Letter to Minister George Yeo

[Ramseth]

So all the cock and bull about having a world class government will attract investments and retain companies is fake?

Draft reply from George:

I'm puzzled that such a question is directed at MFA again. I've already in the previous correspondence made it abundantly clear that such a question should be directed at MTI. MFA deals with foreign relations, not foreign investments. Thanks. Yours.

 

[kojakbt]

My reply to him on his facebook:

Dear Minister George Yeo,

Thank you for your reply.

With regard to your comment about companies outsourcing their work to countries outside of Singapore, it is not true to say that all work can be outsourced easily. There are many services which are hard or impossible to outsource such as social services, transportation, medical services, schools, restaurants, etc.

Also, the experiences of some of the companies in the west which outsourced their work to 3rd world countries were pretty mixed. A Deloitte survey revealed that 70% of large companies in US had dismal experiences with outsourcing projects. See: http://www.google.com.sg/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=outsourcing+woes&meta=&aq=o&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Personally, I don't have a problem if we are bringing in foreigners with real talents that Singapore lacks. But from the ground, I see that many employers are recruiting foreigners for the only reason that they are cheaper. Our low labour productivity in the last few years should give you an idea of what's going on underneath. Hence, you can't blame the widespread insecurity of our Singaporean PMETs.

Best rgds

Kojakbt

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

I don't think you have fucking clue about what you are talking about :oIo:

Ask you to name the countries and I suspect you will rattle off a string of socialist countries, almost bordering on communist :oIo:

You spew out communist bullshit and say you are capitalist? :oIo:

Correction. People like me are only interested in gaining wealth, period. Why would I care if it is from others' misery?

You idiotic pappydog! Don't you know that your PAP itself has socialist leanings!

What a pathetic idiot you are. I pity your family for having to have someone like you in the house. Your masters are the ones that love communism. You have shown that you know very little about politics, economics or how societies develop and nurture themselves.

All you have done is to hit out at the APs and support your masters. But each time you do so, you only help the APs cause because it is apparent that only idiots with little morals like you support the PAP.

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

My reply to him on his facebook:

Dear Minister George Yeo,

Thank you for your reply.

...............

Best rgds

Kojakbt

You have wasted your opportunity!

Ask him why were jobs in Singapore being used as pat of the FTA? CAN'T YOU DO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

99% of Singaporeans don't give a damn about your bloody foreign stats. Wake up your bloody idea KOJAKBT!

At least 70% of Singaporeans need to know if the PAP regime has indeed signed away jobs as part of an FTA. How many jobs? With which country? Which industry?

Then and only then do you supply data on the idiocy of including jobs as part of an FTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[coolguy]

George Yeo to Kojakbt :

Dear Kojabt,
I understand and sympathize with the PMETS the plight that they are facing.
Which is why our trade union chef is constantly pushing for older workers to go for skills upgrading programme
or alternative career matching exercise in order to prepare them for the more challenging environment that lies ahead.
Please be assured that our trade union are well aware of the situation and we are doing our uptmost to help our local citizens in need.

 

[kojakbt]

You have wasted your opportunity!

Ask him why were jobs in Singapore being used as pat of the FTA? CAN'T YOU DO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

99% of Singaporeans don't give a damn about your bloody foreign stats. Wake up your bloody idea KOJAKBT!

At least 70% of Singaporeans need to know if the PAP regime has indeed signed away jobs as part of an FTA. How many jobs? With which country? Which industry?

Then and only then do you supply data on the idiocy of including jobs as part of an FTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bro, you can also go and ask him on his facebook. In fact, I would urge all of you to post on his facebook. We should all let him know that most Singaporeans are not too happy with PAP policies. Of course lah, pls ask nicely. Don’t scold or spew vulgarities

 

[kojakbt]

George Yeo to Kojakbt :

Dear Kojabt,
I understand and sympathize with the PMETS the plight that they are facing.
Which is why our trade union chef is constantly pushing for older workers to go for skills upgrading programme
or alternative career matching exercise in order to prepare them for the more challenging environment that lies ahead.
Please be assured that our trade union are well aware of the situation and we are doing our uptmost to help our local citizens in need.

HAHAHAH! in fact, your upgrading answer is often used. Lim Suay Suay always tells Singaporeans that...

 

[cass888]

You idiotic pappydog! Don't you know that your PAP itself has socialist leanings!

Leanings or no leanings, their policies support capitalism.

No point wasting time with you. Even capitalist policies you label as communism, shows how ignorant you are. Now I understand why we need to bring in FTs - to make up for imbeciles like you.

