No more automatic death penalty; one big step forward for Singapore.

[bryanlim1972]

AsiaOne
Monday, Jul 09, 2012
Judges will be given discretion to impose life imprisonment instead of death penalty in certain specific instances of drug trafficking and murder.

This comes after a review of the death penalty by the Ministry of Home Affairs in December 2010. It had deferred all executions since it began reviewing drug cases in July last year.

Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Home Affairs Teo Chee Hean said in Parliament on Monday that the review reaffirmed the relevance of the death penalty for all the offences to which it currently applies.

Mr Teo said that for drug trafficking, mandatory drug penalty will continue to apply except where two 'specific, tightly-defined' conditions are both met.

First, the person must have only played the role of a courier. He or she must not have been involved in any other activity related to drug supply or distribution.

Second, the person must have cooperated with authorities in a "substantive" way, or has a mental disability that "substantially imapirs" his judgment of the gravity of the act.

Other than these instances, the death penalty will remain, such as for drug kingpins and distributors, said DPM Teo.

Minister for Law K Shanmugam, who spoke after DPM Teo in Parliament, said that in respect of how the mandatory death penalty applies to cases amounting to murder, the Government intends to apply capital punishment only when there is an intention to kill.

Mr Shanmugam said that all accused persons who meet the requirements can choose to be considered for re-sentencing under the new law, once the draft legislation is in place.

Both ministers said, meanwhile, that Singapore still sees the relevance of death penalty to most cases.

 

[ChewCheng]

Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

Judges will be given discretion to impose life imprisonment instead of death penalty in certain specific instances of drug trafficking and murder.

This comes after a review of the death penalty by the Ministry of Home Affairs in December 2010. It had deferred all executions since it began reviewing drug cases in July last year.

Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Home Affairs Teo Chee Hean said in Parliament on Monday that the review reaffirmed the relevance of the death penalty for all the offences to which it currently applies.

Mr Teo said that for drug trafficking, mandatory drug penalty will continue to apply except where two 'specific, tightly-defined' conditions are both met.

First, the person must have only played the role of a courier. He or she must not have been involved in any other activity related to drug supply or distribution.

Second, the person must have cooperated with authorities in a "substantive" way, or has a mental disability that "substantially imapirs" his judgment of the gravity of the act.

Other than these instances, the death penalty will remain, such as for drug kingpins and distributors, said DPM Teo.

Minister for Law K Shanmugam, who spoke after DPM Teo in Parliament, said that in respect of how the mandatory death penalty applies to cases amounting to murder, the Government intends to apply capital punishment only when there is an intention to kill.

Mr Shanmugam said that all accused persons who meet the requirements can choose to be considered for re-sentencing under the new law, once the draft legislation is in place.

Both ministers said, meanwhile, that Singapore still sees the relevance of death penalty to most cases.

 

[Leongsam]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

Other than these instances, the death penalty will remain, such as for drug kingpins and distributors, said DPM Teo.

So Singapore is going to hang these characters the next time they set foot in the little red dot???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Burma#Members_of_Government_of_Burma

 

[Television]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

Good step forward.. But then.. They still hang someone for 500grams of Cannabis.. And that is b.s

 

[The_Hypocrite]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

Good step forward.. But then.. They still hang someone for 500grams of Cannabis.. And that is b.s

This is a fucking stupid move, that is like 10 steps backwards...for cases like mass murderers, serial killers, rapist etc,,,it should be automatic,,,want to give convicted criminals life sentences and feed them forever is it? its bad enough we have to feed the PAP and their Dogs and old fart,,,now got to feed criminals for life,,,this is BS.....

 

[ChewCheng]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

I agree, what a waste of tax-payers money to feed the useless.

This is a fucking stupid move, that is like 10 steps backwards...for cases like mass murderers, serial killers, rapist etc,,,it should be automatic,,,want to give convicted criminals life sentences and feed them forever is it? its bad enough we have to feed the PAP and their Dogs and old fart,,,now got to feed criminals for life,,,this is BS.....

 

[laksaboy]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

Hanging? Some PAP ministers should be burnt at the stake or sent to a firing squad.

 

[Devil Within]

Bloody hell! Innocent law-abiding taxpayers are going to feed these scumbags for life? What a let down!

 

[The_Hypocrite]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

No lah, for PAP ministars and their Dogs,,hanging is the best,,,but use any old rope without the platform,,,it will be a slow torturous death.

For firing squad that is only for military personnel and its a honourable death,,

For burning at the stake,,too much carbon emissions and need too much wood...and air pollution,,,but alternatively, can just throw them into the rubbish incinerator ...garbage get treated like garbage,,,

Hanging? Some PAP ministers should be burnt at the stake or sent to a firing squad.

 

[ray_of_hope]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

An interesting development. But I doubt very much that most Singaporeans support such a change.

 

[Television]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

This is a fucking stupid move, that is like 10 steps backwards...for cases like mass murderers, serial killers, rapist etc,,,it should be automatic,,,want to give convicted criminals life sentences and feed them forever is it? its bad enough we have to feed the PAP and their Dogs and old fart,,,now got to feed criminals for life,,,this is BS.....

"Now got to feed criminals for life" <---as if you get a cent or lose a cent for a person convicted to life sentence. Don't talk about the Money part man, It doesn't make sense to commoners.

