no wonder dyson cancelled his electric automobile plans

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the 1st dyson automobile, a family-size suv codenamed n526, will require at least usd169k to break even. will have to sell it at usd369k to make reasonable margins in the u.s. market to survive. but their battery technology is more bagus than tesla's. can achieve a range of 696 miles, almost twice that of the tesla's model x. he will make more money selling the battery tech.
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We need solid state batteries to become mainstream. Lithium ion/polymer batteries have limitations and annoyances.
 
We need solid state batteries to become mainstream. Lithium ion/polymer batteries have limitations and annoyances.
that’s why i don’t encourage anyone buying tesla stock now as it will crash when dyson starts shipping solid state batteries to jap and german auto companies.
 
We need solid state batteries to become mainstream. Lithium ion/polymer batteries have limitations and annoyances.
Samsung reveals long-range, solid-state, EV battery prototype
By Loz Blain
March 18, 2020
Researchers from the Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology (SAIT) and the Samsung R&D Institute Japan (SRJ) have designed high-performance, long-lasting all-solid-state batteries

Researchers from the Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology (SAIT) and the Samsung R&D Institute Japan (SRJ) have designed high-performance, long-lasting all-solid-state batteries
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At 50 percent smaller by volume than a typical lithium-ion battery, Samsung's prototype solid-state pouch cells could enable 500-mile electric car ranges and cycle lives over 1,000 charges in a much safer package.

The drive towards solid-state is one of the key fronts in the battle to break through to the next generation of batteries that will power our vehicles, aircraft, devices and homes in the coming decades, provided the coronavirus doesn't send us back to using sharp rocks as tools.
Where current-gen lithium-ion batteries use liquid electrolytes, in which lithium ions float back and forth between the cathode and anode every time you charge or discharge the battery, solid-state batteries use a congealed solid that passes charges back and forth.
Eliminating the liquid electrolyte not only allows for much more dense and compact batteries with much higher capacity by volume, it also deals with heat much better. Solid-state batteries will thus require less heat evacuation equipment, meaning even less weight and bulk for an electric car to carry around, and a longer lifespan. They also don't explode or catch fire, which is a rare but deal-breaking issue with current technology.

One of the key problems thus far has been dendrite formation. Yes, that old chestnut. Lithium-metal anodes such as those typically used tend to start building up little deposits of metal over many cycles, which can form stalagmite-like protrusions that eventually push through to the point where they can begin to short out the battery and reduce its life. There are naturally also safety implications.
Researchers at the Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology (SAIT) and the Samsung R&D Institute Japan (SRJ) say they've successfully sidestepped this problem by replacing the lithium metal anode with a 5-micrometer-thick silver-carbon composite layer. Using a solid sulfide electrolyte and a high-nickel layered oxide cathode, the team found this new design "effectively regulate[d] lithium deposition, which leads to a genuinely long electrochemical cyclability."
Yuichi Aihara, Principal Engineer from SRJ, Yong-Gun Lee, Principal Researcher and Dongmin Im, Master from SAIT, the researchers behind Samsung's prototype solid-state battery
Yuichi Aihara, Principal Engineer from SRJ, Yong-Gun Lee, Principal Researcher and Dongmin Im, Master from SAIT, the researchers behind Samsung's prototype solid-state battery
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Prototype pouch cells were tested at more than 900 Wh per liter, about double the density of typical liquid electrolyte cells, with a Coulombic efficiency over 99.8 percent – that is, the cells discharge 99.8 percent of the energy they're charged with. Cycle life is estimated to be over 1,000 cycles, which might sound like it's not a lot, but the team say this design would allow for 500-mile (800-km) battery packs, and thus a thousand charge cycles could represent as much as 500,000 miles (800,000 km) of driving if managed carefully – more than you'd expect from most engines.
Samsung is one of the world's best-established battery manufacturers, and is certainly in a good position to start rolling next-gen batteries out in bulk if it believes they nail the brief. For now, the team says it plans to continue refining the designs, as well as the manufacturing technologies that need to be put in place to get them moving in bulk.
Price will, of course, be a huge factor in the success of any coming battery technology, as battery prices still account for a large percentage of the price of an EV. And this study says nothing of power density, which will affect both the performance of the cars involved and their ability to charge quickly. Mind you, the fact that they should deal with heat so well would lead us to believe that high charge rates might be possible without damaging or deteriorating the battery.
The research was published in Nature Energy.
 
New carbon-ion battery technology can charge an electric vehicle 100 times faster than existing battery technologies.

