作对华为“没有影响”，因为华为公司已经获得ARM架构的永久授权。

从字面意思来看，华为并不会因为ARM的断供导致麒麟芯片难产，因为ARM架构是永久授权的，可能华为未来会面临技术支持的问题，但不会影响ARM架构的授权使用。此前ARM中国还向媒体表示，十分重视长期合作伙伴海思，正在积极寻求合规的妥善解决方案。希望华为能够尽快挺过难关！

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ARM also has to cut off, Huawei chips face challenges? Ren Zhengfei responded: no effect!

2019-05-23 22:39


In the past few days, Huawei has been the most severe challenge for global giants. According to the requirements of the United States, Huawei will be listed on the “list of entities” and will also be subject to three bans, including the suspension of shipments of Huawei and HiSili products. All existing or new orders are suspended or terminated, stop visiting Huawei e-procurement website, and prohibit access.




These US strict rules will directly affect Huawei's core supply chain, including Intel, Qualcomm, ARM and other suppliers, so Huawei may face the largest supply chain crisis in the history of the entire supply chain. Now Intel, Qualcomm and Google have suspended their business with Huawei. Now foreign media reports Chen, ARM has also terminated cooperation with Huawei, which makes many netizens think that Huawei will face greater pressure.


Many analysts believe that if Google no longer provides Android support, Huawei can continue to maintain the iteration of the mobile phone system through Google's open source project, but if ARM completely cuts off, it will have a huge impact on Huawei's chip business. Because we are using smartphones, smart watches or digital cameras, and even consumer electronics that you can't think of, there are actually ARMs.


Because the British technology company holds a lot of patents, it has absolute control over the instruction set in the CPU chip of the core component of electronic equipment. In addition to the instruction set, the hardware specification corresponding to the CPU chip is also the instruction set architecture. The company, ARM brings the ARM architecture.




Another company with an instruction set design patent is the same as Intel that has cooperated with Huawei. Most of the PC desktops or laptops on the market today use Intel processors, and the same Intel has mastered the core patents of these chips. , that is, the X86 architecture. Different from ARM, Intel has also taken over the production and sales of chips, and directly launched the finished CPU. Therefore, downstream terminal companies can only buy chips of this architecture in Intel.


ARM's way of doing business is exactly the opposite of that of Intel. It has no production and sales links. It does not need to directly participate in chip manufacturing, nor does it cost a lot of money to build a fab. It only needs to design the design, and then license the designed architecture to The company that needs it, Huawei's Hess Kirin chip is one of them.


Like Qualcomm and Samsung, Huawei has licensed ARM from a long time ago to produce processors based on the ARM instruction set, and will also use the architecture technology provided by ARM. Now Huawei's top Kirin 980 processor is based on the ARMv8 architecture. As the industry's first commercial 7nm process chip, the overall level is comparable to Qualcomm Apple's similar products.




In addition to the chips used in smartphones, Huawei also has communication chips for 5G terminals and Kempen chips for server devices. These new products all involve the ARM architecture. That is to say, Huawei's Kirin chip is currently designed and manufactured based on ARM's public version architecture, so Huawei needs to maintain close contact with ARM, and it is even difficult to bypass it for adjustment.


Huawei designed a chip, we can think of it as a building, and ARM provides the most basic drawings. If there are no drawings, the foundation will not be played, and the subsequent floor construction and decoration work will be illusory. Officially due to the discontinuation of ARM this time, forcing Huawei to design chips from the instruction set and architecture, but this is not something that can be achieved in a period of time.


Although ARM's confiscation is very strong this time, as a party, Huawei's response to this is not strong, and it can even be said that it is not shocking. According to Caixin.com, Huawei CEO Ren Zhengfei said in an interview that ARM's suspension of cooperation with Huawei has no impact on Huawei because Huawei has obtained a permanent license for the ARM architecture.




From a literal point of view, Huawei will not cause unicorn chips to be difficult to produce due to the discontinuation of ARM. Because the ARM architecture is permanently licensed, Huawei may face technical support issues in the future, but will not affect the authorized use of the ARM architecture. ARM China also said to the media that it attaches great importance to long-term partner HiSilicon, and is actively seeking appropriate solutions for compliance. I hope that Huawei can overcome the difficulties as soon as possible!


