MHA: Singapore to keep the Internal Security Act

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The problem is Singaporeans don't protest like the Malaysians, they rather go shopping than walking down the streets to protest.

ISA relevant to S'pore, crucial for national security: MHA
By Imelda Saad | Posted: 16 September 2011

SINGAPORE : Singapore's Home Affairs Ministry has said the Internal Security Act (ISA) continues to be relevant and crucial as a measure of last resort for the preservation of national security.

It said this on Friday in response to queries from the media, after Malaysia announced the abolition of the ISA on Thursday.

The Home Affairs Ministry said that Singapore and Malaysia are different, even though the ISA has the same roots for when both countries were British colonies.

It said the respective societies have evolved. Even the Act itself has evolved.

For example, a person arrested under the ISA in Singapore may be held in custody for up to 30 days, after which a Detention or Restriction Order must be issued or else the person must be released unconditionally.

In Malaysia, the period of custody is double - up to 60 days.

In addition, in Singapore, the President can veto the government's decision.

The ministry added that Singapore has used the ISA sparingly. It said no one has ever been detained only for their political beliefs.

The ISA has been used to deal with threats of subversion, racial and religious extremism, espionage and terrorism, and these threats continue to be salient today, the ministry said.

It added that the ISA was used effectively in 2001 to thwart the imminent suicide bombings planned by Al-Qaeda and Jemaah Islamiyah.

Like Malaysia, there have been calls among certain quarters in Singapore to abolish the ISA. They include civil liberty groups and political parties, who argue the law has lost its relevance.

However, one terrorism expert MediaCorp spoke to said it is "foolish" of Malaysia to abolish the ISA.

Dr Rohan Gunaratna, from the International Centre for Political Violence and Research, said: "Today, there are only two countries in Southeast Asia that have been severely threatened by terrorism, but have prevented terrorist attacks. One is Malaysia and the other is Singapore.

"So ISA is an invaluable tool to preventively detain terrorist suspects to investigate and also to confine them. If this important piece of law is taken out of the equation, it will not benefit governments to fight terrorism effectively.

Dr Rohan added that there is a heightened threat of terror in the region now, so it is important to keep the ISA until such threats diminish.

Meanwhile, Singapore's opposition Workers' Party, which had called for the abolition of the ISA in its election manifesto, said that even with such a move, there should be effective measures against terrorism.

In a posting on its Facebook page, it repeated its call for a dedicated anti-terrorism law to make swift arrests and detain suspects without trial.

But these suspects must be afforded real avenues to challenge the legality of their arrests through the courts and an advisory board, said the party.

- CNA/ms
 
They will change their mind about ISA AFTER they lose power next time! This is already proven, PAP will go all out to fight against ISA when it is the opposition party but had turned around not only to support it but to abuse it when it became the ruling party.

Goh Meng Seng
 
Keep it and use it against them when they lose their power!
 
The name ISA will continue to be a stain. Looks like Najib is smarter than this guy. Do the changes, bring in the checks and balances and you still get to keep the crazies under detention.

Gone are the days that they can put people like Francis Seow and the Marxist Conspiracy chaps under detention.


They will change their mind about ISA AFTER they lose power next time! This is already proven, PAP will go all out to fight against ISA when it is the opposition party but had turned around not only to support it but to abuse it when it became the ruling party.

Goh Meng Seng
 
Abolished ISA and PAP (LKY) will lose the respect of the citizens.
LKY prefered to be feared though.
 
Abolished ISA and PAP (LKY) will lose the respect of the citizens.
LKY prefered to be feared though.

It's the old fart's hatchet and the papzis needs it to hold on to the throne. But nothing last forever, it's an evil tool, either they get rid of it or it will be destroyed sooner or later whether they like it or not.:D
 
I grow weary listening the chorus of voices calling for its abolishment. That is nothing more than political posturing by all parties concerned. Don't understand why critics can't think outside the box, maybe i'm just not following the arguments. Is a compromise truly impossible without abolishing the Act?

Personally I am in slightly favour of the ISA as a pre-emptive tool against threats, but concerned with possible abuses that come with inflicting punishment without sufficient evidence. If we are concerned with possible abuse of the ISA, will it not be better to re-examine the process so that political detainees (or any other detainees) are unlikely to be detained indefinitely without trial? Or mistreated during the detainment? Though we have some controls in place already, it is unquestionable that the PAPzis exert undue influence on the existing process and can abuse the process if they choose to. That doesn't mean I should automatically support a complete abolishment without exploring some sort of replacement mechanism to deal with the Act's original purpose and intention.

Should not expect too much from political aspirants, but MPs from both sides of the divide I am less forgiving.
(Correction: WP supports ISA with reservations)
 
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America stilll keeps its Patriot Act and imprisons people without trial in Guantanamo Bay (Outside the US). So who is America or the West to criticise other nations? Not that the ISA should be kept, but look what "democratic" and "free" countries have been enacting.
 
