Indeed, its very perplexing. You'll think that 10-20min after losing radar contact they would immediately scramble fighter jets just to see what is happening. Even if the plane has flown off course/hijacked, the fighter jets would be able to at least have a ping/chase after it to ascertain what is happening. I suppose the RMAF is not as cracked up to be then.
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Mudland no air defence, still using WWII radar.
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Y wuld SG send signal to mudland abt a wayward aircraft far fr our borders ? I dun think our coverage reach that far anyways ,
Incident happen on 8 mar what day is that ? It's a sat n women's day - all the big brass who is manning the station all either screwing or half drunk - complacency
Incident happen on 8 mar what day is that ? It's a sat n women's day - all the big brass who is manning the station all either screwing or half drunk - complacency
we have Gulfstream AEW and still have E2C AEW (but being phased out)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Singapore_Air_Force#Fixed-wing_aircraft
but then again... aircraft not in our immediate airspace or threat vector, I guess they bo chup.
However, they should still be able to rewind past data and see what happened to MH370... all this is very very fishy.
u2 max speed is only 805 km/h but very few plane can fly at that altitude.
Malaysian radar is the only one which detected it.
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/m...-saw-mh370-on-radars-neighbours-tell-malaysia
According to the Wall Street Journal yesterday, Indonesia said its two radar stations in the Aceh province, nearest to where Malaysia lost sight of the Boeing 777-200ER carrying 239 people in the Straits of Malacca, found no indication of the aircraft.
“Malaysia said their radar detected [an object] near Pulau Perak, and then it disappeared.
“Had the plane entered Indonesian territory, the two radars must have detected it,” First Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto of the Indonesian air force told the WSJ.
Thailand and Myanmar also delivered equally bad news.
Royal Thai Air Force and the state-owned Aeronautical Radio of Thailand both said they found nothing to show that MH370 had entered the country’s airspace.
Myanmar’s Department of Civil Aviation said its three radars saw no data plots that might have been the missing plane.
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/m...-saw-mh370-on-radars-neighbours-tell-malaysia
According to the Wall Street Journal yesterday, Indonesia said its two radar stations in the Aceh province, nearest to where Malaysia lost sight of the Boeing 777-200ER carrying 239 people in the Straits of Malacca, found no indication of the aircraft.
“Malaysia said their radar detected [an object] near Pulau Perak, and then it disappeared.
“Had the plane entered Indonesian territory, the two radars must have detected it,” First Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto of the Indonesian air force told the WSJ.
Thailand and Myanmar also delivered equally bad news.
Royal Thai Air Force and the state-owned Aeronautical Radio of Thailand both said they found nothing to show that MH370 had entered the country’s airspace.
Myanmar’s Department of Civil Aviation said its three radars saw no data plots that might have been the missing plane.
Not surprised, Golden Period
"It's possible that the military radars were switched off as we operate on an 'as required' basis."
"In some cases, they are simply switched off except during training and when a threat is expected."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/15/us-malaysia-airlines-defence-idUSBREA2E0JT20140315
The reality, analysts and officials say, is that much of the airspace over water - and in many cases over land - lacks sophisticated or properly monitored radar coverage.
Analysts say the gaps in Southeast Asia's air defenses are likely to be mirrored in other parts of the developing world, and may be much greater in areas with considerably lower geopolitical tensions.
"Several nations will be embarrassed by how easy it is to trespass their airspace," said Air Vice Marshal Michael Harwood, a retired British Royal Air Force pilot and ex-defense attache to Washington DC. "Too many movies and Predator (unmanned military drone) feeds from Afghanistan have suckered people into thinking we know everything and see everything. You get what you pay for. And the world, by and large, does not pay."
"It's possible that the military radars were switched off as we operate on an 'as required' basis."
"In some cases, they are simply switched off except during training and when a threat is expected."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/15/us-malaysia-airlines-defence-idUSBREA2E0JT20140315
The reality, analysts and officials say, is that much of the airspace over water - and in many cases over land - lacks sophisticated or properly monitored radar coverage.
Analysts say the gaps in Southeast Asia's air defenses are likely to be mirrored in other parts of the developing world, and may be much greater in areas with considerably lower geopolitical tensions.
"Several nations will be embarrassed by how easy it is to trespass their airspace," said Air Vice Marshal Michael Harwood, a retired British Royal Air Force pilot and ex-defense attache to Washington DC. "Too many movies and Predator (unmanned military drone) feeds from Afghanistan have suckered people into thinking we know everything and see everything. You get what you pay for. And the world, by and large, does not pay."
If it flew into Indian mainland/Pakistani airspace, for sure it will be intercepted.
It is too hard to believe it can bypass thai,myanmar, indian, pakistani and possibly afghanistani airspace. USA operates bagram in afghanistan.
Australia's JORN OTH radar once detected missile tests in China 5500km away But they have not said anything as well. I think they have nothing on their screens.
The RSAF's early warning umbrella stretches past West Malaysia because if it did not, it will be useless against supersonic threats. This is not to say that they would react to anything that moves, but it does mean that they probably have tracked MH370 and have data on it.
And the RSAF have look up (ground-based) as well as look down (AEW) capabilities. Also, I do believe the RSAF has totally replaced the E2Cs with the Gulfstream.