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[tun_dr_m]

Dotard caused an impending big switch to take place early.

China had long prepared to take over business of technology from Silicon Valley and got everything done. Dotard cause Chinese to make their impending move earlier than planned.

From 5G onward, Chinese will be the only source of technology, from silicon to CPU architecture to OS, to apps, to infrastructure networks, to smart phones, to cameras, to drones etc. From definition of standard to manufacturing ALL IN CHINA. They are in full control not just because they have the best technology, but they also have THE BIGGEST MARKET + THE BIGGEST FACTORIES + THE $$$CAPITAL$$$, + THE GLOBAL PRICE COMPETITIVENESS + GLOBAL MARKETS (can deduct USA from global market), they will surely win.

Dotard caused Silicon Valley to lose, there is nothing that China will still need from them, nor the rest of the world. All the bet paid jobs in US Tech Firms will be lost for once and for all. Japs & Kim Chi are also sucking on this but they will humbly follow behind Chinese and seek remaining business opportunities, they will not follow Dotard's mistake.

MAGA!
Anyone want to Guai-Lan with China can just be simply ERASED from the picture INSIGNIFICANTLY and neglected. No need to Trade Talk at all actually.

 

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If Huawei and the other Chinese technology companies succeed, then this attack on them from the US will be seen as a blessing in hindsight.

Make China Great Again.

 

[tun_dr_m]

Reports saying now Chinese Engineers working in Qualcomm are leaving and fleeing to Chinese firms such as Huawei!

Dotard caused it! Want to sabotage China but got the reversed effects.

Losers cannot stop the winners even by cheating!

https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2019-05-24/doc-ihvhiqay0969542.shtml

官媒：美国又出一昏招 却可能帮中国

2019年05月24日 07:33 环球网



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　　美国又出一昏招，可能帮中国！
“美国已大幅放缓对国内半导体公司聘用中国籍员工担任高级工程职位的审批”，据美国《华尔街日报》22日报道，美国这一举动始于去年，“适逢白宫正采取全面措施保护美国专有技术。”报道评论称，这一变化对美国芯片行业影响重大，因为目前中国籍员工在受聘从事这类技术岗位的非美国籍员工中占比较大。中国业内人士23日告诉《环球时报》记者，尽管美国此举本意在于阻断两国的科技交流，打压中国技术发展，但结果却反而可能导致芯片专业人才向中国回流。

《华尔街日报》称，根据此前已实施数十年的规定，美国公司在指派来自中国、伊朗、俄罗斯等国的外籍员工从事一系列敏感科技工作之前必须获得“视同出口”的执照许可。许可审批涉及先进半导体、电信系统、加密等领域的工作，其严格程度取决于具体的技术。据知情人士透露，美国商务部过去进行审批仅需要几周时间，而如今常常要等6至8个月。
报道称，截至目前，美国审批政策的变化已影响到英特尔、高通和格罗方德等半导体企业的数百个工作岗位，阻碍了这些公司在美国聘用中国籍员工或将现有员工调任关键项目的能力。报道分析称，这一变化影响重大，因为在此类技术岗位上，美国国内人才供应常常不足，而“中国籍员工在受聘从事这类技术岗位的非美国籍员工中占比较大”。根据美国商务部的数据，2013年至2017年间，中国籍员工占获批许可数量的60%以上。

高通
芯片行业业内人士、中科院济南超算中心主任张云泉23日对《环球时报》记者表示，美国放缓对半导体公司聘用中国籍员工的审批将导致美国该行业的人才成本上升，并可能对相关企业的创新能力和项目进度造成直接影响。与此同时，此举也可能导致华裔芯片人才回流中国，中国相关企业可以招聘到水平更好的人员。至于此举是否会造成中国行业人员无法接触到前沿技术进而动摇芯片行业研究基础，他则认为“影响不会很大”，因为中国公司也可以招聘来自美国和其他国家的非华裔高端人才。

