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Donald Trump rejects calls for rule changes in next presidential debate with Joe Biden
Posted 13 hours ago, updated11 hours ago

Donald Trump and Joe Biden trade insults in first US presidential debate.
US President Donald Trump has rejected calls to tweak the rules of his next two presidential candidate debates with Democratic challenger Joe Biden after a first match-up was marred by constant interruptions and outbursts.

But his campaign said it was still planning to turn up.

Key points:
Donald Trump claims to have won the first of three debates against Joe Biden
Campaign officials did not respond to a question about whether Mr Trump would agree to abide by the existing rules
Mr Biden leads Mr Trump in most national public opinion polls but the two are neck and neck in several states that could determine the winner
"Why would I allow the Debate Commission to change the rules for the second and third Debates when I easily won last time?" Mr Trump asked in a tweet on Thursday (local time).

On a call with reporters, Mr Trump's campaign also said it did not want changes to the debates.

"We're ready to move on to the second and third debates," campaign communications strategist Jason Miller said.

Campaign officials did not respond to a question about whether Mr Trump would agree to abide by the existing rules.

The moderator of Wednesday's debate, Fox News's Chris Wallace, interrupted proceedings several times to ask the President to follow the rules.

Reflecting on the event on Fox News, Mr Wallace said the President "bears the primary responsibility for what happened".

Biden isn't backing away from the debates either
Despite questions from pundits in the immediate aftermath of the debate, Joe Biden's campaign has confirmed multiple times that the Democratic nominee intends to show up at the remaining debates.

Mr Biden's campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said the former vice-president would participate in upcoming debates under the rules laid out by the debates commission.

"The only real question left is whether the President will start following the rules in the next two debates," Mr Bates said in an email.

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden hurled his fair share of insults at America's current leader during the first election debate.(Reuters: Brian Snyder)
Both candidates' campaigns agreed to the rules of Wednesday's debate, which had envisioned six 15-minute sections in which each candidate had two minutes to answer a question without interruption before beginning a back-and-forth.

In a statement the day after the event, the debates commission said it would announce changes to the debate format soon.

The Commission on Presidential Debates said it would adopt changes to allow for a "more orderly discussion", but did not say what specific changes it was considering. There was immediate speculation changes could include introducing a mute button to limit interruptions.

At the top of their wish list was a fourth debate, scheduled in September. The campaign argued that with the pandemic forcing more voters than ever to vote early, a September debate would allow them to hear from the candidates before ballots were cast.

The letter, from Mr Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, also included a list of 24 suggested moderators.

Responding the the letter, the commission rejected the request for an extra debate and said it would follow "our longstanding procedure of selecting debate moderators".

"The commission has found that three 90-minute debates work well to fulfill the voter education purposes the debates are intended to serve," it said.

The next presidential debate is scheduled for October 15 in Miami, Florida, ahead of the November 3 election.

It will be a town hall style format, with questions asked by undecided voters rather than a single moderator.

The single vice-presidential debate of the campaign will be held next Thursday AEST.

There have been no requests for changes to the debate between Vice-President Mike Pence and Democratic vice-presidential nominee Kamala Harris, which is scheduled to follow a similar format to the first presidential debate.

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The next presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden will have new rules to aid 'orderly discussion'

Posted Yesterday at 12:21pm, updated Yesterday at 9:35pm
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The Donald Trump and Joe Biden campaigns have confirmed the candidates will appear at round two of the presidential election debates as the independent body responsible said it would look to change the format.
It comes as Wednesday's fierce debate was labelled "the worst presidential debate ever", filled with personal attacks and interjections.
Criticism and calls for change started rolling in before the first debate even ended, with the suggestion of a "mute button" gaining traction on social media.
Here's what we know about potential changes, and what's coming up for debate number two.
'Additional structure should be added', CPD says
The Commission on Presidential Debates released a statement on Wednesday, saying the events are for the benefit of Americans.
"Last night's debate made clear that additional structure should be added to the format of the remaining debates to ensure a more orderly discussion of the issues," the statement read.
"The CPD will be carefully considering the changes that it will adopt and will announce those measures shortly.
"The Commission is grateful to Chris Wallace for the professionalism and skill he brought to last night's debate and intends to ensure that additional tools to maintain order are in place for the remaining debates."
The CPD hasn't specified yet what the changes will be.
The 90-minute debate on Tuesday night has been described as chaotic and a "s***show" with constant interruptions and candidates straying away from the questions asked.
Biden suggested the use of a mute button while speaking at a campaign stop on Wednesday, saying he hoped organisers of future debates would be able to turn off the microphone of the candidate who is not speaking.
"It was a national embarrassment," Biden said of the debate and Trump's performance.
"I am not going to speculate what happens at the second or third debate."
The mute button idea quickly gained traction on social media during and after the event.