They will change their mind about ISA AFTER they lose power next time! This is already proven, PAP will go all out to fight against ISA when it is the opposition party but had turned around not only to support it but to abuse it when it became the ruling party.

Goh Meng Seng

ISA is a must. Otherwise, how to detain people up to no good without trial? Some people up to no good have to be detained without trial for certain period. Otherwise, how to catch more people up to no good and ensure security for the innocent public? Even US (Patriot Act) and UK (Terrorism Act) have implemented the same except the name. I'd agree the name ISA is getting politically incorrect with political abuses from the past. Yes, I agree there were abuses. I'd suggest a change of name and amendment to introduce more safeguards against political abuses.
 
ISA is a must. Otherwise, how to detain people up to no good without trial? Some people up to no good have to be detained without trial for certain period. Otherwise, how to catch more people up to no good and ensure security for the innocent public? Even US (Patriot Act) and UK (Terrorism Act) have implemented the same except the name. I'd agree the name ISA is getting politically incorrect with political abuses from the past. Yes, I agree there were abuses. I'd suggest a change of name and amendment to introduce more safeguards against political abuses.

How long is that a period of time? 23 years? ;)

Patriot Act and Terrorism Act are totally different from ISA and that is precisely why Malaysia is replacing ISA with Terrorism Act.

Goh Meng Seng
 
How long is that a period of time? 23 years? ;)

Patriot Act and Terrorism Act are totally different from ISA and that is precisely why Malaysia is replacing ISA with Terrorism Act.

Goh Meng Seng

That's what I meant by abuses, that's what I meant by change of name with more safeguards against abuses.
 
What does govt get in return if they do so? Would only embolden opposition, liberals.. but get nothing in return. Illogical for them to give in to this at this time... maybe later on before election.

M'sia is in a different situation - polls coming, Najib in precarious position, riots, much stronger opposition, need to be popular.

Instructive how quickly MHA came out to clarify. Think we're in for some hardball with govt unyielding on anything that would give opposition a "win" for a while, now that GE and PE are over.
 
Of Course ! They Want To Rule You With Force

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Vincent Cheng's historic speech at SDP's Pre-Election Rally

Malaysia opens up. When will Singapore?




The Malaysian Government took a decisive step towards democracy when Prime Minister Najib Razak announced that the notorious Internal Security Act would be repealed and laws restricting freedom of assembly would be changed to meet international standards.

This development is significant because the ISA and other anti-democratic laws are shared by Malaysia and Singapore. They were devised by the British during colonial rule to detain without trial independence fighters.

The ISA has since been repeatedly used by both the PAP and Barisan Nasional to imprison opposition leaders, trade unionists, journalists, and student activists who have opposed their rule.




I re-wrote my post above in such a way that it would be relevant to PAP ears, and then posted it on K Shanmugam's wall. It has been deleted, and as is typical, I have been banned from posting again.

Not that it is surprising, but the PAP sure has some very warped ideas about what "engaging Singaporeans online" means.


Don't justify the used of ISA for the combat of terrorism
Don't used Terrorist as a bogeyman to keep ISA alive
In Malaysian, don't you hide behind the tree of ISA, to jail diffcult politicans
There are no One Size Fit All, magic formula
Communism is not Terrorism, they had different fundings, different goals, different outlook, different movtiation, they are not an army, not a country, different market forces, different ideology, more like ghost enemy that melted into the society, in sleeping cells, working independencely
Introduce Partiot Act to combats terrorist networks
ISA is not compatiable to fight against modern terrorist, period
 
najib not dumb, but malaysians and locals who fall for his pre-election spin are. he is just going to replace the isa with other draconian laws. i thought many sgporeans are cynics?
 
How long is that a period of time? 23 years? ;)

Patriot Act and Terrorism Act are totally different from ISA and that is precisely why Malaysia is replacing ISA with Terrorism Act.

Goh Meng Seng

yah, patriot act is different. detained in guantanamo if sway.
 
i think the oral sex act has higher chance of being abolished than ISA.

I personally think ISA is needed...look at Indon, fucking terror head dancing around n they are limp dick to do anything about it. Even they know he is the mastermind of bali attack, embassy attack, they say sorry cannot do anything becos that time no terror act.

yes, ISA has loopholes, even MSK can escape from ISD...

If ISA is indeed against people with opposing political thinking, CSJ and LTK would have long gone in to squat.
 
The problem is Singaporeans don't protest like the Malaysians, they rather go shopping than walking down the streets to protest.

Other country people no money to make, very free. Our country people busy making money, very no free. :D
 
i think the oral sex act has higher chance of being abolished than ISA.

I personally think ISA is needed...look at Indon, fucking terror head dancing around n they are limp dick to do anything about it. Even they know he is the mastermind of bali attack, embassy attack, they say sorry cannot do anything becos that time no terror act.

yes, ISA has loopholes, even MSK can escape from ISD...

If ISA is indeed against people with opposing political thinking, CSJ and LTK would have long gone in to squat.

for opposition, it is defamation. not isa. pap not dumb enough to try use isa now.
 
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