“聘用审批的放缓表明，美国公司应对美国政府对华科技立场面临两难处境：意在保护美国竞争力的决定有时反而可能削弱竞争力。”《华尔街日报》也在报道中表达了相似观点，认为尽管审批放缓涉及各个行业，但对芯片制造商来说尤其麻烦，因为有能力从事高科技工程工作的人才本来就很少。报道援引一位业内人士的话称，“更长的延误时间已让他们错过极其看好的人选。”
复旦大学美国研究中心副主任信强23日告诉《环球时报》记者，上述政策变化是美国国内所谓“中国科技间谍论”的又一次体现，也是意在警告该国华裔科学家远离中国，试图营造“寒蝉效应”。信强说，也许短期内美国可以达到他们想要的“效果”，即造成华裔科学家接触美国高科技领域的渠道受阻，但长期来看，这不仅会导致许多华裔科学家因个人事业发展受阻而永远离开美国，打击美国自身科技实力的发展，还可能会塑造一个恶劣的先例，并产生非常广泛而恶劣的外溢效应，“比如把同样的措施扩展到中美大学和科研机构合作等领域，甚至扩大到其他国家与族裔身上。这将对美国的国际形象、软实力的提升都构成相当负面的影响。
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Official media: The United States has another stun, but it may help China.
May 24, 2019 07:33 World Wide Web
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The United States has another stun, it may help China!

"The United States has substantially slowed down the approval of domestic semiconductor companies to hire Chinese employees for senior engineering positions." According to the US "Wall Street Journal" reported on the 22nd, the US move began last year, "the White House is taking comprehensive measures to protect the United States. Proprietary technology.” The report commented that this change has had a major impact on the US chip industry, as Chinese employees currently account for a large proportion of non-US employees employed in such technical positions. Chinese industry insiders told the Global Times reporter on the 23rd that although the US intention was to block the scientific and technological exchanges between the two countries and suppress China's technological development, the result may actually lead to the return of chip professionals to China.

The Wall Street Journal said that according to the regulations that have been implemented for decades, US companies must obtain a license for “export as an export” before assigning foreign employees from China, Iran, and Russia to work on a range of sensitive technologies. Licensing approval involves work in areas such as advanced semiconductors, telecommunications systems, and encryption, and the degree of rigor depends on the specific technology. According to people familiar with the matter, the US Department of Commerce has only been approved for a few weeks in the past, and today it often takes six to eight months.

According to the report, as of now, changes in US approval policies have affected hundreds of jobs in semiconductor companies such as Intel, Qualcomm and Grofund, which have prevented these companies from hiring Chinese employees or transferring existing employees to key projects in the US. Ability. According to the report, this change has a significant impact, because in such technical positions, the domestic talent supply is often insufficient, and “Chinese employees are relatively large among non-US employees employed in such technical positions”. According to the US Department of Commerce, between 2013 and 2017, Chinese employees accounted for more than 60% of the approved licenses.

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Zhang Yunquan, director of the chip industry industry and director of the Jinan Super-calculation Center of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, told the Global Times on the 23rd that the US slowdown in the approval of Chinese-employed employees of semiconductor companies will lead to an increase in the cost of talent in the US industry, and may be related to related companies. Innovative capabilities and project schedules have a direct impact. At the same time, this move may also lead to the return of Chinese chip talents to China, and Chinese companies can recruit better people. Whether this will cause Chinese industry personnel to be unable to access cutting-edge technology and shake the research foundation of the chip industry, he believes that "the impact will not be great", because Chinese companies can also recruit non-Chinese high-end talent from the United States and other countries.

“The slowdown in employment approvals indicates that US companies are facing a dilemma in the US government’s position on China’s science and technology: the decision to protect US competitiveness sometimes may weaken competitiveness.” The Wall Street Journal also expressed similar views in the report. It is considered that although the slowdown of approval involves various industries, it is especially troublesome for chip manufacturers, because there are few talents capable of working in high-tech engineering. The report quoted an industry insider as saying that "longer delays have caused them to miss extremely optimistic candidates."

Xinqiang, deputy director of the American Studies Center of Fudan University, told the Global Times reporter on the 23rd that the above policy changes are another manifestation of the so-called "Chinese science and technology espionage" in the United States. It is also intended to warn the Chinese scientists in the country to stay away from China and try to create " The chilling effect." Xin Qiang said that perhaps in the short term, the United States can achieve the "effect" they want, that is, the channels that cause Chinese scientists to contact the US high-tech field are blocked, but in the long run, this will not only cause many Chinese scientists to be blocked for personal career development forever. Leaving the United States and cracking down on the development of the United States' own scientific and technological strength may also create a bad precedent and produce a very broad and adverse spillover effect. "For example, the same measures can be extended to areas such as cooperation between Chinese and American universities and scientific research institutions, and even expand. To other countries and ethnic groups. This will have a rather negative impact on the US's international image and soft power.