Speaking at a campaign rally in Minnesota on Wednesday. the President didn't talk about the CPD's statement or any potential format changes.
More than 73 million people watched the first debate on TV according to Nielsen, more than any other television event since the 2020 Super Bowl.
It didn't meet the same ratings as the first debate between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in 2016, which attracted an audience of 84 million.
Trump and media criticise Wallace's efforts
Trump took to Twitter soon after the debate.
"Chris had a tough night," Trump tweeted in reference to moderator Chris Wallace, a Fox News anchor.
"Two on one was not surprising, but fun."
But ABC News America's Martha Raddatz said Wallace was put in nearly an impossible situation.
Raddatz, who moderated one of the debates between Trump and Clinton in 2016, said she might have called a full stop to the debate for a moment to recalibrate if she was faced with the same behaviour.
The first presidential debate went so badly, some asked if it should be the last
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"To say 'He's not going to follow the rules so we aren't, either', it's an unprecedented situation," Raddatz said.
"That was so out of control."
Fox News reporter Geraldo Rivera said any criticism of Wallace was "misplaced."
"The guy signed up to moderate a debate and he ended up trying to referee a knife fight," he said.
Wallace told the New York Times on Wednesday that the proceedings were "a terrible missed opportunity."
"I’m just sad with the way last night turned out," he told the publication.
"I never dreamt that it would go off the tracks the way it did."
What do we know about the next debate?
The second presidential debate will be held in Miami on October 15 (local time).
It will be moderated by Steve Scully, the senior executive producer and political editor for US TV network C-SPAN.
Scully has provided minimal comment on the first debate or what's expected from the second, but he told Pennsylvania's Erie News Now that he's "looking forward to it".
It will be his first presidential debate moderation.
The second debate will be in a town hall format, allowing audience members to ask their own questions.
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WATCH: Mike Pence, Kamala Harris clash over Trump's coronavirus record at US vice presidential debate
Vice President Mike Pence takes notes as Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., answers a question during the vice presidential debate Wednesday, Oct. 7, 2020, at Kingsbury Hall on the campus of the University of Utah in Salt Lake City. (AP Photo/Morry Gash, Pool)
08 Oct 2020 08:08AM
(Updated: 08 Oct 2020 11:26AM)
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SALT LAKE CITY: Republican Mike Pence and Democratic challenger Kamala Harris squared off on Thursday (Oct 8) morning Singapore time in the only vice presidential debate ahead of the Nov 3 US election.
Pence and Harris clashed over the Trump administration's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic during their debate, as the White House struggled to contain an outbreak that has infected President Donald Trump and dozens of others.
The policy-heavy debate stood in stark contrast to last week's chaotic presidential debate, with Harris going on the attack on topics from healthcare to the economy, climate change and foreign policy, and Pence defending the Republican administration's nearly four-year-old record.
"The American people have witnessed what is the greatest failure of any presidential administration in the history of our country," Harris said as the debate began at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City.
In response, Pence defended the US administration's efforts to battle the disease, including Trump's decision in late January to restrict travel from the pandemic's epicentre in China.
"I want the American people to know that from the very first day, President Donald Trump has put the health of America first," he said.
READ: 'Symptom-free' Trump back in Oval Office, says catching COVID-19 was 'blessing from God'
The two candidates were separated by plexiglass shields, a reminder of the pandemic that has claimed 210,000 American lives and devastated the economy.
Harris played the traditional attack role of the vice presidential candidate, faulting the Trump administration for trying to invalidate the Affordable Care Act healthcare law in the midst of a pandemic and assailing Trump for reportedly paying US$750 a year in federal income taxes as president.
"When I first heard about it, I literally said, 'You mean US$750,000?'" Harris said, referring to a New York Times investigation. "And it was like, 'No - US$750'."