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/re...news/2012/apr/13apr12_news2.html#.UyZjuq2SwQ8
And the RSAF have look up (ground-based) as well as look down (AEW) capabilities. Also, I do believe the RSAF has totally replaced the E2Cs with the Gulfstream.
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/re...news/2012/apr/13apr12_news2.html#.UyZjuq2SwQ8
Dumbfuck opposition supporting retard. RSAF have proven record of being able to track and respond to possible hostile planes
http://johnislam.blogspot.in/2014/03/lam-day-when-2-australians-shut-down.html
It may have picked up a commercial jet and ignore the "plot"
As for OZ, they stay silent. Military sensitivity or Aussie asleep.
Strategic radar systems in service in Australia
(the J.O.R.N.), which can span nearly intercontinental ranges and even detect and classify radar contacts. The system itself was built as a land-based early warning and detection system.
The JORN network is operated by No. 1 Radar Surveillance Unit RAAF (1RSU). Data from the JORN sites is fed to the JORN Coordination Centre at RAAF Base Edinburgh where it is passed on to other agencies and military units. Officially the system allows the Australian Defence Force to observe all air and sea activity north of Australia to distances of 3000 km. This encompasses all of Java, Irian Jaya, Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands, and halfway across the Indian Ocean. Other sources put the range at 4000 km from the Australian coastline, as far away as Singapore.
The JORN is so sensitive it is able to track planes as small as a Cessna 172 taking off and landing in East Timor 2600 km away. Current research is anticipated to increase its sensitivity by a factor of ten beyond this level. It is also reportedly able to detect stealth aircraft, as typically these are designed only to avoid detection by microwave radar.
Thanks for the post.
"At 6.42pm (2142 AEDT), two Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) F-16 fighters were scrambled to intercept a civilian aircraft, a Cessna 208, which was heading towards Singapore airspace without an approved flight plan,'' the ministry's director of public affairs, Colonel Darius Lim, said in a statement. "The aircraft was escorted to land at Singapore Changi Airport."
The above incident highlights the standard operating protocol an Air Force, Civil Aviation Authority and Local Police Force needs to follow in the event of an unidentified aircraft entering it's airspace without an approved flight plan.
However amidst this hoo-ha, there was one small detail worth noting. The plane took off from Koh Samui, Thailand. And running the full length between Thailand and Singapore is the land mass of Peninsular Malaysia.
In essence, this means that the Department of Civil Aviation of Malaysia and the Royal Malaysian Air Force had allowed an unknown aircraft to invade over 131 thousand square km of sovereign Malaysian territory and despite this occurring over a period of 3 hours, did not lift a finger to respond.
This incident highlighted a huge security flaw in Malaysia's Air Defence umbrella. One that if it had patched during any of the subsequent 6 years that followed, would have prevented a bigger tragedy that came with greater embarrassment, scrutiny and loss.
6 years later on 8 March 2014, Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 departed Kuala Lumpar International Airport for Beijing. It never landed at it's intended destination. Instead, less than an hour after take off, the transponder was turned off and 3 sets of military radars tracked the plane flying past Penang and across the breadth of Malaysia from the Gulf of Thailand towards the Indian Ocean.
Unlike the Cessna airplane in the earlier example which was intercepted by the RSAF, 3 sets of people manning Malaysia's military radars never sounded any alarms. The RMAF never dispatched any fighter jets on standby and the Department of Civil Aviation of Malaysia never shut down Malaysian airspace when a rogue plane very much larger than a Cessna aircraft flew across it's airspace.
Suffice to say, had the Department of Civil Aviation of Malaysia or the RMAF been doing their job properly as exemplified by the example given above, we would not have gone 9 days and counting into a search for a missing and possibly hijacked plane.
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moni 2 buy new radars oredi gone in2 u noe who's pockets ...
Old equipment OK to use as long as it works fine. Plenty of spare parts and old technicians can fix the equipment full on.
New technologies from West are useless.
Keep upgrading and updating wasting money and end up keep fixing new problems one after another.
Then have to shut down system and down time to fix problems and what to do when during that shut down time things happen?
New technologies from West are useless.
Keep upgrading and updating wasting money and end up keep fixing new problems one after another.
Then have to shut down system and down time to fix problems and what to do when during that shut down time things happen?
Consider what u are saying. Where would these supersonic threats come from? Is this myth or reality? We agree that the only form that a supersonic threat can take is that of a military fighter jet, more precisely a fast jet. Right? Supersonic threat coming from Thailand? If so, we better not be giving them free F-16 Block 15s, or they will fly that shit against us. LOL. Myanmar? Their F-7, A-5 (not supersonic), and Mig-29 do not have the legs to get here, unless they are on a one way suicide mission. A jet fighter from the US Navy carrier group? why would they attack us? Fighters from Vietnam? No legs either without inflight refuelling. In other words, there is no scenario under any case for a supersonic threat from beyond Malaysia.
They did. They already said boh. Myanmar also saying nothing.
Missiles are often supersonic too, and they could come from state, state-backed or non-state players. I am not saying the threat is imminent, just possible. I'm also saying that I believe we have the technical capability of spotting such threats.
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Myanmar probably has no radar.
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