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[Huatable]

I watched his interview with the Chinese national broadcaster during weekend. I felt that he was in denial, absolutely confident to the extend that he claimed that the company is well prepared.

I guess Chinese government will fully back them technologically and financially in this crisis, which might be better than facing open-competition in normal days.

 

[syed putra]

Reports saying now Chinese Engineers working in Qualcomm are leaving and fleeing to Chinese firms such as Huawei!

Dotard caused it! Want to sabotage China but got the reversed effects.

Losers cannot stop the winners even by cheating!

Chinese are irrelevant. When indian engineers flee, then you worry!

 

[krafty]

US ANGKAT JEPUN NOW, CHINA WILL LOOK TO RUSSIA FOR FURTHER ALLIANCE.

 

[Leckmichamarsch]

What has ARM got to do with japan? It is british based.

Founder is arb n mooselim

 

[Leckmichamarsch]

Chinese are irrelevant. When indian engineers flee, then you worry!

Indon minahs worry as nobody will fuck their smelly mozxie cunts

 

[mojito]

Huawei owns the permanent authorisation of ARM8a. They can start building their CPU based on it and it perfectly legit.

The greatest hindrance to the development of chips industry in china is not lack of know-how or expertise but lack of market since even Chinese companies prefer to use the most advance foreign chips leaving very little room for domestic chips maker to sell and improve their products

With the latest ban, Trump has ironically provide the catalyst for Made in china 2025.

So short term wise China will suffer more but eventually USA will bear the long term pain as china always thrive under embargo.

Bro, these 5 year plans don't work. Remember Goal 2010? Now 2019 already you got hear lao goh squeak?

 

[laksaboy]

Huawei owns the permanent authorisation of ARM8a. They can start building their CPU based on it and it perfectly legit.

The greatest hindrance to the development of chips industry in china is not lack of know-how or expertise but lack of market since even Chinese companies prefer to use the most advance foreign chips leaving very little room for domestic chips maker to sell and improve their products

With the latest ban, Trump has ironically provide the catalyst for Made in china 2025.

So short term wise China will suffer more but eventually USA will bear the long term pain as china always thrive under embargo.

I believe innovation cannot exist in a repressed society, and especially when the stealing of technology can no longer continue as usual.

However, let's assume that you might be right: recent incidents might serve as a catalyst for the 'China 2025' masterplan.

The wildcard is that during the 'short term suffering', China might experience political upheaval and instability. Maybe a civil war or a coup within the CCP. Then all bets are off. Remember: many factions within the CCP absolutely hate Xi Jinping.

Besides getting squeezed by tariffs and jobs moving out of China, many of the countries participating in OBOR are 'renegotiating' or 'rethinking' previous commitments after a change in government. Mahathir is a famous example. Most recent case would be Pakistan. China will experience financial losses as it can no longer milk as much money as it used to.

 

[cowbellc]

With Japan now on the side of the USA China is getting screwed deeply and is going to suffer bigly!

This will teach the chinks to be more humble in their dealings. They were getting too big for their boots and now Trump has put them in their place.

What if China decides to ban all US inputs, tell China people cannot use US goods. Illegal to use US goods. What will be the impact to US biz?

 

[tanwahtiu]

Prophet prediction: Trump is going to be sued by one of his golf investors ....

 

[krafty]

i am disliking trump, i think he attempting to save his own economy partnering with jepun, distasteful...

 

[rushifa666]

This is gunboat policy redux.

I thought chinaman loves to talk about how big their guns are?

 

[rushifa666]

i am disliking trump, i think he attempting to save his own economy partnering with jepun, distasteful...

Japan has always been american lackey number 1. Whoeber is president doesnt matter.

 

[krafty]

Japan has always been american lackey number 1. Whoeber is president doesnt matter.

to think that jepun bomb their pearl harbour and cause them heavy losses.

 

[greedy and cunning]

Now Japan fucking Chinese Huawei big time. China is dead!

please report again when the nihonji has reached orgasm
the japanese can self masturbate till end of time
and china will still be alive