 

[kojakbt]

Posted another letter on his facebook:

Dear Minister George Yeo,

In your FTA negotiation with India, you might want to take note of this point. According to the Times of India, a report from the NASSCOM-Mckinsey study revealed that only 10% of India's fresh graduates and 25% of its MBA and engineering graduates are actually employable:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...nemployable-graduates/articleshow/6105359.cms

I do not know if the large number of graduates from India currently working in Singapore are considered of "employable" quality by NASSCOM-Mckinsey's standard or not. Certainly, poor quality foreign PMETs flooding Singapore (please take note that currently, MOM does not impose any foreign quota on jobs with $2500 and above) can only result in salary stagnation for all the Singaporean PMETs.


Yours sincerely,

Kojakbt

 

[silverfox@]

I wonder when you sent in letters to these ministers, do you actually use your real name?

Letters to straits times, I ever wrote in and the requirement is name, ic, address and tel num. Requirement not fulfilled they don't publish.

 

[kojakbt]

George Yeo has replied again:

George Yeo I'm sure MTI takes all this into account in FTA negotiations. Even if jobs cannot be outsourced, investors can go elsewhere. We have also to take into account the interest of Singaporeans as consumers of services.


Bros, can you help to interpret his last line:


"We have also to take into account the interest of Singaporeans as consumers of services"?


What does it mean? Does he mean that in order to take care of the interest of Singaporeans as consumers of services, PAP Govt needs to import more Indian FTs to service us? His last sentence really puzzles me...

 

[Ramseth]

George Yeo has replied again:

George Yeo I'm sure MTI takes all this into account in FTA negotiations. Even if jobs cannot be outsourced, investors can go elsewhere. We have also to take into account the interest of Singaporeans as consumers of services.


Bros, can you help to interpret his last line:


"We have also to take into account the interest of Singaporeans as consumers of services"?


What does it mean? Does he mean that in order to take care of the interest of Singaporeans as consumers of services, PAP Govt needs to import more Indian FTs to service us? His last sentence really puzzles me...

His point is clear. Only you still look blur. Beating around the bush with semantics, he's saying that he's sure that MTI know what they're considering and doing, but exactly what isn't under his purview. Straight to the point he's asking you, why keep bothering him? Go ask MTI!

 

[coolguy]

If sinkies cannot find job, then they will have to consumed themselves.
In the end, instead of sinkies being the consumer,
they will be slowly consumed by the foreigners taking over their jobs.
Of course georgie yeo would not tell you this, cos' it is none of his business.

 

[kojakbt]

His point is clear. Only you still look blur. Beating around the bush with semantics, he's saying that he's sure that MTI know what they're considering and doing, but exactly what isn't under his purview. Straight to the point he's asking you, why keep bothering him? Go ask MTI!

Ok fine. It's under MTI. Still, can I ask you, what does he mean by:

"We have also to take into account the interest of Singaporeans as consumers of services"?

 

[Ramseth]

Ok fine. It's under MTI. Still, can I ask you, what does he mean by:

"We have also to take into account the interest of Singaporeans as consumers of services"?

It's also clear, isn't it? It means the general cost of living have to be considered. Cost of labour affects the cost of amenities and necessities.

 

[cass888]

Ok fine. It's under MTI. Still, can I ask you, what does he mean by:

"We have also to take into account the interest of Singaporeans as consumers of services"?

Why the fuss? General Yeo was MTI at the USSFTA negotiation

 

[kojakbt]

It's also clear, isn't it? It means the general cost of living have to be considered. Cost of labour affects the cost of amenities and necessities.

Can I then argue this way:


In most of the other 1st world countries, they do not rely on cheap labour to power their service sector. I don't think that the interest of their citizens as consumers of services has been undermined in anyway...


How about this?
(Bros, feel free to comment... I feel like nailing him down...)

 

[annexa]

George Yeo to Kojakbt :

Dear Kojabt,
I understand and sympathize with the PMETS the plight that they are facing.
Which is why our trade union chef is constantly pushing for older workers to go for skills upgrading programme
or alternative career matching exercise in order to prepare them for the more challenging environment that lies ahead.
Please be assured that our trade union are well aware of the situation and we are doing our uptmost to help our local citizens in need.

Bro can you ask Yeo why PMET = OLD people to him? Fresh grads and 20-40s not qualify as PMETs or not his concern?

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

It's also clear, isn't it? It means the general cost of living have to be considered. Cost of labour affects the cost of amenities and necessities.

If lower costs are passed on to consumers then perhaps there may be ONE good reason to employ cheap labour BUT there are countless other good reasons against importing cheap foreign labour.

Additionally, the increasing inflation rate in Singapore does not support George Yeo's argument at all.

 

[Ramseth]

If lower costs are passed on to consumers then perhaps there may be ONE good reason to employ cheap labour BUT there are countless other good reasons against importing cheap foreign labour.

Additionally, the increasing inflation rate in Singapore does not support George Yeo's argument at all.

I feel it doesn't too. The government policies are depressing middle class wages while increasing inflation despite of lower cost labour.