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New Tesla Model 3 v BYD Seal: Ultimate review!
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No polestar? Or avatar? Or greeker 09?
Which moron drives a BYD like a race car. Tesla is ugly like shit. It's game over for Tesla.
Polestar ugly like shit. Geely will just push their Zeekr 007
Subsidy
Japs focusing on hybrid and hydrogen cell. Toyota has given up on EVs.
At this point in time, battery electric seems to be the most popular alternative to fuel. Still opportunity for hydrogen to catch up.
Hydrogen is dead. The infrastructure to setup hydrogen is more expensive than EVs. Cost to produce hydrogen is equivalent to fossils.
And you can't drive into Malaysia.
Japs are trying hard to save their manufacturing industry and workers. Shifting to EVs will kill their economy.
Malaysia will soon start exporting green hydrogen. In two to three years time. What are you talking about.
Export to where? No demand still produce what? Then use fossils to get that hydrogen?
Hydrogen is super expensive to move. Logistics is mind boggling.
Regulations on bulk hydrogen movements are not ready. Nothing is standardized.
Malaysia talk. But doesn't walk
To me, it's really baffling that the Japs have not jumped wholesale into EVs. They have the engineering knowhow, the money for R&D. Now the commies have overtaken them. Unthinkable! Betting on other fuel alternatives could prove a costly mistake. Their dominance in the car market may be over as a result. Remember Betamax vs VHS, Kodak film vs digital photography, the typewriter vs the word processor.
They are trying to save their workforce livelihood.
The need for ICE, provides employment for millions in Japan. That is why they moved into hybrid. They just add on more manufacturing and profit into building cars.
They can make EVs but unemployment will hit the roof.
It's the cradle-to-grave ethic of Japanese keiretsu: employees are expected to commit their entire working lives to a corporation in return for lifelong employment.
Any change in company direction must be evolutionary and managed cautiously to minimise disruption to workforce. Revolutionary transformation with massive retrenchments a la Western management culture is frowned upon.
I can't see how BYD is even close to Tesla it's apples and oranges.
BYD is nothing more than an automotive company which operates on razor thin margins and sells cheap stuff in large quantities for the domestic market only. It's exports form only a small portion of its annual output.
Tesla is an AI company which produces cars, humanoid robots, solar cells/storage. It's biggest earners in 5 to 7 year's time will be robo taxis and robots. Much of it's AI will be linked universally via starlink. It will take years for BYD to catch up if ever.
over my dead body 2 drive a tiong car.
anyone driving a mercs EV, can review?
anyone driving a mercs EV, can review?
OK understood, thanks. And yes, it would seem hybrid is the most viable option for them. With a view to evolve to 100% battery electric in future, I'm sure. Still can't believe the brilliant Japs didn't see this coming decades ago.
Not really. There are off peak power cycles in 24 hr from power plant, using the off peak to produ e hydrogen can be very viable
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