I don't agree with any of this changes except for this group of People "has a mental disability that "substantially impairs" his judgment of the gravity of the act."

I also disagree that someone to be hanged for 500grams of cannabis, To hell with the other drugs because they really F. you and society up.. But death for cannabis and relaxation for a courier who brings in Heroin? F THAT SHIT but then Morale and logic thinking kicks in and i would have to say, "Death sentence for all drug offense has to go", because demand fuels supply and with addicts being punished but not being cure/treated(Addicts are patients, they are sick people not criminals) the trade will go on.. Remember that the death sentence is a "Deterrence" to drug kingpins, And we all know None of them is going to get caught, only the low life peasant mules will get the noose and then be replaced tomorrow.

As for murder cases, Truth is.. Nothing has changed so Relax. "the mandatory death penalty applies to cases amounting to murder, the Government intends to apply capital punishment only when there is an intention to kill." <---- Isn't this called manslaughter? And doesn't this charge already has a non capital punishment attached to it??

2 Thoughts, They are either trying to show to the international community that we/they are moving forward and/or they are tweaking the punishment for someone on death row. Either way not much thought/balance or "liberal thinking" has gone into this changes.

P.s Rapist don't get death sentence.

 

[fukyuman]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

Lau Lee envisioned a zero tolerance state. Hang! Hang! And Hang!. Take away discretion from the judge and even the president. Add more and more crimes to mandatory hanging. Cut it down from 3 to 1 judge. And make sure the bugger is hanged in 18 months like his crony Yong Pung Sai did. Old fuck didn't realized we don't live in a time capsule. Society change and so is its attitudes and beliefs in crime and punishment. We have more than 10,000 hard core addicts in prison. These people are never going to change, upon release they will deal in drugs. World is not black and white, judicial executions aka "hanging" & "final solution" work only in backward societies run by religious zealots like Talibans and warlords where there are no rule.

For those who clamor for state executions, why not be more creative instead. How about volunteer euthanasia, I am sure for certain $$$ Changi prisoners will be willing to end their lives and cease to be society burden Or we can put them into ships and go fight somalian pirates. Or put them at Pulau Sudong so our commando boys practise killing them with knives and survive on their liver and hearts.

 

[Television]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

Lau Lee envisioned a zero tolerance state. Hang! Hang! And Hang!. Take away discretion from the judge and even the president. Add more and more crimes to mandatory hanging. Cut it down from 3 to 1 judge. And make sure the bugger is hanged in 18 months like his crony Yong Pung Sai did. Old fuck didn't realized we don't live in a time capsule. Society change and so is its attitudes and beliefs in crime and punishment. We have more than 10,000 hard core addicts in prison. These people are never going to change, upon release they will deal in drugs. World is not black and white, judicial executions aka "hanging" & "final solution" work only in backward societies run by religious zealots like Talibans and warlords where there are no rule.

For those who clamor for state executions, why not be more creative instead. How about volunteer euthanasia, I am sure for certain $$$ Changi prisoners will be willing to end their lives and cease to be society burden Or we can put them into ships and go fight somalian pirates. Or put them at Pulau Sudong so our commando boys practise killing them with knives and survive on their liver and hearts.

Right on man.

 

[Cruxx]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

The ang moh super rich must be delighted. One more reason to relocate to this tax haven and snort as much cocaine as they like.

 

[Cruxx]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

For those who clamor for state executions, why not be more creative instead. How about volunteer euthanasia, I am sure for certain $$$ Changi prisoners will be willing to end their lives and cease to be society burden Or we can put them into ships and go fight somalian pirates. Or put them at Pulau Sudong so our commando boys practise killing them with knives and survive on their liver and hearts.

Why not switch from hanging to more brutal methods like hanging, drawing and quartering or death by a thousand cuts? I'm sure it's gonna deter potential criminals even more. To the Sinkie, there are only good and bad. If you've committed a crime, you're a bad person and any punishment imposed on you would be fair game. Retributive justice is a foreign concept to most Sinkies.

 

[ray_of_hope]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

When it rains, it pours. Seems like M. Ravi has got a few successes over the past few weeks.

An example of perseverance.

 

[Television]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

Why not switch from hanging to more brutal methods like hanging, drawing and quartering or death by a thousand cuts? I'm sure it's gonna deter potential criminals even more. To the Sinkie, there are only good and bad. If you've committed a crime, you're a bad person and any punishment imposed on you would be fair game. Retributive justice is a foreign concept to most Sinkies.

Isn't retributive justice a Sinkie thing?

If my definition of retributive is correct - "An Eye for an Eye type Justice"

 

[Television]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

When it rains, it pours. Seems like M. Ravi has got a few successes over the past few weeks.

An example of perseverance.

A country that spits out so many lawyers but only has 1 human Rights lawyer, Says alot about the society.

 

[Cruxx]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

Isn't retributive justice a Sinkie thing?

If my definition of retributive is correct - "An Eye for an Eye type Justice"

To Sinkies, a criminal is a criminal. Criminals don't deserve sympathy. To mete out punishment proportionate to the crime is to be tolerant of criminality. Sinkies want your heart, lungs and liver for an eye.

 

[johnny333]

Re: Death penalty no longer automatic for some offences: DPM Teo

I bet that the real kingpins responsible for the drug trade are frequent visitors to Spore
Some their children are even attending school in Spore.

These changes will only affect the small fry e.g. mules, users,...