Lack of discipline in schools is MOE's own undoing

[Confuseous]

So what exactly has happened over the years and decades? Why are students not respecting authority anymore? Arguments with teachers are common. Disrespect for school authority too. Headmasters, principals are not feared anymore, let alone teachers.

I recall some years back, a principal of over twenty years' service, was sacked because he disciplined a girl by hitting her with a school text book. That was his first and only misdemeanour. MOE felt that his action warranted his removal, yet hardly anything was reported about the girl's lack of discipline, which was the reason why she had to face the principal in the first place.

Now wasn't that case an example for many ill-discipline students, as well as their over protective parents to cite, whenever a student is called to face punishment?

Today, it's a mayhem in schools. No shouting at students. No using harsh words. No banging of the table to quieten the class. If the teacher cannot get the class to be quiet, it is because he/she is not able to control the class. Bad class management. All the bad behaviour on the part of the students is because of the teacher's incompetence, not because of student's ill-discipline, or because their parents never taught them about discipline and respect for school authority.

- http://wherebearsroamfree.blogspot.sg/2012/09/lack-of-discipline-in-schools-is-moes.html

 

[Kinana]

You are absolutely correct. They have overdone with all that liberalism. It cause high turnover of teachers, big mistake.
However, not all schools are like that. Schools are smarter nowadays.

I advocate harsh punishment for students who are rude. Send them for heavy detention(1 week at least, two hours daily), heavy n boring work during detention(copy pages of National Geographic magazine), no need to shout and scream. After just one week sure kwai kwai after that. Guaranteed.

 

[blur sotong]

heavy n boring work during detention(copy pages of National Geographic magazine)

How does copy pages of National Geographic magazine help to improve discipline in schools?

 

[po2wq]

... However, not all schools are like that. Schools are smarter nowadays ...

ya, man! ... nowadays, skools oso got blain 1 ...

... Send them for heavy detention(1 week at least, two hours daily), heavy n boring work during detention(copy pages of National Geographic magazine), no need to shout and scream. After just one week sure kwai kwai after that. Guaranteed.

parens wil b suing u 4 making their ah boys n ah gir stay back @ skool 2 do stoopig, meaningless wok n make their hands all painful ...

 

[Agoraphobic]

So what exactly has happened over the years and decades? Why are students not respecting authority anymore? Arguments with teachers are common. Disrespect for school authority too. Headmasters, principals are not feared anymore, let alone teachers. .....................

Not a big concern. It is like that in schools all over the world. People are no longer isolated in their own little world. They are exposed. With kids learning how to speak up for themselves, being more expresssive, people no longer believe in harsh punishment, having an attitude is considered "cool" and so on - the authorities will just have to accept they no longer hold the ace. Just accept that the times have changed. Just be a fair and just human being - the kids will respond accordingly.

BTW, I was a student during the early seventies and there were just as many (in fact more) kids who resorted to violence to settle problems. I had classmates carrying knives to school (I had a nunchak, but never used it,- it would not have worked), teachers punching students (and vice versa). For me, any teacher that mistreated me, I'd vandalise his car.

Cheers!

 

[Kinana]

How does copy pages of National Geographic magazine help to improve discipline in schools?

It's super laborious n boring, a great punishment n deterrent for rudeness, sure to work

 

[halsey02]

You are absolutely correct. They have overdone with all that liberalism. It cause high turnover of teachers, big mistake.
However, not all schools are like that. Schools are smarter nowadays.

I advocate harsh punishment for students who are rude. Send them for heavy detention(1 week at least, two hours daily), heavy n boring work during detention(copy pages of National Geographic magazine), no need to shout and scream. After just one week sure kwai kwai after that. Guaranteed.

National Geographic...you kidding! what sort of punishment is that? write 500 lines of " I must behave", rude...make that person, stand in front of the school porch in the morning for 1 hour, "bow & greet every one who appear"...this will teach that person not to be rude...

 

[Kinana]

ya, man! ... nowadays, skools oso got blain 1 ...


parens wil b suing u 4 making their ah boys n ah gir stay back @ skool 2 do stoopig, meaningless wok n make their hands all painful ...

School detention is not an offence. You ever attended school in Singapore before?

 

[blur sotong]

It's super laborious n boring, a great punishment n deterrent for rudeness, sure to work

Happened to you before?

