Mudland no air defence, still using WWII radar.

[neddy]

The MH370 incident showed up another Mudland military defense loophole.
The RMAF only have radars left behind by the British.

The MH370 left the military rader screen at South Chin a Sea, it then made an unexpected turnaround.
And re entered malaysia air space.

why is it that when an UFO entered the country airspace, they are unable to identify the plane or whether it is friendly or spy.

How come no aircraft sent to intercept the possible intruder ?

What if the unidentified plane head for the twin towers in KL?

In more developed air space environments like North America and Europe, a constant monitoring is undertaken. And there is close co-operation between military and civilian air traffic controllers.

So, if military radar operators spot an unidentified contact, normal procedure would be to check with their civilian counterparts as to whether there is a transponder reading for identification.

If not, there would be an attempt to contact the plane by radio and, again if there is no response, ultimately to scramble fighters.

These are all procedures that have been long established, were regularly exercised during the Cold War, and have been refined since 9/11.

Of course, all radar surveillance has its weak spots. Tracking aircraft flying at low level, for example, is always challenging.

And even the most sophisticated systems can be caught off-guard by the unexpected

 

[zhihau]

The RMAF only have radars left behind by the British.

why the need to spend so much on radar when they have their very own Raja Bomoh?

 

[HTOLAS]

I'm quite sure the RSAF, with both their ground and airborne radars would have tracked this. But I'm not sure the RSAF would be willing to reveal the information.

 

[neddy]

why the need to spend so much on radar when they have their very own Raja Bomoh?

How much does it cost to hire the double coconut show ? In case my dog ran away again and gone missing?

An unidentified plane that re enter malaysian air space without anyone knowing. Time to shoot coconuts.

 

[steffychun]

The MH370 incident showed up another Mudland military defense loophole.
The RMAF only have radars left behind by the British.

The MH370 left the military rader screen at South Chin a Sea, it then made an unexpected turnaround.
And re entered malaysia air space.

why is it that when an UFO entered the country airspace, they are unable to identify the plane or whether it is friendly or spy.

How come no aircraft sent to intercept the possible intruder ?

What if the unidentified plane head for the twin towers in KL?

In more developed air space environments like North America and Europe, a constant monitoring is undertaken. And there is close co-operation between military and civilian air traffic controllers.

So, if military radar operators spot an unidentified contact, normal procedure would be to check with their civilian counterparts as to whether there is a transponder reading for identification.

If not, there would be an attempt to contact the plane by radio and, again if there is no response, ultimately to scramble fighters.

These are all procedures that have been long established, were regularly exercised during the Cold War, and have been refined since 9/11.

Of course, all radar surveillance has its weak spots. Tracking aircraft flying at low level, for example, is always challenging.

And even the most sophisticated systems can be caught off-guard by the unexpected

It is not left over, it is where the radar is placed and what altitude and position the plane is. Radar, old or new is still useless on the ground.

 

[steffychun]

I'm quite sure the RSAF, with both their ground and airborne radars would have tracked this. But I'm not sure the RSAF would be willing to reveal the information.

Police cannot even stop riot RSAF can track?

 

[GoldenPeriod]

If I read correctly, it was in fact inside Thai air space, not Malaysian air space when it was tracked by Malaysian radar. If the flight path is not plotted to be on route to a Malaysian city, then there is no reason to scramble. Also from what I understand, there are very few Thai military radars in the south of Thailand, so they also bo chup.

Another thing is five powers defence arrangement has Integrated Air Defence System (IADS) for Peninsular Malaysia and Singapore based at RMAF Butterworth, Penang under the command of an Australian Air Vice-Marshal (2-star). The UK has the following personnel based in Malaysia HQ IADS- one Wing Commander, one Squadron Leader, one Lieutenant Commander, one Major. How come they also gong gong bo chup?

Then Indons say their radar at Acheh which reaches all of Peninsula malaysia said, no record of such aircraft.

Don't blame the malaysians, there's more than meets the eye here.

 

[steffychun]

If I read correctly, it was in fact inside Thai air space, not Malaysian air space when it was tracked by Malaysian radar. If the flight path is not plotted to be on route to a Malaysian city, then there is no reason to scramble. Also from what I understand, there are very few Thai military radars in the south of Thailand, so they also bo chup.