TAX BATTLE
Pence sought to counter her attacks by turning the focus to the economy and tax policy, saying: "On day one, Joe Biden's going to raise your taxes." Harris responded by saying that Biden has vowed not to raise taxes on anyone making less than US$400,000 a year.
The vice president also asserted that Biden would ban fracking and embrace the Green New Deal, a massive environmental proposal backed by liberal Democrats. Biden, however, has disavowed both of those positions.
As in the presidential showdown last week, Wednesday's debate was dominated by discussion of the pandemic and the resulting economic downturn.
Asked about a potential vaccine, Harris said she would only trust the word of scientists, rather than that of Trump, who has promoted unproven treatments in the past.
"If the doctors tell us that we should take it, I'll be the first in line to take it, absolutely," she said. "But if Donald Trump tells us to take it, I'm not taking it."
Pence fired back, accusing Harris of undermining public confidence in vaccines.
"I think it is unconscionable," he said. "Stop playing politics with people's lives."
READ: Biden says next US presidential debate should be called off if Trump still has COVID-19
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Harris, the first black woman to serve on a major-party presidential ticket, also attacked Pence on race relations, criticising Trump for turning down an opportunity to denounce white supremacists at last week's debate with Biden.
In response, Pence accused the media of taking Trump's words out of context and said the president had repeatedly disavowed racist groups.
The age of the two presidential candidates - either Trump, 74, or Biden, 77, would be the oldest president in US history - added weight to the debate, with both Pence and Harris seeking to show they were capable of assuming the office. Trump's recent COVID-19 diagnosis has only made that issue more salient.
The two candidates also jockeyed for position in their respective parties; both are widely seen as future presidential candidates, whatever the outcome of November's contest.
Biden leads Trump in national opinion polls and has an advantage of 12 percentage points in the latest Reuters/Ipsos survey of likely voters.
 

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Trump says he will not do virtual debate with Biden
In this combination image of two photos showing both President Donald Trump, left, and former Vice President Joe Biden during the first presidential debate Tuesday, Sept. 29, 2020, at Case Western University and Cleveland Clinic, in Cleveland, Ohio. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)
08 Oct 2020 07:55PM (Updated: 08 Oct 2020 08:26PM)
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WASHINGTON: US President Donald Trump said on Thursday (Oct 8) he would not participate in a debate with Democrat Joe Biden under a new format announced by the debates commission in which each candidate would appear at remote locations.
In an interview with Fox Business Network's Maria Bartiromo, Trump said the new virtual format announced by the Commission on Presidential Debates was "not acceptable" to him.

"I'm not going to do a virtual debate," he said.
Trump added that he was well enough to hold campaign rallies and that he did not think he was contagious.
The second presidential debate was scheduled on Oct 15 in Miami.
After the president's diagnosis of COVID-19, the plan was for the candidates to “participate from separate remote locations”, while the participants and moderator Steve Scullyremain in Miami, the commission said.

It added the decision was made "to protect the health and safety of all involved."
WATCH: Mike Pence, Kamala Harris clash over Trump's coronavirus record at US vice presidential debate



Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden speaks to members of the media as he leaves the Queen Theater in Wilmington, Del., Wednesday, Oct. 7, 2020. (AP Photo/Andrew Harnik)

Trump was diagnosed with the coronavirus a week ago and had said he looked forward to debating Biden on stage in Miami, saying, “It will be great!”
Biden, for his part, said he and Trump “shouldn’t have a debate” as long as the president remains COVID-19 positive.
Biden told reporters in Pennsylvania earlier that he was “looking forward to being able to debate him” but said “we’re going to have to follow very strict guidelines”.
After the first debate, there were concerns about whether Trump had infected Biden and moderator Chris Wallace. Biden has tested negative.
 

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LOL Biden live debate already cheated, virtual debate definitely double up on the cheating.

Biden using Trump's Covid experience as an excuse to get away from the debate. :biggrin:
 

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LOL Biden live debate already cheated, virtual debate definitely double up on the cheating.

Biden using Trump's Covid experience as an excuse to get away from the debate. :biggrin:

proudboys saying biden had a hidden mike did not age well. got discredited unfortunately. I would not bandy with the Proudboys too much, on twitter they are now gays.

the October surprise is the Republicans crying the party is getting trashed thanks to bioterror in chief Trump.

he's going down in a steaming pile of trash and taking the Republican party with it. How sad

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