The technology has been developed to charge an EV in 35 seconds and providing a 350-mile (500 km) range, comparable to traditional combustion engine vehicles.

The battery has solid-state carbon-ion cells and contains no lithium or cobalt, ensuring relative lower cost and safety.

BUT just wait and see ! The catch is since it's lower cost and safe not much money can be gain and it won't be 'allowed' in mass production or use ... just like free energy.


https://www.smart-energy.com/indust...-technology-to-charge-an-ev-100-times-faster/




Cold Fusion is advance vs 'old' and destructive Hot Fusion
 
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I think the big one will be if the batteries can power airplanes.
 
I think the big one will be if the batteries can power airplanes.
They are working on a hybrid power plant whereby a smaller jet engine will be used but during takeoff, that engine eill be boosted by electric power.
 
the 1st dyson automobile, a family-size suv codenamed n526, will require at least usd169k to break even. will have to sell it at usd369k to make reasonable margins in the u.s. market to survive. but their battery technology is more bagus than tesla's. can achieve a range of 696 miles, almost twice that of the tesla's model x. he will make more money selling the battery tech.
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He HQ in sinkieland.

Of course the car so expensive lah. Includes COE!
 
He HQ in sinkieland.

Of course the car so expensive lah. Includes COE!
His idea was yo use sinkie free trade agreement to export to all key markets including China, India, US, Japan and EU.
Its the same reason why many automobile manufacturers chose Mexico for their plants. Mexico has free trade agreements with US/ Canada and , central America, Japan, EU and Caribbean nations.
 
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that’s why i don’t encourage anyone buying tesla stock now as it will crash when dyson starts shipping solid state batteries to jap and german auto companies.

If you have been following EV battery developments, the key is not raw range. It's cost. $100/kwh is the magic number bandied around to reach cost parity with ICE costs.

Dyson's batteries are not cost effective and unable to achieve $100/kwh for many years to come.

While you may be right not to buy Tesla stock now, the reasoning is flawed.
 
We need solid state batteries to become mainstream. Lithium ion/polymer batteries have limitations and annoyances.

Solid state batteries will probably be more suited to aviation if they ever make the switch to electric. Cost is the issue.
 
that’s why i don’t encourage anyone buying tesla stock now as it will crash when dyson starts shipping solid state batteries to jap and german auto companies.

I never quite understand why the Tesla stock is so hot. The P/E ratio of the stock is -917.95! I have never seen a more grossly overvalued stock than this turd.
 
I never quite understand why the Tesla stock is so hot. The P/E ratio of the stock is -917.95! I have never seen a more grossly overvalued stock than this turd.
Current tesla model 3 is selling like hot cakes.


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Its just a matter of time I think before they get their production cost diwn and start making money. Tesla also best selling car in UK and Norway.
 
Solid state batteries will probably be more suited to aviation if they ever make the switch to electric. Cost is the issue.
and with oil price collapse maybe that cost is an even bigger problem.

Seriously does the amount of materials and manufacturing cost justify the switch to electric?
 
Current tesla model 3 is selling like hot cakes.


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Its just a matter of time I think before they get their production cost diwn and start making money. Tesla also best selling car in UK and Norway.

2 reasons why Tesla might fail now.

Switch to work from home. Fewer people will need to commute.

Drop in oil prices. Gasoline is cheap. Makes it harder to justify cost associated with electric cars like Tesla.

Overall there will be less reasons to buy a car. and much less electric cars.

Tesla has to work on their fleet of autonomous taxis. That one will be a game changer. If it reduces the cost for a taxi ride way way low.
 
2 reasons why Tesla might fail now.

Switch to work from home. Fewer people will need to commute.

Drop in oil prices. Gasoline is cheap. Makes it harder to justify cost associated with electric cars like Tesla.

Overall there will be less reasons to buy a car. and much less electric cars.

Tesla has to work on their fleet of autonomous taxis. That one will be a game changer. If it reduces the cost for a taxi ride way way low.
can also enjoy hanky panky in backseat of autonomous cab without a driver getting riled up.
 
I never quite understand why the Tesla stock is so hot. The P/E ratio of the stock is -917.95! I have never seen a more grossly overvalued stock than this turd.

You don't have to understand it, just ride the wave.

The bulls think Elon is the god of science, bears think he is the god of con.

Can make money can already.
 
and with oil price collapse maybe that cost is an even bigger problem.

Seriously does the amount of materials and manufacturing cost justify the switch to electric?

As I mentioned, the magic number is $100/kwh battery cost. But that's what the computer says.
 
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