Another thing is five powers defence arrangement has Integrated Air Defence System (IADS) for Peninsular Malaysia and Singapore based at RMAF Butterworth, Penang under the command of an Australian Air Vice-Marshal (2-star). How come they also gong gong bo chup?

Then Indons say their radar at Acheh which reaches all of Peninsula malaysia said, no record of such aircraft.

There's more than meets the eye here.

FPDA is a giant in slumberland. It is only active during exercises. Otherwise, why spend money guarding Malaysia and Singapore?

 

[neddy]

Another thing is five powers defence arrangement has Integrated Air Defence System (IADS) for Peninsular Malaysia and Singapore based at RMAF Butterworth, Penang under the command of an Australian Air Vice-Marshal (2-star). How come they also gong gong bo chup?

Then Indons say their radar at Acheh which reaches all of Peninsula malaysia said, no record of such aircraft.

There's more than meets the eye here.

IADS for wartime only. RMAF Butterworth is quoted by the Brits to be using WWII radar. Kota Bahru also using outdated radar.

 

[GoldenPeriod]

IADS for wartime only. RMAF Butterworth is quoted by the Brits to be using WWII radar.

So what if it's WWII radar? In 1960, Soviet WWII radar tracked U-2 flying at 70,000 feet over Soviet territory and shot it down.

 

[neddy]

So what if it's WWII radar? In 1960, Soviet WWII radar tracked U-2 flying at 70,000 feet over Soviet territory and shot it down.

Pearl harbour. Zero fighters mistaken as friendly B 17 bombers.

Cold war, radar ops know the speed of U2. Identifible.

 

[sochi2014]

The hijacked MAS plane also showed a loophole in Singapore defence system. How can SGP air defense system not have sent out a warning to the Malaysian authorities when an unidentified aircraft is flying in the Malaysian airspace? Remember we are suppose to have those early warning airborne aircrafts like the E2C hawkeyes supposed to scan the sky 24*7? This must have all been a conspiracy at the highest level.

 

[steffychun]

IADS for wartime only. RMAF Butterworth is quoted by the Brits to be using WWII radar. Kota Bahru also using outdated radar.

RAMF Butterworth technically is an airfield, not a major radar system. Can't blame them. Civilian radar is stronger.

 

[steffychun]

The hijacked MAS plane also showed a loophole in Singapore defence system. How can SGP air defense system not have sent out a warning to the Malaysian authorities when an unidentified aircraft is flying in the Malaysian airspace? Remember we are suppose to have those early warning airborne aircrafts like the E2C hawkeyes supposed to scan the sky 24*7? This must have all been a conspiracy at the highest level.

friend there are no more E2Cs in the RSAF.

 

[Jlokta]

I'm quite sure the RSAF, with both their ground and airborne radars would have tracked this. But I'm not sure the RSAF would be willing to reveal the information.

Plane not within radar range.

In anycase, its too far away from the red dot, they won't bother to identify.

Police cannot even stop riot RSAF can track?

Yes unfortunately. RSAF spent a huge bulk of your tax money to make sure they have this capability to track.

 

[Jlokta]

The hijacked MAS plane also showed a loophole in Singapore defence system. How can SGP air defense system not have sent out a warning to the Malaysian authorities when an unidentified aircraft is flying in the Malaysian airspace? Remember we are suppose to have those early warning airborne aircrafts like the E2C hawkeyes supposed to scan the sky 24*7? This must have all been a conspiracy at the highest level.

Sinkie radar won't do shit until the UFO approaches the red dot.

We have the capability to ID and intercept before the UFO enters our airspace.

 

[zhihau]

We have the capability to ID and intercept before the UFO enters our airspace.

this cannot be true! our captain Goh saw UFO in Singapore before you know?

 

[Cerebral]

The hijacked MAS plane also showed a loophole in Singapore defence system. How can SGP air defense system not have sent out a warning to the Malaysian authorities when an unidentified aircraft is flying in the Malaysian airspace? Remember we are suppose to have those early warning airborne aircrafts like the E2C hawkeyes supposed to scan the sky 24*7? This must have all been a conspiracy at the highest level.

E2 is not perpetually up and the incident happen at kuantan. Want to make a guess how far that is? It is also under Malaysian airspace.

 

[Jlokta]

this cannot be true! our captain Goh saw UFO in Singapore before you know?

Got More Shit probably got his head stuck up in someone's ass lah.

 

[steffychun]

One missile strike and Sinkie land will fall. Don't need to think about radar.