Such punishment and deterrent generally build more resentment, leading to even more rude behaviour.

 

[Kinana]

Happened to you before?

Such punishment and deterrent generally build more resentment, leading to even more rude behaviour.

Cutting hair also resentment, then don't cut la, let hair gro la.

 

[mscitw]

See one middle aged joker misbehaving like a baboon in the heat, probably hailing the the useless 1960s generation. That probably explain why the present screw up in MoE's schools.

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[LeMans2011]

A good punishment would be making errant students watch a video of Kee Chiu's speech.

 

[zeddy]

I advocate harsh punishment for students who are rude. Send them for heavy detention(1 week at least, two hours daily), heavy n boring work during detention(copy pages of National Geographic magazine), no need to shout and scream. After just one week sure kwai kwai after that. Guaranteed.

I suggest that these errant students draw a potrait of Lee Wei Ling during their 2 hr detention class..

I bet you, these students will change for the better and they'll never ever want to step into a detention class again.. MOE should consider my suggestion seriously.. My idea is worth implementing..

 

[laksaboy]

I have heard of really exotic forms of punishments parents and teachers mete out to ill-disciplined kids in the good old days.

1) Rub chilli onto eyes.
2) Use a very thin rotan that has been coated with salt and oil, and whip the same spot to open up the skin.
3) Twisting of ear.
4) Make the kid go without food.
5) Use laundry clips to clip the fingers, earlobes and nose.
6) Walk around the school while wearing a placard scribbled with an insulting message.
7) Stand on the table.
8) Solitary confinement inside the toilet overnight.
9) Hard smack on the head with a chalkboard duster.
10) Stand outside the classroom holding two full buckets of water.

 

[bushtucker]

whatever happened to the metre-long thick wooden ruler which our ol' school teachers used on our palms and knuckles?? painful but effective! :*:

 

[blur sotong]

Cutting hair also resentment, then don't cut la, let hair gro la.

Cutting hair itself is not resentment. It is a matter of keeping tidy and looking good.

Copying pages of National Geography does not promote anything else other than resentment.

Hey, you have not answered my question: "Happened to you before?"

 

[Kinana]

Cutting hair itself is not resentment. It is a matter of keeping tidy and looking good.

Copying pages of National Geography does not promote anything else other than resentment.

Hey, you have not answered my question: "Happened to you before?"

The haircut obviously caused resentment. That's why yu have police report in blowout. Since there is resentment don't cut hair la

 

[blur sotong]

Cutting hair also resentment, then don't cut la, let hair gro la.

Cutting hair itself is not resentment. It is a matter of keeping tidy and looking good.

Copying pages of National Geography does not promote anything else other than resentment.

Hey, you have not answered my question: "Happened to you before?"

The haircut obviously caused resentment. That's why yu have police report in blowout. Since there is resentment don't cut hair la

We are talking about cutting hair in general and suddenly you started talking about THE haircut. You are twisting here.

 

[moolightaffairs]

So what exactly has happened over the years and decades? Why are students not respecting authority anymore? Arguments with teachers are common. Disrespect for school authority too. Headmasters, principals are not feared anymore, let alone teachers.

I recall some years back, a principal of over twenty years' service, was sacked because he disciplined a girl by hitting her with a school text book. That was his first and only misdemeanour. MOE felt that his action warranted his removal, yet hardly anything was reported about the girl's lack of discipline, which was the reason why she had to face the principal in the first place.

Now wasn't that case an example for many ill-discipline students, as well as their over protective parents to cite, whenever a student is called to face punishment?

Today, it's a mayhem in schools. No shouting at students. No using harsh words. No banging of the table to quieten the class. If the teacher cannot get the class to be quiet, it is because he/she is not able to control the class. Bad class management. All the bad behaviour on the part of the students is because of the teacher's incompetence, not because of student's ill-discipline, or because their parents never taught them about discipline and respect for school authority.

- http://wherebearsroamfree.blogspot.sg/2012/09/lack-of-discipline-in-schools-is-moes.html

he was "transferred" immediately after the incident and later "resigned" on his own accord.

 

[Sir_Fcuk]

A good punishment would be making errant students watch a video of Kee Chiu's speech.

If that doesn't work, they can watch Kee Chiu's dick